New build, need help

[Kuzzenfu]

Originally Posted by Termie

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/12/1...gb_ssd_review/

To everyone suggesting the Samsung 840 SSD, I'd advise you read today's HardOCP review and see if it doesn't have you reconsidering your advice.

Nice find...and really good to know.

[mfenn]

Originally Posted by 1b0b1

Before you go into in why and how I picked this PSU, well, the price was a kill (104.99$) so I couldn't ignore it.

Kill what? Your wallet? You could've gotten a far better PSU for less money if you had picked something out with a reasonable wattage.

[1b0b1]

Originally Posted by lehtv

Either configuration will work the same. http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%2...e4/?cat=Manual

that's a relief, but why most of the people say that it is always better to use the first and the third slot, is it a false believe ? or is it a motherboard dependent (like in my case, it won't matter if any of the 2 combination were used).

[1b0b1]

Originally Posted by mfenn

Kill what? Your wallet? You could've gotten a far better PSU for less money if you had picked something out with a reasonable wattage.

Well, the price combined with the corsair trademark and a SEMI-Modular 850w and excellent reviews were enough for me to go for it.

Anyways, even if I've already ordered it, I am still open for suggestions, this is not my first build and diffidently not the last. Now you might say that I could have got a reasonable/better PSU that will last for the upcoming builds, well, you might be right. But let's stick to helping each others and provide relative information. That said, would you please give me some examples about the PSU units that you are talking about ?

[Sleepingforest]

If you wanted to SLI
$75 (AR) Corsair CX 80 Plus Bronze 750W
$90 Rosewill Hive 80 Plus Bronze 750W

For a single GPU
$60 Rosewill Green 80 Plus 530W
$65 (AR) Silverstone Strider 80 Plus 600W
$80 Seasonic S12II 80 Plus Bronze 520W
$60 (AR) Corsair CX 80 Plus Bronze 600W

Basically, you spent an extra $20 on 100 watts you didn't need.

[1b0b1]

Originally Posted by Sleepingforest

If you wanted to SLI
$75 (AR) Corsair CX 80 Plus Bronze 750W
$90 Rosewill Hive 80 Plus Bronze 750W

For a single GPU
$60 Rosewill Green 80 Plus 530W
$65 (AR) Silverstone Strider 80 Plus 600W
$80 Seasonic S12II 80 Plus Bronze 520W
$60 (AR) Corsair CX 80 Plus Bronze 600W

Basically, you spent an extra $20 on 100 watts you didn't need.

Thanks for the heads up

[Sleepingforest]

No problem. Just keep in mind next time that 850W doesn't really have a use. It's way too much for dual-SLI and slightly too little for (comfortable) tri-SLI. Each stock 670 takes up around 170W and each stock 680 is around 200W.

Also: Dang, there is a reference EVGA 680 for $430 AR on Tigerdirect.

[1b0b1]

Well, another thing that I had in mind while getting this PSU. I currently live in Saudi Arabia, Riyadh. Which is in the middle of the effin desert. That said, during the summer, the temperature rises up to 56 degrees Celsius if not more, which is really hot, like really really hot. This might trigger some parts to use more power since the speed of the fans increases while trying to compensate that extra heat with more cool air. So to be on the safe side, I went with the 850w psu keeping in mind that i'll be overclocking the CPU/GPU.

[Sleepingforest]

Well, 750W already has some headroom for 2 overclocked 680s, and fans, frankly, don't use that much power. I'm just saying that you could safely drop 100W.

[1b0b1]

I am having second thoughts on the case, should I stick to the nzxt 410 phantom or go with the below:

http://www.aerocool.us/pgs/pgs-b/mechatron_b.htm

[lehtv]

I don't really know much about Aerocool's cases... the design of that case puts me off personally but if you like it more than a Phantom 410, I suppose it's worth a look. The feature set looks pretty comprehensive and modern. I just hope the build quality and quality control is good. Tool-free expansion slots can be either awesome or horrible... You can never tell how thin or thick the metal used on the panels and the frame is just by looking at pictures... If there's a chance you could look at the case in person that would probably help your decision

[1b0b1]

Originally Posted by lehtv

I don't really know much about Aerocool's cases... the design of that case puts me off personally but if you like it more than a Phantom 410, I suppose it's worth a look. The feature set looks pretty comprehensive and modern. I just hope the build quality and quality control is good. Tool-free expansion slots can be either awesome or horrible... You can never tell how thin or thick the metal used on the panels and the frame is just by looking at pictures... If there's a chance you could look at the case in person that would probably help your decision

yeah you are right, your answer is enough even though you didn't have any idea about Aerocool cases. Thumbs up

[mfenn]

Originally Posted by Sleepingforest

If you wanted to SLI
$75 (AR) Corsair CX 80 Plus Bronze 750W
$90 Rosewill Hive 80 Plus Bronze 750W

For a single GPU
$60 Rosewill Green 80 Plus 530W
$65 (AR) Silverstone Strider 80 Plus 600W
$80 Seasonic S12II 80 Plus Bronze 520W
$60 (AR) Corsair CX 80 Plus Bronze 600W

Basically, you spent an extra $20 on 100 watts you didn't need.

The OP doesn't need to SLI for 1080p, so I would stick with the latter list.

[mfenn]

Originally Posted by Sleepingforest

Well, 750W already has some headroom for 2 overclocked 680s, and fans, frankly, don't use that much power. I'm just saying that you could safely drop 100W.

Agree. GTX 680 SLI on an overclocked Socket 2011 CPU draws 536W from the wall, which means it's drawing something like ~450W DC.

[1b0b1]

I already ordered the tx850M guys, thanks anyways

[Sleepingforest]

Be happy with your purchase, just know that next time you can save some cash by buying at a more appropriate level for your parts. Do not be fooled by marketing into thinking more==better all the time. Do not be fooled by marketing into thinking every single part in your computer will ramp up dozens of watts from overclocking or working harder (particularly not the fans or hard drives).

[1b0b1]

I am happy, quite a lot actually. This will be my first build since years and my first ever using high end components

[mfenn]

Originally Posted by Sleepingforest

Be happy with your purchase, just know that next time you can save some cash by buying at a more appropriate level for your parts. Do not be fooled by marketing into thinking more==better all the time. Do not be fooled by marketing into thinking every single part in your computer will ramp up dozens of watts from overclocking or working harder (particularly not the fans or hard drives).

More people need to pay attention to the "power draw" section of Anandtech's reviews. We'd see a lot fewer silly PSU purchases if they did.

[1b0b1]

Hey guys, if i ran everything on stock settings, will i face any bottleneck ? I am planning to OC but not at the beginning.

[lehtv]

Some CPU heavy or badly optimized games will be CPU bottlenecked, situationally. The rest will be GPU bottlenecked.

[1b0b1]

Thanks for the info

[1b0b1]

My pc is now up and running:

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4
VGA: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 (Lightning Edition)
HD WD Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM 64 MB
SS Corsair Force GT 240 GB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800)
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 850 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze

Monitor [S23A950D]: 1920x1080, 23", 120hz, 3D, 2ms



Case [NZXT Phantom 410 Gun Metal]:



Case [inside]:



Case [outside]:



Glowing in the dark:

[lehtv]

Looks great, nice job with the cable management!

[1b0b1]

Originally Posted by lehtv

Looks great, nice job with the cable management!

Thank you. This was in fact, my first cable management attempt ever.
The last time I built a PC was 7 years ago and at that time, most of the cases didn't have any room for cable management.

[Termie]

That is one "sweet ride"!

Congrats!

Of course, you're using a third of the output of that PSU at full load, but eh, it looks nice.