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Old 01-23-2013, 03:43 PM   #51
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I might be remembering incorrectly, but I don't think it was the Xel'Naga coming to rip shit back up? Wasn't it a zerg/protoss hybrid that was ripping shit up? SC2 completely ignored the story setup from Samir Duran (http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Samir_Duran). I figure his group is somehow responsible for the zerg/toss hybrid.
As I recall Zeretul mentioned something about "the fallen one" who "didn't ascend with the other gods" (Xel'Naga) So the assumption is Duran is the last Xel Naga left and he's hell bent on conquering the galaxy (and made the hybrids to do that).
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:50 PM   #52
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I might be remembering incorrectly, but I don't think it was the Xel'Naga coming to rip shit back up? Wasn't it a zerg/protoss hybrid that was ripping shit up? SC2 completely ignored the story setup from Samir Duran (http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Samir_Duran). I figure his group is somehow responsible for the zerg/toss hybrid.
You are right. The Dark Void was indeed protoss/zerg hybrid. I forgot about fighting those hybrid protoss dudes with zerg tentacles.

SC2's story still pisses me off to no end. SC1 had so much exciting plot, drive, and great side characters.

SC2 pissed on all of them, even changed Raynor to a pretty boy from a bald guy.
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:14 PM   #53
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You are right. The Dark Void was indeed protoss/zerg hybrid. I forgot about fighting those hybrid protoss dudes with zerg tentacles.

SC2's story still pisses me off to no end. SC1 had so much exciting plot, drive, and great side characters.

SC2 pissed on all of them, even changed Raynor to a pretty boy from a bald guy.
I didn't think SC2's story was that bad. It wasn't as good as SC1, but still wasn't awful. That and we don't know the whole story yet due to it being a 3 part series.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:23 PM   #54
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Thank you very much, kind sir, for taking the time to write a reminder of the events I really appreciate, pretty much allows me not to have to re-play SC1, SC1:BW and SC2:WoL to get it clear again. And, well, I agree... the story of StarCraft from the original up to WoL isn't exactly... hmmm... well, let's say it's not exactly deep or very detailed, to say the least (it's enjoyable enough I guess, entertaining would be the proper word, but certainly not deep or complex).

And, of course, Xel'Naga, completely forgot about that part. It's indeed a rehashed formula, in the veins of people hating each others ending up fighting together against a "common enemy" because it came out of the blue and yeah... reminds me a bit of the Dark Spawn in DAO (I.E. people hating each others and oh, suddenly them undead raping stuff around so hey let's appreciate each others long enough so we can fight those things). To be honest though story-telling has never been Blizzard's best capabilities, even many years ago... I mean SC1's story might be more cohesive but still it's no Planescape: Torment nor Baldur's Gate 2 (nor was it the goal to be similar to those either in terms of story-telling). As long as the game-play is there I guess it'll suffice. In fact Diablo 3's "story" is probably the worst Blizzard came up with so far for any of their games (didn't have to be complex but it didn't have to suck either).

So, Zerg, Protoss and Terran might end up together in the third and finale against Xel'Naga... I see. Hopefully all three of them will be able to look at each others on the battlefield without too much tension... can't wait to see that happen (and it's going to feel strange on-screen even if the story demands it).

And about the trailer again, yeah, Tarsonis, might be it and good obversation about the statue, didn't realize it was that of Mengsk. So indeed it fits with Kerrigan's so called "vengeance" in the trailer, I was wondering what vengeance she was referring to, but now I just recalled the CGI scene from WoL (or it was a teaser? can't remember) in which she's surrounded by Zerg (before being "abducted" by them) and just "let it happen" in the end, realizing that she's been left there to die. So in Heart of the Swarm she's probably going to want to retake control of some Zerg to specifically go against Mengsk but... why taking control of Zergs for that... that's the part that bugs me a bit, she could stay with Raynor and go in with squads of Terran marines. But I guess that her taking control of Zerg again will help in the third game when it's time to fight Xel'Naga trolls.

Also, Xel'Naga should play Mass Effect 3, learning the hard way how the created always rebel against the creator.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:04 PM   #55
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already pre ordered. Very excited for the campaign.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:13 AM   #56
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To be honest though story-telling has never been Blizzard's best capabilities, even many years ago... I mean SC1's story might be more cohesive but still it's no Planescape: Torment nor Baldur's Gate 2 (nor was it the goal to be similar to those either in terms of story-telling). As long as the game-play is there I guess it'll suffice. In fact Diablo 3's "story" is probably the worst Blizzard came up with so far for any of their games (didn't have to be complex but it didn't have to suck either)
i liked D1, SC1 and WC3 stories

sure, WC3 had this "common enemy" cheese...but the characters were pure awesome....
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:38 PM   #57
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After watching the video, it looks like they are adding units? Will it be like that for every expansion?
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:40 PM   #58
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...What on earth is she talking to at 0:30?
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...What on earth is she talking to at 0:30?
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After watching the video, it looks like they are adding units? Will it be like that for every expansion?
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wait, since when did kerrigan become black? I always thought she was a white chic.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:09 PM   #62
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She was a white chick, and still is. The magic macguffin in Wings of Liberty didn't manage to fix her hair though.
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She was a white chick, and still is. The magic macguffin in Wings of Liberty didn't manage to fix her hair though.
i dunno.... she looks at least Caribbean or mixed. Maybe they're trying to appeal to more hispanics? They're a growing demographic.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:11 PM   #64
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i dunno.... she looks at least Caribbean or mixed. Maybe they're trying to appeal to more hispanics? They're a growing demographic.

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I can see what you mean. They made her...tanner? Darker? And her cockroach hair now looks more like dreds.

Did anyone else feel it was kind of weird to make Kerrigan a damsel in distress in WoL? I hope HotS helps change that.
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I think that's mostly differences between the lighting conditions and rendering engines though. She's certainly a couple of shades lighter then Raynor in the WoL ending cutscene.

That said, a decade or two on Char would reasonably give even an Irish chick a bit of a tan.


I didn't think the things they did with her were any weirder then what they did with the rest of the cast. The only real damsel in distress aspect was her telepathically calling for help - but she did exactly that in Starcraft 1. It's not really new.
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I can see what you mean. They made her...tanner? Darker? And her cockroach hair now looks more like dreds.

Did anyone else feel it was kind of weird to make Kerrigan a damsel in distress in WoL? I hope HotS helps change that.
WoL made her stupider, adjusted her appearance from a tough and scrappy looking character to a generic hot babe, and inexplicably even tried to sexualize her infested form with "high heel" extrusions that she just happened to evolve, etc. I think the performance of the new voice actor also reflected these changes.

Some dread tentacle hair is not a big deal compared to that.
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The only real damsel in distress aspect was her telepathically calling for help - but she did exactly that in Starcraft 1. It's not really new.
What about the fact that she had to rely on the stereotypical man, Raynor, to 'save' her. And the game ends with her being carried into the sunset like a powerless baby in his arms? And naked no less.
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Newegg offering $10 off on pre-orders for this if anyone is looking to get in on a small deal.
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Newegg offering $10 off on pre-orders for this if anyone is looking to get in on a small deal.
Thanks for the heads up. Even if it doesn't end up being the absolute cheapest I've made it my policiy to support newegg whenever practical.

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don't see it. is it a lightning deal?
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don't see it. is it a lightning deal?
Yeah not seeing it either.
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don't see it. is it a lightning deal?
No it is good until 2/3/13. Just an e-mail they sent out yesterday.

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I haven't played Starcraft since the original and even then I only played through like the first... "act" of the campaign or something? But even so I thought Kerrigan was "ethnic".
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I haven't played Starcraft since the original and even then I only played through like the first... "act" of the campaign or something? But even so I thought Kerrigan was "ethnic".
Seriously? I got that she was Caucasian in the first one, and during the first couple of missions in SCII you see Raynor looking at a photo over her and she's clearly white.

Hell later on you get this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9wbhE1vBX0
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