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Old 02-03-2013, 07:39 PM   #51
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I believe that it was more or a "therapy session" in an act of charity. CK donated his time to help veterans deal with PTSD, part of which is returning to a range and hunting wildlife. While it may seem backwards it has shown results that it helps deal with and PTSD and getting vets back to a normal, mentally healthy life.
The reports state it was a charity event on behalf of his business, but it seems no one was there as the bodies were found at 5 by a hunting guide who had arrived.
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Your chances of dying are 100%. Doesn't matter if it is by gun, knife, cancer, overdose, ancient alien...
haha love that logic. Shit happens.... Then you die
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Britain did it... I am sure we can.
You're assuming we even want to, which we don't. That aside you will have a lot more resistance to anything like that here, both politically and otherwise.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:19 PM   #54
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This is just more evidence that the problem isn't guns, but mental illness in general.
So, what do you think we should do with people who believe there's an invisible man who lives in the clouds who can hear their thoughts?
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:32 PM   #55
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They were on an exclusive range. Not a public range. It could very well mean there weren't many people there at all.
They were there. But I'm sure the restrictive gun laws of the state kept them unarmed and so unable to defend themselves. It's a tragedy that they just didn't have enough guns to protect themselves.
Maybe we should look into legalizing RPGs so this sort of thing never happens again.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:16 AM   #56
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Britain did it... I am sure we can.
We couldn't, and we don't want to. Better just get used to guns existing in the hands of civilians because you are never going to an America without them there.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:18 AM   #57
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but seems like the gunman was not deterred by very well armed individuals at the gun range.
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I thought the only thing that could stop a bad person with a gun was a good person with a gun? WTF gun nuts?
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They were there. But I'm sure the restrictive gun laws of the state kept them unarmed and so unable to defend themselves. It's a tragedy that they just didn't have enough guns to protect themselves.
Three blind mice, and three disgusting examples of human.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:39 AM   #58
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He killed people in Iraq, so:

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You are an idiot.
Yes, he is, but he has friends, other scumbags celebrating the death of a hero that was helping people, because his political views were different than theirs.

http://www.examiner.com/article/libe...eal-chris-kyle

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Chris Kyle, a former Navy SEAL and author of "American Sniper," was murdered Saturday afternoon at a gun range 53 miles outside Fort Worth, Tex. While many in the country mourned his loss, Twitchy reported Sunday that a number of anti-gun liberals on Twitter mocked and celebrated his murder.

"I am absolutely against guns being used for any reason, but in the matter of Chris Kyle, I'd have to say it was poetic justice," one person wrote.

"All u hypocrites can miss me with the Chris Kyle American Sniper sympathy bulls**t, I call his death karma. Feel for his family not him," said another user on Twitter.

"Chris Kyle was killed at a gun how ironic lol live by the gun die by the gun now I really believe he had it coming to him," said "Patricia."

"[O]h the irony! lol," added "GrantT."

A number of Twitter users called his murder "karma," while many, like "GrantT," apparently thought Kyle's murder was something to laugh about.

"LOL to the kid who compared Chris Kyle's death to the movie Shootout," said "Sean Flynn."
What's with the progressive liberals always wishing death on their political opposites? So much for working together to make the world a better place eh?
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Yes, he is, but he has friends, other scumbags celebrating the death of a hero that was helping people, because his political views were different than theirs.

http://www.examiner.com/article/libe...eal-chris-kyle



What's with the progressive liberals always wishing death on their political opposites? So much for working together to make the world a better place eh?
Even in this forum you have posters that are all but stroking themselves over high profile gun deaths. They feel it's something that aids their political causes so they're happy about them.
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The guy was shot and killed by someone who suffered from mental illness and used a handgun. He was killed while trying to help this person by rendering emotional support to a ex-fellow solider. But hey I guess that every murder that involves a firearm no matter the circumstances furthers the left wing agenda on "Assault Weapons" and magazines greater than 10 rounds even though none of these items were involved in this situation.
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You gotta be reallllllly careful if you're going down this road. I do agree with you, however I've seen how retarded our government is and they'll fuck it up. I've personally been to PTSD counseling twice according to the government. Because something happened? No, its actually 100% mandatory when you get back from a deployment.
Yeah, it's mandatory. But some people really do need it. If this guy could not figure out that his buddy was unstable then his death was his own fault.
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Yeah, it's mandatory. But some people really do need it. If this guy could not figure out that his buddy was unstable then his death was his own fault.
My point is that soldiers are already opting against any additional counseling for fear of being mentally flagged, which is really bad.
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He killed people in Iraq, so:

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People were killed in a war, by a SEAL? That's crazy talk. STFU
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Old 02-04-2013, 02:49 AM   #65
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Kind of hard to shoot people in the back if you don't have a gun.
And there would be no world hunger or poverty and everyone would live in harmony....
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Yes, he is, but he has friends, other scumbags celebrating the death of a hero that was helping people, because his political views were different than theirs.

http://www.examiner.com/article/libe...eal-chris-kyle



What's with the progressive liberals always wishing death on their political opposites? So much for working together to make the world a better place eh?
He killed 255 people then bragged about it in a book. He took 255 lives most of them unsuspecting victims thousand yards away. To some he is a hero because he killed 255 evil people. To 255 families he was a monster for taking their son/dad/mother/grandpa or whatever away then made money out of it as well. He didn't show remorse and treated it as some job.

Now who is the evil one? How does one measure evil? Is there such a thing as a universal 'index' according to which deeds of evil can be judged? If we, for example, take the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as the final arbiter of what is evil and what is not, how could we then judge Zimbabwe as being more evil than, for example, China and Saudi Arabia – two countries enjoying marvelous ties with the West despite their abysmal human rights records. Is this blatant hypocrisy, or just the obligatory Real Politic of individual nations surviving in a cynical world where might (financial, military, etc) is right?
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The sniper is a judicious and as precise a killer that there is in this world. Despite that, his violence was still reflected back upon himself. It finds you in the end and can ruin you in all sorts of ways...

I wonder how many times he called his friend a pussy because he was having anxiety attacks at the gun range. Kyle basically put his own head between the jaws of a gator and spit in its mouth.

Its as if gun nuts are trying to destroy their own gun ownership. Just give them some rope says the politician. They will implode, but what is amazing is how fast its happening.
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Crazy people must be taught to off themselves rather than innocent people.
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The sniper is a judicious and as precise a killer that there is in this world. Despite that, his violence was still reflected back upon himself. It finds you in the end and can ruin you in all sorts of ways...

I wonder how many times he called his friend a pussy because he was having anxiety attacks at the gun range. Kyle basically put his own head between the jaws of a gator and spit in its mouth.

Its as if gun nuts are trying to destroy their own gun ownership. Just give them some rope says the politician. They will implode, but what is amazing is how fast its happening.
Batshit crazy
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He killed 255 people then bragged about it in a book. He took 255 lives most of them unsuspecting victims thousand yards away. To some he is a hero because he killed 255 evil people. To 255 families he was a monster for taking their son/dad/mother/grandpa or whatever away then made money out of it as well. He didn't show remorse and treated it as some job.

Now who is the evil one? How does one measure evil? Is there such a thing as a universal 'index' according to which deeds of evil can be judged? If we, for example, take the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as the final arbiter of what is evil and what is not, how could we then judge Zimbabwe as being more evil than, for example, China and Saudi Arabia two countries enjoying marvelous ties with the West despite their abysmal human rights records. Is this blatant hypocrisy, or just the obligatory Real Politic of individual nations surviving in a cynical world where might (financial, military, etc) is right?
Depends on your pov....snipers save lives too. The man was performing what he was trained to do.
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My point is that soldiers are already opting against any additional counseling for fear of being mentally flagged, which is really bad.
The stigma placed on mental health issues in this country is truly unfortunate; and even more so for military personnel where the stigma is worse and the need greater. The military does a fairly god job at inadvertently training it's members to avoid health care (mental and physical).
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I think the answer is ever more clear, we need a complete disarmament.

Criminals can probably hang onto their guns and avoid the BATF for a max of 5-10 years, in that time I envision probably only 10,000 related gun deaths due to criminals avoiding gun collection. 10,000 deaths in 10 years and then essentially no murders afterwards is a small price to pay for our future.

America and the constitution for too long has been a self-serving document meant to protect personal liberty but at great cost to noble national goals. I think its time we together as Americans lift off the burdensome yoke of personal liberty and embrace the collective goals that our leaders have challenged us with accomplishing.

Who is with me?
I would love to hear the details of this great plan you have
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Britain did it... I am sure we can.
Britain had no where near the amount of guns we have both leagally owned and the bigger point the illegally owned ones.

There are probably millions of illegal guns on the streets. Even when we have guns for cash programs they rarely even make a dent in that number. What's your plan for getting those off the street?
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I think the answer is ever more clear, we need a complete disarmament.

Criminals can probably hang onto their guns and avoid the BATF for a max of 5-10 years, in that time I envision probably only 10,000 related gun deaths due to criminals avoiding gun collection. 10,000 deaths in 10 years and then essentially no murders afterwards is a small price to pay for our future.

America and the constitution for too long has been a self-serving document meant to protect personal liberty but at great cost to noble national goals. I think its time we together as Americans lift off the burdensome yoke of personal liberty and embrace the collective goals that our leaders have challenged us with accomplishing.

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There are nearly that many a year with illegal guns right now. Imagine that number after the free for all the criminals will have knowing there is no chance of retaliation from armed citizens.
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He killed 255 people then bragged about it in a book. He took 255 lives most of them unsuspecting victims thousand yards away. To some he is a hero because he killed 255 evil people. To 255 families he was a monster for taking their son/dad/mother/grandpa or whatever away then made money out of it as well. He didn't show remorse and treated it as some job.

Now who is the evil one? How does one measure evil? Is there such a thing as a universal 'index' according to which deeds of evil can be judged? If we, for example, take the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as the final arbiter of what is evil and what is not, how could we then judge Zimbabwe as being more evil than, for example, China and Saudi Arabia two countries enjoying marvelous ties with the West despite their abysmal human rights records. Is this blatant hypocrisy, or just the obligatory Real Politic of individual nations surviving in a cynical world where might (financial, military, etc) is right?
He was a solider fighting in a War that or elected politicians decided needed to be conducted. He was doing his job. A job that his country sent him to do. Did you even read his book? He didn't brag about killing people. However he didn't show remorse over killing people that where out to kill US Soldiers. He longest sniper shot over 2100 yards against a guy who was going to fire a RPG at a US Military convoy. He gave us a insight into his world and showed us what we ask or military to do when we send them overseas to fight for this country.
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