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Old 01-06-2013, 11:56 PM   #1
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Default AMD FX-8350 vs Intels best

Anyone have any opinions on this 8 core AMD processor. Bench marks have been excellent. Price is about $150 less than Intel's top of the line. Need fast processor especially for video editing/encoding. Video encoding on slower systems can take hours of wasted time. Looking for fastest processor at lowest price.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:26 AM   #2
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it looks comparable (or even better) to the 3770 for x264



but uses twice the power,

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Old 01-07-2013, 12:28 AM   #3
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if your trying to build a cheap box and video encoding is the main use. Then a 8320/8350 is perfect. comapred to a 3770K Both can OC to high 4.X on air easy but 3770k has a lower base clock so relative it's a bigger increase in perf But it costs a fair bit more. either will do the job about the same, for me i used the $100 AUD difference between a 3770 and a 8350 to get a 120gig SSD for OS drive.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:48 AM   #4
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itsmydamnation, that's a good idea. But I am also concerned about what spbhm said that the AMD uses twice the power supply. That might mean a more expensive power supply like (600 or 800 watts) and more heat and bigger louder fans. I don't know.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:55 AM   #5
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itsmydamnation, that's a good idea. But I am also concerned about what spbhm said that the AMD uses twice the power supply. That might mean a more expensive power supply like (600 or 800 watts) and more heat and bigger louder fans. I don't know.
any decent power supply should be able to handle the 8350, if you are not doing some high OCs or using multiple VGAs...

you probably need better cooling, but again, 200w is nothing absurd and it shouldn't be a big deal, now if you are aiming for the 4.5+GHz OCs it can be quite different, the i7 can probably be used with some pretty high OCs still using less power than the stock FX.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:58 AM   #6
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A good 500W 80+ PSU will be sufficient for an 8 Core FX + a high end GPU (HD7970). If you encoding 24/7 the 3770K is the best solution. If you only encoding a movie per day the FX8350 is the best bang for the buck.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:56 AM   #7
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I think if video encoding is your thing then a 6 core X79 is the best you can get. Anandtech's results are somewhat different to those present so far, you can see a comparison of the 8350 v 3930k:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=552

Shows a 16-18% advantage in video encoding x264 to the 3930k.

The 3770k compared to the 8350 shows that Pass 1 the Intel beats the 8350 easily, but looses a little in the second pass:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551

Goes from a 22% advantage to a 10% deficit.

All of these solutions will feel pretty decent, 20% isn't a massive amount of difference, nor is 50W of power. Depends how much rides on the best performance really how much this matters.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:19 AM   #8
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it looks comparable (or even better) to the 3770 for x264



but uses twice the power,

Without the power consumsion numbers for the 2 overclocked versions Those charts kinda suck 2x power consumption at stock makes these anything but close. how did things go on the first past. You got more results from the same site .

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Old 01-07-2013, 08:32 AM   #9
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From personally owning a 8350(see rig 3 below) my observation of some of the comments.

First, my 8350 does NOT OC easy to the high 4s on air. Oh, you can find plenty of posters who claim 5Ghz OCs but is it stable to run IBT, OCCP, or AMD OC stability test? Probably not. As to OCing on air, the 8350 still uses a lot of power when the OC is upped and liquid cooling is really needed unless you have a VERY high end air cooler ($$)

A 500W PSU might be sufficient for a stock sytem with a high end video card but any OCing will put you in the danger zone.

My 8350 OC'd to 4.6Ghz (21 x219) is close to a stock 3770k but to get there required a Corsair H100 cooler and a lot of tweeks, so the gap between a 8350 price - $199 - and a 3770k price -$329 (price this morning from newegg.com) is actually much closer.

I really like my 8350, but dollar for dollar if I am building from scratch and my primary concern is a fast processor for video editing, I would probably opt for the 3770k. If I have an AM3+ mb already the answer would be 8350.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:49 AM   #10
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I use Turbo Core (up to 4 threads) to 4.6ghz @ 1.450v, system is stable and runs perfect on air, temps are nice since half the modules are working at 4.6ghz, casual usage is superb where single thread apps rule and where all cores are needed the stock 4.0ghz frequency and performance of the 8350 is more than enough. Its the best of both worlds.
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looks good, i didnt know amd had something that was competitive with intels best. but if it uses twice the power, youre probably not going to be saving any money over the course of a year
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I use Turbo Core (up to 4 threads) to 4.6ghz @ 1.450v, system is stable and runs perfect on air, temps are nice since half the modules are working at 4.6ghz, casual usage is superb where single thread apps rule and where all cores are needed the stock 4.0ghz frequency and performance of the 8350 is more than enough. Its the best of both worlds.
Good move! I might try that!
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Without the power consumsion numbers for the 2 overclocked versions Those charts kinda suck 2x power consumption at stock makes these anything but close. how did things go on the first past. You got more results from the same site .
http://techreport.com/review/23750/a...or-reviewed/13



overclocked to 4.5 (with turbo to 4.8) it used another 68w
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:19 PM   #14
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if you're not paying for the power than the 8350 is the easy choose, if you are, then you're going to have to do some math -- 3770k, 3930k or fx8350
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:07 AM   #15
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recently amd launched 95w tdp Fx processor i think it is called 8300 ... it cost same as 8350 & is good at overclocking as well : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d-with-Vishera!
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:55 AM   #16
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Anyone have any opinions on this 8 core AMD processor. Bench marks have been excellent. Price is about $150 less than Intel's top of the line. Need fast processor especially for video editing/encoding. Video encoding on slower systems can take hours of wasted time. Looking for fastest processor at lowest price.
Wait...You say the FX-8350 is $150 less than Intel's top of the line? You realize their top of the line is the i7-3970X, and is currently available for $1,079?

Just pointing that out.
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Wait...You say the FX-8350 is $150 less than Intel's top of the line? You realize their top of the line is the i7-3970X, and is currently available for $1,079?

Just pointing that out.
If we're playing that game, then the top of the line is actually the E5-2687W.
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If we're playing that game, then the top of the line is actually the E5-2687W.
Haha, I think Intel's most expensive CPU is actually the new Poulson-core 9560 :

http://ark.intel.com/products/71699/...Cache-2_53-GHz

Honestly in many tasks the x86-based i7s would probably be faster, though from what I understand, the Itaniums are actually capable of amazing performance with the right software and configuration, but probably never for a home user.

http://us.generation-nt.com/new-inte...s-3848572.html

8 Cores, 16 threads per package, supporting quad-socket boards for 32 Cores / 64 Threads, with 32MB cache per package. 2TB system ram supported.

God I bet that would be pricey.
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I'd look into network rendering, check if your software supports it, you could grab a bunch of used computers for cheap (say 2008-2009 dual-quad cores) and build a render farm out of them.

Editing the movie still requires a powerful computer, but the beauty about video encoding is that scales well with more cores.
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I'd look into network rendering, check if your software supports it, you could grab a bunch of used computers for cheap (say 2008-2009 dual-quad cores) and build a render farm out of them.

Editing the movie still requires a powerful computer, but the beauty about video encoding is that scales well with more cores.
Heck, you could even build something- the Athlon II X4 640 (3GHz quad core) is still on Newegg. You could get a cheap mobo, ~4GB DDR3, and the quad core for about $135, by my reckoning. Chuck in a cheap power supply and boot from LAN, and that's a nice cheap compute node.
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I'd look into network rendering, check if your software supports it, you could grab a bunch of used computers for cheap (say 2008-2009 dual-quad cores) and build a render farm out of them.

Editing the movie still requires a powerful computer, but the beauty about video encoding is that scales well with more cores.

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Heck, you could even build something- the Athlon II X4 640 (3GHz quad core) is still on Newegg. You could get a cheap mobo, ~4GB DDR3, and the quad core for about $135, by my reckoning. Chuck in a cheap power supply and boot from LAN, and that's a nice cheap compute node.
And the power usage will sky rocket beyond Jupiter
Better buy a 16 core Opteron.

AMD Opteron 6200 Series Processor 6274 (115W) = $534.72
Supermicro H8SGL-F = $233
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If we're playing that game, then the top of the line is actually the E5-2687W.
I was speaking of desktop CPUs Because the FX-8350 is a desktop cpu.
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I was speaking of desktop CPUs Because the FX-8350 is a desktop cpu.
I agree, though one can pretty much use any x86/x64 capable CPU as a desktop chip. I knew people from way back that ran dual and quad Xeon setups in the P2/P3 era. Not a great value imho, but some people have the money to throw at it.
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I was speaking of desktop CPUs Because the FX-8350 is a desktop cpu.
Meh, that Xeon is the same chip as the i7-3970X, just with all 8 cores enabled
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:22 PM   #25
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Hasn't Intel always had a fairly big advantage over AMD in Video encoding? If your doing Video encoding Id say go Intel. And you also say that processor vs Intels best, you mean best period or best in the same price range. The answers are different.

also keep in mind that to get similar performance from an AMD processor they need twice the cores as intel does to do the same thing.
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