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Old 01-18-2013, 12:05 AM   #1
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Default NEW AIO inbound from Corsair and Swiftech

http://www.overclockers.com/swiftech-h220-first-look

http://hardocp.com/news/2013/01/17/c...liquid_coolers

My gut feeling is that Swiftech's offering will be the new king of the hill
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:58 AM   #2
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Expansion Ability - This unit is made to be customized. Competing All-In-One units from other manufacturers are not made to be changed, making it either very difficult or impossible to expand them. The Swiftech H220 can have additional water blocks and radiators added to the loop, and in fact was demonstrated for us running Heaven on dual GPUs with additional radiators – all driven by their compact pump built into the waterblock.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:13 PM   #3
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Not a bad deal, I wonder if there's a difference between the H90 and H110 pumps, as well as where you'd refill them. From reading about modifying my Kuhler 620, the biggest limitations are the air pockets and restrictive tubing. If I could buy the H110 and a resevoir (I'm assuming that's required for the expansion) in addition to a water block for my 660GTX, it's the same price as other waterblock/pump solutions.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:04 PM   #4
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Without seeing any performance numbers, I'd be interested in seeing how the pump on the Swiftech unit handles the extra blocks (and therefore resistance) in the loop. Does it just spin faster (and get louder)? Or will the flow just stink? I think with the H80i and H100i Corsair had some competitive products compared to decent DIY custom loops. I'm curious to see how all these pan out.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:27 PM   #5
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The Swiftech looks to be the winning ticket here. I just hope it doesn't suffer from any weird noises like many of the first gen water aio's did. I will be curious to see how the benchmarks play out.
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The Swiftech kit just looks to be a re-hash of their existing H20-220. Have it pre-filled but keep the upgradability, then market it as a new AIO product. Win!
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I was looking at the NZXT Kraken X60 for $139.99 but if the New Corsair Line H90 at $99.99 and H110 for $129.99 does just as well or better why not.

Think I wait for reviews and further AIO products - Perhaps a H90i or H110i in the near future.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:51 PM   #8
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The Swiftech kit just looks to be a re-hash of their existing H20-220. Have it pre-filled but keep the upgradability, then market it as a new AIO product. Win!
What's the difference between Swiftech's AIO waterblock/pump and the standalone waterblock/pump?
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:55 AM   #9
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No doubt the Swiftech pump will be superior and operates at much higher wattage plus the System has expansion options but I'm surprised it has 120 fans and not 140's.

I'm really interested in the up and coming reviews of these products.

We have to wait and see - These new AIO's have got me Itching.
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What's the difference between Swiftech's AIO waterblock/pump and the standalone waterblock/pump?
Are you asking about what I linked versus the "new" stuff? The difference is, uh... the "new" stuff comes with the tubes pre-attached and the entire loop pre-filled?

Seriously, Swiftech has been making integrated pump/blocks for years, and at reasonable prices too. Logical move for them.
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All of these pre-sealed water cooling solutions seem overpriced. Most of them are fairly loud on the pump and at $100+ I'd get the best performing HSF.

Although, space wise you can shove these in pretty small cases and get damn good cooling.
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:53 PM   #12
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All of these pre-sealed water cooling solutions seem overpriced. Most of them are fairly loud on the pump and at $100+ I'd get the best performing HSF.
IMO pumps themselves are not "loud." There are two issues.

1) Pump is another mechanical device and makes noise, kind of like running dual fans on a big tower air cooler.

2) Sometimes air bubbles get into the AIO coolers, which makes "rattling" noises in the pump. This problem can be cleared up with some judicious tapping, or it may go away by itself.

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Although, space wise you can shove these in pretty small cases and get damn good cooling.
For this reason alone, AIO have a viable place in the market.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:45 AM   #13
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Check Out this Swiftech H220 Demonstration - Really Impressive - I believe I've made up my mind at $139.95 it truly does blow away the competition.

He says 120mm Fans but I wonder if they have since updated to 140 Fans but it seems irrelevant considering the quality of the Radiator and I like the Integrated Bios Fan Control - It doesn't need USB connectors and Software.

Swiftech has the best mounting system, meanest Pump on the Market, has 3 Year Warranty and totally flexible for adding other components. For say the same price as other Mfgr comparable units or say $40 more then a Corsair H90 - It blows away the competition in all respects - That's my opinion and the reason I will spend a little more for a Swiftech H220 AIO System.

ETA End of February ;o)

OK buy a Corsair H90 for $100 or a Swiftech H220 for $140. The Cosair H60 at $80 seems to have good reviews for an AIO H2O CPU Cooler in comparison to a $90 Noctua NH-D14 but then you get what you pay for.

The Antec Kuhler H2O 920 has dropped to $90 = the price of a Noctua, so you can see the effect the Swiftech 220 is having on the market.

If you don't plan on overclocking a SB beyond 4.5GHz or a an IB beyond 4.2GHz the $30 Cooler Master Hyper 212+ will probably do just fine.

Personally, I'm thinking 4.8 to 5 GHz 24/7 with a SB i7 2700K @ 1.35 to 1.4v vcore (I'm leaving lots of room here) and should take a an IB i7 3770K to at least 4.6Ghz 24/7 with temps below 80C under full load. Hence H20 Cooling and this Swiftech H220 for $140 looks like it will do the job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5mJTGnrNWc

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZgct...A0Tunw&index=9

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UPDATE:
Comparing the NZXT Kraken X60 for $139.99 to the Swiftech H220 for the same price you can't go wrong with the Swiftech considering future Options and Features (Inc the Super Strong 6 Watt Pump).

No doubt if Competitors are to remain attractive Price wise in the AIO Market, that is on what you get for the $, they will have to reduce their price.

I bet the NZXT Kraken X60 and Corsair H110 will be priced around 100 to 120 $ by the end of February - Nice units but not worth 20 to 40 $ more in comparison to the Swiftech.

All 120 and 140 units units including the Corsair H90 should be well below $80 if it's to compete with the Swiftech 140 unit for $99.

Can't wait for the End of February and can Swiftech Deliver an Expandable 6 Watt Base Pump CPU AIO Cooler with a 5 Year Warranty for $100 to $140. How about $80/$120 on Sale.

5Ghz 24/7 i7 2700K, below 80C under Full Load, here I come.
Asking Too Much?

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Old 01-23-2013, 12:31 PM   #15
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Are you asking about what I linked versus the "new" stuff? The difference is, uh... the "new" stuff comes with the tubes pre-attached and the entire loop pre-filled?

Seriously, Swiftech has been making integrated pump/blocks for years, and at reasonable prices too. Logical move for them.
I was asking if there's any performance difference between the new Swiftech AIO versus their stand-alone integrated pump/waterblock that anyone knew about. I would hope that the standalone component would be more powerful (since it can add additional VGA waterblocks) compared to the AIO variety at the same cost.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:39 AM   #16
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This looks pretty incredible for the price. I may jump on one and add my 7950 to the loop.

http://www.overclockers.com/swiftech...?utm_source=pr
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:43 PM   #17
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H90 and H110 review:

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/ar...#axzz2JKuHrhNy
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:41 PM   #18
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This looks pretty incredible for the price. I may jump on one and add my 7950 to the loop.

http://www.overclockers.com/swiftech...?utm_source=pr
Very nice! 3/8" tubing and able to expand loop, plus performance as good as competing loops.
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Anandtech's review is up:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6716/c...r-and-swiftech

What bums me the most about the new Corsair units? They won't fit in my rather pricey 800D without modification, but I can always upgrade to a 900D! Thanks, Corsair!
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The new corsair units look like they were thrown together. Seems like they tried to rush them to the market.
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Anandtech's review is up:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6716/c...r-and-swiftech

What bums me the most about the new Corsair units? They won't fit in my rather pricey 800D without modification, but I can always upgrade to a 900D! Thanks, Corsair!
just curious, where did you see the compatibility issue?
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the numbers say it all. one is the H100, the other is the H220. it's going to be 2.2 times moar awesum.
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