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Old 01-05-2013, 03:44 PM   #1
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Default I really hope this "Metro Look" doesn't catch on

It just looks so cluttered and disorganized.
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:08 PM   #2
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A little late for hope, since its on every new Windows device now.
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:19 PM   #3
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It just looks so cluttered and disorganized.
All Windows Os's are cluttered and disorganized. Just install an application and look in the registy, Appdata folder, the 2 seperate Temp folders...etc.
everywhere you look there are files from each app spread all over the place. It's funny to have a "saved games" folder and like 2 developers ever even put gamesaves there. Some put it in Docs directly or make sub folders within it or place crap into the Appdata as well. It never ends. MS should have forced developers to create 1 folder to contain all data and libraries needed instead of letting them all share. I'm sure there is reasons aside from creating dependancies..etc, but it's really not necessary and causes the classic "Windows rot".
That's why i try to use portable apps when possible.

However Metro is dead stupidly easy to organize yourself ya know.
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:48 PM   #4
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As opposed to the pathetic, outdated but totally awesome walls of icons on the other major OS's?
Its not perfect but at least their trying something new.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:54 PM   #5
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It just looks so cluttered and disorganized.
Cue the parade of MS lapdogs.

I was at a big box store today and saw their whole lineup of display model laptops (many nice sleek pro-looking hardware designs) and the glaring contrast of the screens all blaring Metro. Hardware wise, it was 2013; software wise it was a flashback to AOL circa 1996.

I kind of equate it to going to a car dealership and all the new cars (otherwise nice modern designs) have purple and green flames painted down the sides, spinners, and oversized rice-rocket spoilers tacked on. Like the whole lineup is now supposed to appeal primarily to 16 year olds. (Only Metro seems to be designed to appeal to pre-schoolers)

The minute you change to the desktop view, it's like an adult's computer again- but a whole lineup of machines with Metro awfulness spewing bright kindergarten colors everywhere is the most mismatched ridiculous sight.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:15 AM   #6
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It just looks so cluttered and disorganized.
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Its even worse than when vista came out, at least you knew vistas problems would be fixed eventually, metro is crap by design.
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If you want to see how ugly something can be after being Metro-ized take a look at Office 2013...
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:47 PM   #8
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too bad we'll never see something like this http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/24/28...top-ui-concept
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:49 PM   #9
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The metro look is essentially Microsoft trying to use their huge mass in the desktop sector to break into the mobile world(having apps with a unitary interface,etc.).What the desktop user wants is not a priority right now.

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Old 01-06-2013, 01:56 PM   #10
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If you want to see how ugly something can be after being Metro-ized take a look at Office 2013...
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks so. It almost hurts my eyes just to look at it.
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Cue the parade of MS lapdogs.

I was at a big box store today and saw their whole lineup of display model laptops (many nice sleek pro-looking hardware designs) and the glaring contrast of the screens all blaring Metro. Hardware wise, it was 2013; software wise it was a flashback to AOL circa 1996.

I kind of equate it to going to a car dealership and all the new cars (otherwise nice modern designs) have purple and green flames painted down the sides, spinners, and oversized rice-rocket spoilers tacked on. Like the whole lineup is now supposed to appeal primarily to 16 year olds. (Only Metro seems to be designed to appeal to pre-schoolers)

The minute you change to the desktop view, it's like an adult's computer again- but a whole lineup of machines with Metro awfulness spewing bright kindergarten colors everywhere is the most mismatched ridiculous sight.
I agree but, just wanted to warn you that "lapdog" may be perilously close to "drinking the kool-aid" which may draw the ire of our more stuffy overlords.
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too bad we'll never see something like this http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/24/28...top-ui-concept
That's how they should have handled Metro on the desktop. The clean, streamlined aesthetics of Metro is fine. What's completely asinine is forcing the *functional* limitations of tablet-optimized Metro on desktop users, namely full screen apps, over-sized controls and extremely awkward multitasking.
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too bad we'll never see something like this http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/24/28...top-ui-concept
Maybe it's just me, but that looks like it was very heavily influenced by Ubuntu.
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Sadly the general public seems to like it based on it's explosive sales numbers on release. Us techy people are a minority and the industry does not really care about us. That's why it's going to get harder and harder to buy/build a real computer with keyboard and mouse with multiple monitors.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:20 PM   #15
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too bad we'll never see something like this http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/24/28...top-ui-concept
That would have been far preferable.

This is thing that annoys me off about the whole idea of Metro: it's behind the curve on multiple levels.

First off, the whole forced full screen nonsense is trying to "Me too! Me too!" iOS from 4 years ago.

Secondly: those that already have been doing tablet UI's are realizing that the tablet UI needs to evolve and become more like the desktop, NOT the other way around which is f'ing assbackwards.

IE: Samsung for example, currently has the first iterations of multi-window on the Galaxy Note tablets and phone. If you have enough screen real estate, there's no logic to not allowing multiple windows if the user so chooses. Touch interfaces DO NOT mean people's brains become more simplified and that they can't possibly be able to multitask.

Even on a tablet, forced-full screen will eventually become a past-limitation. On a desktop- it's BEYOND assbackward, it's downright stupid.

And for those that say Apple is doing the same thing- I submit you probably haven't used a Mac with a touch interface. Apple's thinking on touch interfaces is lightyears ahead of MS's backwardness. Launchpad on Mac OSX makes perfect sense; it doesn't try to take over the OS, you call it up with a gesture and it then becomes a very logical way of launching apps. There's no need to make it a forced default. You can touch any menu and pull it down the same as you can with a mouse- again, logical. Your brain doesn't shut down simply because apps have multiple windows- they work the same way as multiple windows always have. Apple did the obvious: made what already works fine work with touch as well as with point devices. They haven't tried to turn OSX into iOS. Sure, iOS and OSX will eventually merge, but Apple is smart enough to make it work so that it seamlessly works logically with both.

MS - late the party and blundering around not really knowing what they were doing- thought it would be speediest just to crudely staple the tablet interface over the desktop and then use rubber bands and scotch tape to kinda-sorta hold them together. In their haste, it didn't occur to them to simply make the traditional desktop interface more touch-friendly as Apple has done, and make Metro more of a gesture-driven launcher that you only need when on a tablet or touchscreen device. That would have actually required some more talented devs who are more up on modern UI design.
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Sadly the general public seems to like it based on it's explosive sales numbers on release. Us techy people are a minority and the industry does not really care about us. That's why it's going to get harder and harder to buy/build a real computer with keyboard and mouse with multiple monitors.
What explosive sales? Its got 1.7% market share in OS, hows that explosive? And thats when its being offered @ $39.99! I imagine sales will slow to a crawl once it jumps up to $99.99.
MS was just stupid & lazy, they made one interface for ALL the platforms, how could they be so lazy & complacent?? It makes no sense that my smartphone has the same UI as my desktop's keyboard & mouse. Its actually mind boggling that this passed Q&A.
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I think it is so hated because the Windows desktop layout has been largely unchanged since '95. I personally think they waited too long to make a change like this. I don't like it, but why would they wait 17 years to make such a drastic change?
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too bad we'll never see something like this http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/24/28...top-ui-concept

That looks pretty good. Now if it weren't so "flat" looking. Maybe some 3D buttons, task bars and some transparency would make that UI really shine.....oh yeah, that would be that ancient "Aero" wouldn't it? With all these powerful 3D video cards and memory being so cheap, that "flat" design seems like such a waste, for my desktop only of course. I realize the "Romper Room" kindergarten look has really caught on and is considered "modern" now.
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I think it is so hated because the Windows desktop layout has been largely unchanged since '95. I personally think they waited too long to make a change like this. I don't like it, but why would they wait 17 years to make such a drastic change?
Because it didn't need a change, the only reason they added Metro now is for mobile devices.

99% of the time I use the Windows 8 desktop for everything. The only time I ever see Metro is when I need to search for something in the start menu.
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If you want to see how ugly something can be after being Metro-ized take a look at Office 2013...
It's not the metro that hurts, it's the white. It's everywhere, and I can't find an option to tone it down.
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Because it didn't need a change, the only reason they added Metro now is for mobile devices.

99% of the time I use the Windows 8 desktop for everything. The only time I ever see Metro is when I need to search for something in the start menu.
But it first boots in Metro by default right? I would do the same as you (99% of the time) no question, it's just that we are on desktops or laptops, so why is this screen suddenly necessary on non-mobile devices?
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Sadly the general public seems to like it based on it's explosive sales numbers on release. Us techy people are a minority and the industry does not really care about us. That's why it's going to get harder and harder to buy/build a real computer with keyboard and mouse with multiple monitors.
Don't worry, the biggest Windows customer is enterprise, and they ain't buying this Metro non-sense.
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too bad we'll never see something like this http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/24/28...top-ui-concept
Still looks cluttered. Guaranteed my wife still wouldn't have a clue of how to do what she wanted on that.
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It just looks so cluttered and disorganized.
Modeled after the management that allowed that crap to ever see the light of day.
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Sadly the general public seems to like it based on it's explosive sales numbers on release.


Windows 8 is being adopted abysmally slow. Microsoft is spinning it heavy but the numbers are worse than compared to the Vista launch.
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