Go Back   AnandTech Forums > Social > Off Topic

Forums
· Hardware and Technology
· CPUs and Overclocking
· Motherboards
· Video Cards and Graphics
· Memory and Storage
· Power Supplies
· Cases & Cooling
· SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs
· Networking
· Peripherals
· General Hardware
· Highly Technical
· Computer Help
· Home Theater PCs
· Consumer Electronics
· Digital and Video Cameras
· Mobile Devices & Gadgets
· Audio/Video & Home Theater
· Software
· Software for Windows
· All Things Apple
· *nix Software
· Operating Systems
· Programming
· PC Gaming
· Console Gaming
· Distributed Computing
· Security
· Social
· Off Topic
· Politics and News
· Discussion Club
· Love and Relationships
· The Garage
· Health and Fitness
· Merchandise and Shopping
· For Sale/Trade
· Hot Deals
· Free Stuff
· Contests and Sweepstakes
· Black Friday 2013
· Forum Issues
· Technical Forum Issues
· Personal Forum Issues
· Suggestion Box
· Moderator Resources
· Moderator Discussions
   

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-17-2013, 07:24 PM   #76
Ns1
Lifer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: A Warm Place
Posts: 40,179
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CPA View Post
So, if you're a salesman, oh let's say of commercial printers, and you show up at the Procurement Department of a major new client in your jeans and t-shirt, they would be idiots if they based their impression on your attire? Sorry, but your appearance matters. It's human nature.
I had to go to a deposition once; I met the other lawyer and was completely flabbergasted - white track pants + tank top style workout shirt.

WTF is this, Jon Guido, ESQ?

Expensive lawyer with an expensive office in Santa Monica to boot.
__________________
Racing KT to NoLifer...a true race to the bottom.
Ns1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 07:27 PM   #77
brianmanahan
Diamond Member
 
brianmanahan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,053
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CPA View Post
So, if you're a salesman, oh let's say of commercial printers, and you show up at the Procurement Department of a major new client in your jeans and t-shirt, they would be idiots if they based their impression on your attire? Sorry, but your appearance matters. It's human nature.
i would be more inclined to buy from someone in a tshirt and jeans, because they're not an bozo who thinks suits or business casual matter for crap in anything that anyone does
__________________
She was a broad and burly man, her name was Brian Manahan.
Five foot three, built like a tree, she sat to poop and stood to pee.
brianmanahan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 07:29 PM   #78
brianmanahan
Diamond Member
 
brianmanahan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,053
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ns1 View Post
I had to go to a deposition once; I met the other lawyer and was completely flabbergasted - white track pants + tank top style workout shirt.

WTF is this, Jon Guido, ESQ?

Expensive lawyer with an expensive office in Santa Monica to boot.
maybe he is just confident enough in his ability that he doesnt need to dress himself up to pathetically try to convince other people of said ability
__________________
She was a broad and burly man, her name was Brian Manahan.
Five foot three, built like a tree, she sat to poop and stood to pee.
brianmanahan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 07:36 PM   #79
Ns1
Lifer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: A Warm Place
Posts: 40,179
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brianmanahan View Post
maybe he is just confident enough in his ability that he doesnt need to dress himself up to pathetically try to convince other people of said ability
I don't doubt his ability, it was just screamed douchey as fuck and unprofessional. I mean come the fuck on, the rest of your fucking office is in suit/tie.
__________________
Racing KT to NoLifer...a true race to the bottom.
Ns1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 07:37 PM   #80
vi edit
Super Moderator
 
vi edit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 52,674
Default

Here's the shoe in question...I was wearing a light pair of kahkis and a polo with them.
http://www.foroatletismo.com/imagene...T0A1N_0123.jpg

As for what I do...I sit at a desk all day and work tickets and do application build. No face to face contact with customers.

I don't have a problem with a manager reporting something to another manager. Especially when it's a glaring procedural or legal issue. But a) to even notice I'm wearing a tennis shoe and b) be so offended by it that you report it another manager? Really? Come on.
__________________
Everyone has a photographic memory. It's just that not everyone has film.
vi edit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 07:39 PM   #81
oldsmoboat
Elite Member
 
oldsmoboat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Kaliforniastan
Posts: 45,678
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnD1 View Post
I've never understood this. People miss 1 day of work because they are coughing, and their stupid fuck employer wants a note? Yeah, let's waste $100 and the doctor's time for him to write down on a piece of paper that you are in fact coughing.

Companies should be required by law to pay 100% the cost of seeing the doctor and the cost of the note. If you want a note, you pay for it.
It's policy after 2 days where I work. Though I don't enforce it unless I suspect the person of trying to get one over. Like missing a mandated (training, workload) day.
__________________
For A Friend
BetterCreditCard.Com
It's not the odds that guide me, it's the stakes
oldsmoboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 07:44 PM   #82
vi edit
Super Moderator
 
vi edit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 52,674
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oldsmoboat View Post
It's policy after 2 days where I work. Though I don't enforce it unless I suspect the person of trying to get one over. Like missing a mandated (training, workload) day.
When I was first hired our sick policy was 1st day was PTO, 2nd sick day came out of your sick bank. NO ONE was ever sick for just one day. 2nd day was a freebie since most of us (that weren't ever going to or done having kids) rarely ever got to use sick time. Doctors note was only required after 3 days.

They yanked that policy a few years ago. Now it's 3 days of PTO from being sick and then you start dipping into your sick time once you have a doctor's note.
__________________
Everyone has a photographic memory. It's just that not everyone has film.
vi edit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 07:50 PM   #83
ShawnD1
Lifer
 
ShawnD1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 16,000
Default

If my computer was broken and the tech guy was wearing tennis shoes, I would refuse to let him fix my computer. Anything less than business attire to fix my computer is unacceptable.
ShawnD1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:03 PM   #84
brianmanahan
Diamond Member
 
brianmanahan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,053
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnD1 View Post
If my computer was broken and the tech guy was wearing tennis shoes, I would refuse to let him fix my computer. Anything less than business attire to fix my computer is unacceptable.
this, but apply to ANY FREAKIN JOB IN THE WORLD
__________________
She was a broad and burly man, her name was Brian Manahan.
Five foot three, built like a tree, she sat to poop and stood to pee.
brianmanahan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:05 PM   #85
Imp
Diamond Member
 
Imp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Canada
Posts: 9,594
Default

Meh, I've been bitched out for staying until 5pm. Ya, fucking head office of a municipal government office. Entire organization had some nazi rule about leaving at 4:30 (8:30 to 4:30) for "security" purposes...
Imp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:15 PM   #86
child of wonder
Diamond Member
 
child of wonder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 7,342
Default

I often work from home. Dress code is clothing optional.
__________________
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." --Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011 *RIP HITCH*
child of wonder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:16 PM   #87
brianmanahan
Diamond Member
 
brianmanahan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,053
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imp View Post
Meh, I've been b****d out for staying until 5pm. Ya, f****g head office of a municipal government office. Entire organization had some nazi rule about leaving at 4:30 (8:30 to 4:30) for "security" purposes...


i just got done working at 9:00 (pm)
__________________
She was a broad and burly man, her name was Brian Manahan.
Five foot three, built like a tree, she sat to poop and stood to pee.
brianmanahan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:28 PM   #88
blurredvision
Lifer
 
blurredvision's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 17,628
Default

Something has to be said. If not, people start taking advantage, next thing you know everybody is wearing shorts and flip-flops because the people in charge of keeping the dress code were a bunch of pussies.
blurredvision is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:40 PM   #89
vi edit
Super Moderator
 
vi edit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 52,674
Default

I just find the emotional aspect of clothing in general rather bizarre.

I frequently wear some very nice, fitted dress shirts along with dress slacks. Nobody says anything. Slap a tie on that outfit and I suddenly get half a dozen comments about "oh you look nice today"..."what job are you interviewing for?"..ect.

Same outfit, only difference is a tie. Does it *really* change things much? That one accessory?

Just very strange how we are programmed.
__________________
Everyone has a photographic memory. It's just that not everyone has film.
vi edit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:45 PM   #90
Gunslinger08
Lifer
 
Gunslinger08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 12,957
Default

Yep.

Last edited by Gunslinger08; 01-17-2013 at 09:31 PM.
Gunslinger08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:46 PM   #91
Ns1
Lifer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: A Warm Place
Posts: 40,179
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vi edit View Post
I frequently wear some very nice, fitted dress shirts along with dress slacks. Nobody says anything. Slap a tie on that outfit and I suddenly get half a dozen comments about "oh you look nice today"..."what job are you interviewing for?"..ect.
Easy: More often than not, when I see people dressing better than they usually do, it's because they're interviewing.
__________________
Racing KT to NoLifer...a true race to the bottom.
Ns1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:53 PM   #92
SparkyJJO
Lifer
 
SparkyJJO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 12,172
Default

This kind of thing reminds me why I like my job at a small company so much. Office politics simply don't exist. It is awesome.
__________________
Heatware

CO2 is evil. Stop breathing

"I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money that you've earned, but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." - Thomas Sowell
SparkyJJO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 09:30 PM   #93
Braznor
Diamond Member
 
Braznor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Banana Republic
Posts: 3,309
Default

I always keep a spare set of clothing in my locker at the office.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdifox View Post
Braznor for Timelord!
Braznor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 09:40 PM   #94
Lifted
Diamond Member
 
Lifted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,659
Default

Quote:
After two days I had a copy of the dress code with "running shoes" circled as prohibited items.
What did she say when you sat down with her and told her about your injury?
Quote:
I tore it up and laughed.
Oh, IT, no people skills.

Quote:
I tell my boss on Tuesday that I'm going to break the dress code a few days because my toe is fubared. After two days another manager approached my boss about my dress code again.
And your boss said... ?

I assume he has people skills which is why he is your boss.

You learned something valuable today.

Last edited by Lifted; 01-17-2013 at 09:42 PM.
Lifted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 09:53 PM   #95
brianmanahan
Diamond Member
 
brianmanahan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,053
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vi edit View Post
I just find the emotional aspect of clothing in general rather bizarre.

I frequently wear some very nice, fitted dress shirts along with dress slacks. Nobody says anything. Slap a tie on that outfit and I suddenly get half a dozen comments about "oh you look nice today"..."what job are you interviewing for?"..ect.

Same outfit, only difference is a tie. Does it *really* change things much? That one accessory?

Just very strange how we are programmed.
i am not programmed this way in the slightest, which is probably why i hate it so much
__________________
She was a broad and burly man, her name was Brian Manahan.
Five foot three, built like a tree, she sat to poop and stood to pee.
brianmanahan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 09:54 PM   #96
brianmanahan
Diamond Member
 
brianmanahan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,053
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lifted View Post
What did she say when you sat down with her and told her about your injury?

Oh, IT, no people skills.

And your boss said... ?

I assume he has people skills which is why he is your boss.

You learned something valuable today.
stupid
__________________
She was a broad and burly man, her name was Brian Manahan.
Five foot three, built like a tree, she sat to poop and stood to pee.
brianmanahan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 09:59 PM   #97
Jeff7
Lifer
 
Jeff7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 38,122
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vi edit View Post
I just find the emotional aspect of clothing in general rather bizarre.

I frequently wear some very nice, fitted dress shirts along with dress slacks. Nobody says anything. Slap a tie on that outfit and I suddenly get half a dozen comments about "oh you look nice today"..."what job are you interviewing for?"..ect.

Same outfit, only difference is a tie. Does it *really* change things much? That one accessory?

Just very strange how we are programmed.
Dressing in business clothing: It proves that you know how to go to a clothing store, say "I need some business clothes and a tie" to an employee there, and that you can then dress yourself without choking on your belt.
It doesn't require a whole lot of intelligence, but as you point out, it's an easy way to impress some people.

Now, I won't deny that some decent clothing can indeed be aesthetically pleasing. But it doesn't prove your worth as a human being. It's fabric stuff we wear, partly out of practicality to cover our (mostly/sometimes) hairless bodies, partly out of our ideas of modesty, partly out of hygienic habits, partly out of utility (oooooh, more pockets), and partly just for logistics so it's easier to tell who's who ("Hey, that's not a FedEx guy peeing on my lawn!).



Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
This kind of thing reminds me why I like my job at a small company so much. Office politics simply don't exist. It is awesome.
Small company with no office politics. You're the sole employee then, I presume?


I once thought there were no politics like that where I worked - but that was because I was afforded the luxury of being stashed in the office/box with the other two engineers, and our main interactions with people there were primarily when they needed technical help with something, and then it was back to our box.
The company started growing, and management started trying to get us more "involved."


I miss that quiet little box.
__________________
I'm looking for a good physical therapist in Gainesville, FL.

"Homeopathy is what you get when snake oil salesmen discover that water is cheaper than snake oil."

Last edited by Jeff7; 01-17-2013 at 10:07 PM.
Jeff7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 11:04 PM   #98
Phoenix86
Lifer
 
Phoenix86's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: DFW
Posts: 10,671
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brianmanahan View Post
it only matters because of idiots who think it matters
Some of those idiots are called owners, executives, partners, clients, customers, jurors, judges, etc.

Keep fighting the system, don't let the man bring you down.
__________________
Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects. ~ Will Rogers
Phoenix86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 11:07 PM   #99
brianmanahan
Diamond Member
 
brianmanahan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,053
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix86 View Post
Some of those idiots are called owners, executives, partners, clients, customers, jurors, judges, etc.

Keep fighting the system, don't let the man bring you down.
i do man, i do

doesnt matter what their job is, on this matter they are wrong
__________________
She was a broad and burly man, her name was Brian Manahan.
Five foot three, built like a tree, she sat to poop and stood to pee.
brianmanahan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 11:08 PM   #100
Corporate Thug
Lifer
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 37,400
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by waggy View Post
get a note. tell them they are tempting a ADA suit.

sit back and laugh.
reminder of the dress code is not an adverse employment action.

If you want to hear about petty, my former cheap ass office manager asked for an explanation every time someone asked for a highlighter...
__________________
AKA Shady06

Member, Official AnandTech Bar Association

Corsair 700D ll i2500k@ 4.5 Ghz ll Asrock z68 gen3 ll Sapphire 7870XT Tahiti @ 1200/1600 ll Corsair A70 ll XFX 650W Black Edition ll 8GB Corsair Vengeance ll Dell 2707 WFP
Corporate Thug is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.