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Old 01-13-2013, 04:57 PM   #26
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The Pentium is not a gaming CPU. Quad core should be the minimum for new gaming builds these days.
It sure is if you're building a $400 machine. You can't blow half the budget on an i5 and expect to come out with a reasonable machine.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:57 PM   #27
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CPU: Intel Pentium G645 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($67.28 @ TigerDirect)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $412.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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This is much better! I would get 2x4GB so that you can run dual-channel memory though.
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Old 01-14-2013, 03:37 PM   #28
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I could play AOE2 just fine on my A64 and Pentium III-era celeron(!). If you're going to play any games beyond that you're computer will bottleneck on you and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:13 PM   #29
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what is bottleneck

@mfenn: I got 1 slot because if I upgrade my ram later to the max I would need 4x8GB
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:24 PM   #30
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Get a B75 board. Or any x7x, rather than x6x. The 2nd digit is key. That gets you usb 3 for sure.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:09 PM   #31
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what is bottleneck

@mfenn: I got 1 slot because if I upgrade my ram later to the max I would need 4x8GB
What is a bottleneck in general or what is the bottleneck in that PC?
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@mfenn please explain both
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:13 PM   #33
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A bottleneck is when your performance is limited specifically by one part. For example, if your CPU was being pushed at 100% but your GPU was only at 50% of it's capacity, your performance is limited by the CPU and you have a CPU bottleneck. I can't really point out where the bottleneck in your computer is, but it's usually the GPU in gaming.

As for the 2x4GB vs 1x8GB debate, a 2x4GB array will be faster because the computer can utilize 2 channels rather than only 1 to move data in and out of the RAM. Additionally, you are unlikely to need more than 16GB memory within the next 5 years (the longest I personally would go without upgrading) and would need to get a new operating system (Windows 7/8 Home Premium is artificially limited to 16GB; You would need Win7/8 Pro).
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:07 PM   #34
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A bottleneck is when your performance is limited specifically by one part. For example, if your CPU was being pushed at 100% but your GPU was only at 50% of it's capacity, your performance is limited by the CPU and you have a CPU bottleneck. I can't really point out where the bottleneck in your computer is, but it's usually the GPU in gaming.
Good explanation, thanks!

OP, the PC you have specced out is reasonably balanced, which is of course the goal. In high resolution gaming, the GTX 650 will be the bottleneck. In computationally intensive tasks such as video encoding, the CPU will be the bottleneck. In general web surfing and such, it should be pretty snappy, but the HDD will be the bottleneck.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:33 AM   #35
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@mfenn and sleeping forest: Your explanations are very good.
As about the bottleneck the most challenging title I currently have is Doom3.I have a friend who can run it quite well with integrated graphics. I may play a little more challenging title and according to my needs I think the GPU is fine it can last me for 2-3 years without needing to upgrade
@sleeping forest: Thanks I understood the difference between 2x4 GB and 8x1 GB I would be using 2x4 GB
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:37 PM   #36
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I can play CoD/AoE III perfectly on my P8600 based Thinkpad X200 with Intel 4500MHD graphics.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:50 PM   #37
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Doom 3 is super old, so I imagine that pretty much anything modern can run it perfectly.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:55 PM   #38
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works for me too.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:46 AM   #39
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Thanks everyone so can I final this part list
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