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Old 01-06-2013, 09:11 PM   #1
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Default DEAR PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE: Mountain Lion + Powerpoint 2011 + Presenter mode = flicker

If you do this:

1). OSX 10.8 Mountain Lion (10.8.2, actually)
2). Office 2011 Powerpoint
3). Laptop (Macbook Pro 15", in this case. Not sure if this is necessary, but is probably most likely)
4). DUAL DISPLAY system, with the external monitor set as "primary" (i.e. the menu bar is on the external monitor)
5). Presentation mode (where the secondary screen displays notes, timer, etc)

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CRAZY FLICKER.

FIXES:
1. If you "swap displays" -- i.e. make the built-in monitor display the slides, and the external monitor display the "notes" -- mid presentation, it stops.

2. If you switch the "primary" display to the main, built-in display, and THEN presentation mode, no flicker. Even if you display the actual presentation on the external monitor (and the notes on the built-in), just like before.

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Could someone else with close to the above setup test this out, and let me know if I'm the only person this happens to? (Google returns a number of hits, but just to be sure)

Thanks!
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:37 AM   #2
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Well...

1) OSX 10.8.2
2) PowerPoint for Mac 2011 version 14.2.5
3) MacBook Pro 15" w/ Retina display
4) Dual display. HDMI output to 1080p external display that's set as Primary (has menu bar)
5) Presentation mode (notes and slide previews on Retina screen, actual presentation on the 1080p external display)

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Nothing. Perfectly fine.

I've used that setup just last week, and after you posted this, I just tested it again at home with my TV.

No flicker.

So... I'm afraid you have a problem.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:04 AM   #3
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Well...

1) OSX 10.8.2
2) PowerPoint for Mac 2011 version 14.2.5
3) MacBook Pro 15" w/ Retina display
4) Dual display. HDMI output to 1080p external display that's set as Primary (has menu bar)
5) Presentation mode (notes and slide previews on Retina screen, actual presentation on the 1080p external display)

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Nothing. Perfectly fine.

I've used that setup just last week, and after you posted this, I just tested it again at home with my TV.

No flicker.

So... I'm afraid you have a problem.
Okay, well, that's one datapoint, then. Thanks for replying.

I'm guessing it's the HDMI out/retina MBP. (I have an Early 2011 with hi-rez antiglare, for what that's worth. So I use mini-DP/Thunderbolt)

Could you try it via mini-DP with a dongle? Or without a dongle, for that matter? I tried with a mini-DP to DP cable to my Dell 2408 and with a mini-DP to HDMI dongle to a 1080P Panasonic Plasma, and both had the same effect.

I sincerely doubt this is a hardware thing, as a). Other people have posted with the same phenomena and b). This only happens in this specific instance. Otherwise, every aspect of both of my displays, in all cases, work perfectly.

I have a Dell 20" LCD at work, with a mini-DP to DVI dongle, and I'll try it there (I don't notice it there, I'm guessing, because at work, the primary display is the laptop's. But I'll switch it and see what happens).

But again, thanks for chiming in, and if you could try it via mini-DP that'd be great.

Anyone else?
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:11 AM   #4
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Fine for me with my HDMI out on my rPro.
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I just tried Mini-DP out (both ports) to a Cinema Display, and then Mini-DP to HDMI via adapter to the same HDTV used with the HDMI port, and... still no flickering.

Just for kicks, I also used Mini-DP with VGA adapter to a random Samsung 24" LCD, and... still no flickering.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:18 PM   #6
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Have you checked you are running all of the latest system ( Graphics driver ) and Microsoft Office updates?
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:03 PM   #7
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Have you checked you are running all of the latest system ( Graphics driver ) and Microsoft Office updates?
If there's a way of updating the graphics driver outside of Apple System Update/App Store, then perhaps not, but otherwise, I'm as new as possible.

Same with Office.

I just tested it again with a Dell 1901FP on a mini-DP to DVI dongle. Same deal.

Makes me wonder if it's just my particular laptop, or just early 2011 or what.

But hopefully someone else with a non rMBP will chime in.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:58 PM   #8
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1). OSX 10.8 Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
2). Office 2011 Powerpoint (Just updated to 14.3.1, problem was there previously too)
3). Laptop (Macbook Pro 15". Unibody, Early-2011)
4). DUAL DISPLAY system, with the external monitor set as "primary". Using Monoprice Thunderbolt->HDMI adapter.
5). Presentation mode (where the secondary screen displays notes, timer, etc)

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YES CRAZY FLICKER.

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FIXES:
1. If you "swap displays" -- i.e. make the built-in monitor display the slides, and the external monitor display the "notes" -- mid presentation, it stops.
Doesn't work for me.

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2. If you switch the "primary" display to the main, built-in display, and THEN presentation mode, no flicker. Even if you display the actual presentation on the external monitor (and the notes on the built-in), just like before.
Does work.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:36 PM   #9
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1: osx 10.8.2
2: office 2011 14.3.1
3: 15" macbook pro (early 2011, 2.2ghz quad, 16GB, patriot wildfire 240GB ssd, 6750m 1GB, 1680x1050 matte)
4: dual display (mini displayport to dvi out to a dell 2407wfp A04)
5: presentation mode

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nothing. works fine on my end.
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