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Old 01-07-2013, 05:08 PM   #1
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Default Dell 30" u3014 2560x1600 information emerges, release date feb/march 2013

Long story short:

"light" AG coating
Won't be using the u3011 AG (BIG PLUS for home users, this translates into higher text sharpness than the u3011)
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http://www.computerbase.de/news/2013...or-dell-u3014/

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Having already the new wide gamut LCDs had announced U2413 and U2713H from Dell UltraSharp series, there is new information about the upcoming 30-inch counterpart, which is expected to replace the U3011. A document confirming thereby the name of "U3014" and also specifies some details.

Since Dell UltraSharp series at last on AH- IPS panels set from LG, we suspect that this is the case with the U3014. In combination with a new LED backlight, which enables a wide color gamut (Wide Gamut) than sRGB addition, for example, the sibling models offer U2413 and U2713H a color depth of 10 bit (1.07 billion colors). Since the U3014 is expected to appeal to the (semi-) professional segment with extensive requirements in terms of color reproduction, we suspect that a similar technique is used. With the already in production AH-IPS panel LM300WQ6-SLA1 from LG would be a candidate ready with respective power values ​​in the 30-inch format. That this is the Dell U3014 use, however, is first pure speculation on our part.
In early December was a reminder of the "U3014" emerged, which was mentioned in the manual, such as the guys from TFT Central were discovered. Has not yet announced while the monitor Dell's now confirmed another official document the existence of the U3014.

Document confirms Dell U3014 (Picture: energystar.gov )
Can't wait for the AT review where input lag is tested at a non native resolution

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Old 01-07-2013, 05:11 PM   #2
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So is this a TN panel or IPS panel?
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:13 PM   #3
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So is this a TN panel or IPS panel?
It's not going to be a TN panel. LG does not produce TN panels higher than 1080p. Aside from that obvious bit--this is primarily for professional use -- an area where TN panels are terrible due to poor color accuracy and bad viewing angles.

Going by the speculated LG model numbers, its going to be an updated AH-IPS panel using the latest from LG.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:14 PM   #4
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What do you mean by "No matte coating"?
It going to be glossy?
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:17 PM   #5
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What do you mean by "No matte coating"?
It going to be glossy?
It's a light AG/anti-reflective coating similar to what is used on the 2713HM and all PLS panels. The matte coating on the u2711/u3011 were unusually thick causing text on white backgrounds to appear grainy.

It will not be glossy.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:29 PM   #6
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LG releasing a 30 inch, ultra HD 4k2k monitor this year as well:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/26/l...izes-high-res/

Pricing will undoubtedly be outrageous. I'm guessing 4-5000$ minimum.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:32 PM   #7
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LG releasing a 30 inch, ultra HD 4k2k monitor this year as well:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/26/l...izes-high-res/

Pricing will undoubtedly be outrageous. I'm guessing 4-5000$ minimum.

I would assume closer to $3k, but I could be wrong.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:36 PM   #8
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IMO, I wouldn't really think so.... 50 inch 4k TV's already cost over 10k, and monitors have more strict QA and cost more per inch than TVs typically do. Slight quality defects are usually forgivable in TVs but rarely are with computer monitors - users who see dead pixels will undoubtedly return them. So the QC costs are substantially higher.

This is basically LG getting their wares out first. It will be a very limited run product with very few buying it aside from professional users - it won't be geared toward home users, not initially. So i'm estimating 4k $ minimum. Like mentioned, I don't feel this is going to be a mass consumer product at all. It's basically a war between LG and samsung to one up each other at this point, and right now they can inflate prices as high as they want.

Price speculation aside, I can't wait for this to become mainstream. I am ready!

edit: I JUST realized that this is the monitor that FX1 has been long waiting for.

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Old 01-07-2013, 07:05 PM   #9
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Check this bad boy out:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/7/384...d-tv-announced

84 inch 4k ultra HD TV. Man, that would be orgasmic for a home theater!

Looks like 2014 will be the year of Ultra HD, can't wait.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:27 PM   #10
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If it's not 120hz, I'm not interested. The lack of 120hz IPS panels was annoying two years ago and is frankly sickening now.
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If it's not 120hz, I'm not interested. The lack of 120hz IPS panels was annoying two years ago and is frankly sickening now.
That's the way I feel about TN panels. The viewing angles and poor colors disgust me. Literally, I can stare at a 27" TN panel head on center and still see color shifting from left to right. Ugh. 120hz is nice, but having a terrible picture to look at (and low resolution to boot) isn't! Just IMO.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:41 PM   #12
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120hz on an IPS would be nice, but 120hz is not nice to enough to use a trashcan TN panel. IPS looks so much better than TN I certainly couldn't compromise to TN to have 120hz.

It would be even worse having a 30" TN panel as the screen is so large you'd probably notice image degradation peripherally like you see when viewing a TN from an angle.

OT: I'm a little relieved that this monitor looks to not be bringing any big improvements over the U3011 apart from the improved AG coating. Just bought a U3011 to replace my 3007WFP and it's always nice to see you didn't miss out on the latest greatest improvements
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:05 PM   #13
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Groove, Coming from the 3007 that 3011 ag coating will seem crystal clear.
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120hz on an IPS would be nice, but 120hz is not nice to enough to use a trashcan TN panel. IPS looks so much better than TN I certainly couldn't compromise to TN to have 120hz.
Neither could I. But I refuse to upgrade my eyefinity setup to another IPS display that isn't 120hz.
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120hz isn't going to happen on 2560x1600 panels for a long time, IPS technology doesn't really have a fast enough pixel response time for 120hz, but also the bandwidth required for 2560x1600@120Hz is immense.

I don't think even HDMI 1.4a can manage 2560x1600 we'll need to wait for HDMI 2.0 designed for 4k high res before we can see something like 2560x1600@120Hz, display port is no better from what I remember.
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If it's not 120hz, I'm not interested. The lack of 120hz IPS panels was annoying two years ago and is frankly sickening now.
The problem, aside from a horrific cost, is that DVI doesn't have enough bandwidth to drive its native resolution @ 120Hz. I think Display Port does but almost nobody uses that.
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Display port (current revision) will handle 2560x1600 @ 120hz with a little room to spare.
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The problem, aside from a horrific cost, is that DVI doesn't have enough bandwidth to drive its native resolution @ 120Hz. I think Display Port does but almost nobody uses that.
Displayport does have enough bandwidth, but i'm not sure I would agree that nobody uses it -- DVI is the most commonly used port on desktops, but displayport is quite common in the professional sector - it has quite a few advantages over DVI. Not to mention its the connection of choice for apple devices, and pin compatible with thunderbolt display ports.

Anyway, from what i'm understand 2560 @ 120hz is possible, I'm not really sure why it hasn't been done yet. Perhaps it adds another layer of cost to already expensive panels, shrug.

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I would settle for 1920x1200@120Hz. Its a better resolution for working and ideally I want to slot a 120Hz monitor into my 3 monitor setup so that I can use it for games where the 3 monitor surround doesn't work.
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Displayport does have enough bandwidth, but i'm not sure I would agree that nobody uses it -- DVI is the most commonly used port on desktops, but displayport is quite common in the professional sector - it has quite a few advantages over DVI.
In the grand scheme of things, almost nobody uses 2560x1600, period. The number of 2560x1600 users that also use Display Port is a tiny fraction of that.
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I've been digging around on this and it appears the reason for the 60hz limitation on 2560 IPS panels is indeed due to the lack of bandwidth of DVI-D. The panel produced by LG is capable of 120hz - and has for some time - but the DVI interface does not allow for it within specs; it does not have enough bandwidth while displayport does.

Since DP will become more mainstream (with apple using it exclusively) and WiDi requiring DP - hopefully 120hz @ 2560x1600 will happen soon.
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In the grand scheme of things, almost nobody uses 2560x1600, period. The number of 2560x1600 users that also use Display Port is a tiny fraction of that.
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In the grand scheme of things, almost nobody uses 2560x1600, period. The number of 2560x1600 users that also use Display Port is a tiny fraction of that.
But practically everyone could use DisplayPort if they bought a cheap cable, no? I took a quick look at the bottom of the barrel models in each nVidia's Geforce model series starting from the newest, and I had to go all the way to 100 series before I found a card that did not feature DisplayPort.

I don't really see why it would be a problem for full capabilities of a display to require DisplayPort, and that goes double for a top of the range display.
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The problem, aside from a horrific cost, is that DVI doesn't have enough bandwidth to drive its native resolution @ 120Hz. I think Display Port does but almost nobody uses that.
If you think about it, a current generation card is necessary to push that refresh rate on a 1600p monitor so it will come with display port by default. All of the HP laptops we buy at work have had display port and their IPS monitors have included it for the last year. To say that nobody uses it is not true.
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