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01-22-2013, 07:16 PM
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Renowned author: Obama wants military leaders who will fire on U.S. citizens
Renowned author: Obama wants military leaders who will fire on U.S. citizens
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On Monday, Dr. Jim Garrow, a renowned author and humanitarian who was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, sparked a firestorm of controversy when he wrote on Facebook that President Obama wants military leaders who will fire on U.S. citizens. In an exclusive interview with Examiner.com, Dr. Garrow said the man who told him this is a military hero who is known by everybody in the country.
"I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new 'litmus test' in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks," he wrote.
"The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not," the unnamed military officer reportedly said. Dr. Garrow also wrote that those who do not meet this litmus test are being removed.
On Tuesday, Dr. Garrow said that officers who know about this cannot come forward without endangering themselves and facing possible retaliation from the administration.
According to Dr. Garrow, the officer who made the allegation learned about the litmus test from the person who got him interested in military service. That person, Dr. Garrow added, was forced out for failing to meet the criteria.
Dr. Garrow said he promised to keep the officer's name from the public, adding that he stands behind what he was told regardless of the consequences.
"I would stake my full reputation on this gentleman," he said.
"If people want to throw things at me, fine," he added, calling it "an honor" to come under fire for keeping his promise to the officer.
Dr. Garrow told Examiner that there are people in the administration who are paid to "attack those who raise doubts" about anyone who criticizes the Obama administration.
As numerous sites have mentioned, Dr. Garrow is no conspiracy theorist or "random crackpot on Facebook." Not only is he the author of "The Pink Pagoda: One Man’s Quest to End Gendercide in China," he is a highly-regarded human rights activist who has rescued thousands of young girls from certain death in China and currently owns over 250 schools in that country.
Examiner's Dave Gibson said the shocking claim comes on the heels of a Washington Free Beacon report that says Marine Corps Gen. James Mattis will leave his post as Commanding General of Central Command in March, several months earlier than anticipated.
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I kinda find this hard to believe. Although if names are released then this could break open. You know the moment that any kind of gun grab it would be a blood bath. So I have to ask. What if the statement is true? Not in the sense of being literal but to find out how loyal they are? Still an odd thing to ask a soldier who enlisted to protect us am I right?
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01-22-2013, 07:24 PM
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This is the same obama that supported the Patriot Act and NDAA along with the assassination of Awlaki. I would not be surprised if he were to do this cowardly act
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01-22-2013, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Incorruptible
This is the same obama that supported the Patriot Act and NDAA along with the assassination of Awlaki. I would not be surprised if he were to do this cowardly act
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01-22-2013, 07:31 PM
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It is an odd thing to ask.
If it's true it's hideous.
I've never heard of this guy and when I google him he doesn't even have a wiki page.
What I did find is "Nomination forms are sent by the Nobel Committee to about 3000 individuals"
on wiki, so being nominated is really not that elite.
My honest conclusion at this point is that in the absence of anything from the horse's mouth (the military guy he's talking about), this claim is horse shit. Gives him free publicity for his recent book and no onus of him to ever put up or shut up because he can say he's being discreet by not releasing the name.
I am willing to stake my reputation on having impregnated one of Hollywood's A-list actresses. And trust me, you all know her. I am not going to say who, though, as I respect her privacy. But, just trust me, for serious, it happened.
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If the children or other family members will have access to the gun then they should be interrogated too.
We can also use teachers to enforce these rules, they can ask their students to be honest and if mommy and daddy are in violation of these rules.
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01-22-2013, 07:45 PM
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This is your standard Bullshit publicity stunt. A few things to point out here:
- incorruptible agrees with it
- he swears he will never release a name
- he is practically unheard of
- on the heels of the inauguration
- guns are a huge debate atm
He is trying desperately to get attention from low IQ individuals (Republicans) and will in short time publish a book.
What he is ensenuating is that President Obama will use the military to confiscate firearms.
The only General everyone knows is Powell or Petraeus, your average citizen does not know who the Joint Chiefs are and they certainly do not know McChrystal unless they have a Rolling Stone subscription.
Powell is an Obama supporter so that leaves David Petraeus. Considering he current situation I very seriously doubt he would want to do anything else to jeopardize his status (what's left) most certainly not with a no name.
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01-22-2013, 07:45 PM
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Uhhh, this isn't in his power anyway. The president cannot ask the armed forces to act within the US. The only time that's happened in the last 100 years is with the "Little Rock Nine" with the 101st escorting them on Eisenhower's order.
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01-22-2013, 07:52 PM
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And everyone in the military gets asked that, the part that says "all enemies, foreign and domestic". If there was a group of crazed liberals killing mass amounts of Republican citizens to over throw our current form of government for socialism and the police and Leo's were too chicken shit to deal with them and I got orders to go handle it I'd go take care of it and I'd be back before supper.
Or vice versa with Republicans.
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Last edited by nextJin; 01-22-2013 at 07:54 PM.
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01-22-2013, 07:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nextJin
This is your standard Bullshit publicity stunt. A few things to point out here:
- incorruptible agrees with it
...some other stuff...
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lulz.
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01-22-2013, 07:59 PM
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Can we just keep all the bullshit conspiracy theories to one thread?
I mean if someone says they heard someone say they heard someone say something with no evidence are we to give it attention?
I can post a ton of "what if" questions as well, does that mean I should? I don't think so.
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01-22-2013, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ivwshane
Can we just keep all the bullshit conspiracy theories to one thread?
I mean if someone says they heard someone say they heard someone say something with no evidence are we to give it attention?
I can post a ton of "what if" questions as well, does that mean I should? I don't think so.
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Criticism of obama != BS conspiracy
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01-22-2013, 08:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incorruptible
Criticism of obama != BS conspiracy
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No you fucking piece of shit! I clearly spelled out what a conspiracy is and once again you are incapable of following along.
In fact you should change your name to "incapable" because you are incapable of having a rational discussion, you are incapable of rational thought, you are incapable of not only posting facts but interpreting facts.
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01-22-2013, 08:36 PM
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Deja vu all over again. face/palm
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01-22-2013, 08:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nextJin
This is your standard Bullshit publicity stunt. A few things to point out here:
- incorruptible agrees with it
- he swears he will never release a name
- he is practically unheard of
- on the heels of the inauguration
- guns are a huge debate atm
He is trying desperately to get attention from low IQ individuals (Republicans) and will in short time publish a book.
What he is ensenuating is that President Obama will use the military to confiscate firearms.
The only General everyone knows is Powell or Petraeus, your average citizen does not know who the Joint Chiefs are and they certainly do not know McChrystal unless they have a Rolling Stone subscription.
Powell is an Obama supporter so that leaves David Petraeus. Considering he current situation I very seriously doubt he would want to do anything else to jeopardize his status (what's left) most certainly not with a no name.
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Well thank God we have a bullshit expert with irrefutable logic to straighten us out.
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01-22-2013, 08:41 PM
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Ridiculous for reasons covered above. What else is there to say?
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01-22-2013, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doppel
It is an odd thing to ask.
If it's true it's hideous.
I've never heard of this guy and when I google him he doesn't even have a wiki page.
What I did find is "Nomination forms are sent by the Nobel Committee to about 3000 individuals"
on wiki, so being nominated is really not that elite.
My honest conclusion at this point is that in the absence of anything from the horse's mouth (the military guy he's talking about), this claim is horse shit. Gives him free publicity for his recent book and no onus of him to ever put up or shut up because he can say he's being discreet by not releasing the name.
I am willing to stake my reputation on having impregnated one of Hollywood's A-list actresses. And trust me, you all know her. I am not going to say who, though, as I respect her privacy. But, just trust me, for serious, it happened.
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At this point, I have to agree with you. Who in the world even makes a claim like that when they know that they can't substantiate it?
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01-22-2013, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Darwin333
At this point, I have to agree with you. Who in the world even makes a claim like that when they know that they can't substantiate it?
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Actually, I can substantiate it. Jessica Biel is giving birth in about 7 months
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If the children or other family members will have access to the gun then they should be interrogated too.
We can also use teachers to enforce these rules, they can ask their students to be honest and if mommy and daddy are in violation of these rules.
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01-22-2013, 08:56 PM
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This is exactly like that crap Harry Reid pulled about Romney's tax returns.
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01-22-2013, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlesKozierok
This is exactly like that crap Harry Reid pulled about Romney's tax returns.
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Yes and the right was all over it saying it must be true!
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01-22-2013, 09:14 PM
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Almost anyone can be "nominated" for a peace prize, that means very little:
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_priz...ce/nomination/
"A nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize may be submitted by any person who meets the nomination criteria. A letter of invitation to submit is not required. "
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_priz...on/#nominators
"Who May Nominate Candidates for the Peace Prize?
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• University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes"
He might even have nominated himself if he is a professor or has started his own "peace institute".
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01-22-2013, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ivwshane
Yes and the right was all over it saying it must be true!
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The left was....and everyone in this article seems to be going "eehhhhh..."
As they should.
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01-22-2013, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Darwin333
At this point, I have to agree with you. Who in the world even makes a claim like that when they know that they can't substantiate it?
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Well, other than Harry Reid...not many...
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01-22-2013, 11:53 PM
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This isn't Watergate anymore, you have to reveal sources nowadays to be credible.
For what it's worth I think it should be a fairly common question to ask. With the tumultuous times you never know what could happen if the right people get incited. Look at the whiskey rebellion, if Washington had military leaders that hesitated to kill American citizens, we wouldn't have lasted past our first few decades as a nation.
There are times when citizens constructively revoke their due process rights, Awlaki is a recent example, and in the future there may be more.
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01-22-2013, 11:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incorruptible
Criticism of obama != BS conspiracy
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When guy A says that guy B told him he believes that guy C wants whatever, it's bullshit conspiracy theory...
Unless it's posted by guy D with Right Wing sympathies & guy C is Obama, in which case It Must Be True, at least in the minds of reactionary Whack-O-matics. Because Obama.
Righties suck at examining their own headsets. It's like the fable of the King's new clothes, except the King never figures it out.
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01-23-2013, 12:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhhnn
When guy A says that guy B told him he believes that guy C wants whatever, it's bullshit conspiracy theory...
Unless it's posted by guy D with Right Wing sympathies & guy C is Obama, in which case It Must Be True, at least in the minds of reactionary Whack-O-matics. Because Obama.
Righties suck at examining their own headsets. It's like the fable of the King's new clothes, except the King never figures it out.
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Haha, Harry, is that you???
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01-23-2013, 07:18 AM
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Lifer
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Originally Posted by chucky2
Haha, Harry, is that you???
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" He's Just as Bad!" provides cover when you need it, huh?
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