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Old 12-19-2012, 11:44 PM   #1
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Default Help needed for my Projector 3D Project

Well, I started to build my media room (for my son) as a Christmas gift but I think I am missing some important information but I can not find what it might be. The long story short is that I have a projector TV (SLP ready), 3D Blu-Ray standalone player, (Active 3D Shutter glasses) and an xbox360, along with a wii. I have set it all up and everything looks great except the 3D. To help explain what I have, here is the list of the specific items I have.

ViewSonic PJD5133 SVGA DLP Projector (3D-Ready & up to 120Hz refresh rate powered by DLP® Link Technology)
http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-PJD5.../dp/B005EV1R8Y

Panasonic DMP-BDT220 Integrated Wi-Fi 3D Blu-ray DVD Player
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752R4PK/

SainSonic SSZ-200DLW 3D Active Rechargeable Shutter Glasses for DLP-Link Projector-White
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007MYZE26/


The last part of the equation is that I have a 2TB external HD that I need to play my movies off of, including my 3D Blu-Ray's which are all side by side copies. When I try to play them now through the wii or the new blu-ray player, I get two images, side by side just as I do if I play them on my normal computer.
How do I hook up an external hard drive (USB 2.0) to a device that then sends the 3d movie via the HDMI cable to the projector so I can play all my 3d movies?
Also, when I play my original 3d blu-ray disk in the new player, it only shows the one image (as expected) but the 3d is not really working well because nothing seems 3d but the shutter in the glasses are working because it makes me a little quesy like motion sickness. (I may be too sensitive to watch 3d movies) I have the settings on the DVD player set correctly to 3d and the projector should be set right as well.

Am I missing a peice of equipment or is it my settings? I have been seeing a lot of talk about HTPC and using computers with special video cards, is that the way to play 3d blu rays if I want to run them off of a hard drive instead of the original disks? If I need equipment, what will I need? I prefer to spend a fairly small amount, nothing above a couple hundred of dollars maybe.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:16 AM   #2
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Oh, I forgot to mention, in case it matters... My screen is 100 inches wide and 75 inches tall. It is a screen fabric I bought off of ebay and then mounted to a wood frame. It is tight and looks great.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:14 AM   #3
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You need to tell the projector that the source is 3D content in a side-by-side setup. I looked up the manual for the projector, but I don't see any way to tell it that.

As for the frame Packing content, is your IR emitter set up correctly? You need it to be in line of sight of the glasses to force the lenses to switch.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:06 AM   #4
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Your Projector can not display 3D from any of your equipment without a converter of some sort as most 3D projectors can't do SBS 3D. The only way you could use your equipment is if you got something like a Optoma 3D XL to convert the image from SBS to something the projector recognizes but the adapter cost around $300 so its a hefty buy. The easiest thing to do for 3D is to use a HTPC with a 3D compatible video card which is AMD HD 5000 series and up which i recommend because if you go with nvidia you have to purchase the Nvida 3D Vision kit.

http://www.optoma.eu/projectordetail...nment&PC=3D-XL

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Old 12-20-2012, 09:28 AM   #5
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Your Projector can not display 3D from any of your equipment without a converter of some sort as 3D projectors can't do SBS 3D. The only way you could use your equipment is if you got something like a Optoma 3D XL to convert the image from SBS to something the projector recognizes but the adapter cost around $300 so its a hefty buy. The easiest thing to do for 3D is to use a HTPC with a 3D compatible video card which is AMD HD 5000 series and up which i recommend because if you go with nvidia you have to purchase the Nvida 3D Vision kit.

http://www.optoma.eu/projectordetail...nment&PC=3D-XL
that is not true at all. i ran side by side 3d projector no problem on mine, however you do have to change the 3d options on the projector to be side-by-side. it also has top/bottom on mine but i've never seen a 3d content piece with that. until i make the change, i will see the side-by-side image like you would on a pc. and i've ran 3d mkv files this same way no problem.

as far as 3d not showing through the glasses, i know my glasses have 2 settings. 1 of them will make it so you can watch a 3d movie (that will be blurry without glasses) and it show with no 3d effects. the other mode will make it actually look 3d. make sure your glasses are set properly.

i have a panasonic 8000ae fwiw.

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and i'm not sure about your projector as it says 3d ready and i'm not familiar with what that actually entails, but Durvelle27 may be right that you need an adapter.

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Old 12-20-2012, 09:46 AM   #6
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that is not true at all. i ran side by side 3d projector no problem on mine, however you do have to change the 3d options on the projector to be side-by-side. it also has top/bottom on mine but i've never seen a 3d content piece with that. until i make the change, i will see the side-by-side image like you would on a pc. and i've ran 3d mkv files this same way no problem.

as far as 3d not showing through the glasses, i know my glasses have 2 settings. 1 of them will make it so you can watch a 3d movie (that will be blurry without glasses) and it show with no 3d effects. the other mode will make it actually look 3d. make sure your glasses are set properly.

i have a panasonic 8000ae fwiw.

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and i'm not sure about your projector as it says 3d ready and i'm not familiar with what that actually entails, but Durvelle27 may be right that you need an adapter.
You happen to have one of those projectors that support that. Most don't especially projectors under $1000
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:50 AM   #7
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You happen to have one of those projectors that support that. Most don't especially projectors under $1000
yea to be fair i didn't click on his projector link until after i made my post. i did not realize it was a $350 projector.
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yea to be fair i didn't click on his projector link until after i made my post. i did not realize it was a $350 projector.
It's cool. But yes he's is a 3D ready projector so he needs either a HTPC or a 3D converter to view SBS 3D which is used by Xbox 360's, PS3's, and Blu-ray players.



@ OP if you have a pc just drop a cheap HD 6450 into it and use that for 3D
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:16 PM   #9
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So my 3d bluray and 3d SLP ready projector is just part of what I need. It looks like I will need something like an HTPC? Not to ask a silly question but if the bluray 3d player doesnt process the 3d images, then I should just return it and play my 3d blurays from the hard drive right, using a htpc or a computer with an hdmi 3d video card?

I was looking at walmart at this htpc but this doesnt help solve the 3d issue right? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Western-Di...layer/19414692
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:40 AM   #10
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So my 3d bluray and 3d SLP ready projector is just part of what I need. It looks like I will need something like an HTPC? Not to ask a silly question but if the bluray 3d player doesnt process the 3d images, then I should just return it and play my 3d blurays from the hard drive right, using a htpc or a computer with an hdmi 3d video card?

I was looking at walmart at this htpc but this doesnt help solve the 3d issue right? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Western-Di...layer/19414692
No the Blu-ray player does process it and send the signal to what ever source is connected. The problem is the projector doesn't have a HDMI 1.4 port which is needed for the Blu-ray player to detect the TV/projector and send the 3D image signal to it and also the projector uses a different 3D signal than which the Blu-ray uses

So yes i advise you to return the Blu-ray player and use a HTPC with a Blu-ray Reader to watch your movies


Edit: no that doesn't solve the problem as its a media streamer not a HTPC. Do you have a PC with a PCIe slot and SATA port if so just get these two and your set.

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6450 $29.99 AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102933

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ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135247

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LG Black 10X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo Drive $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136252

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Old 12-21-2012, 08:49 AM   #11
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Thanks to everyone for all of their help. I ended up ordering the SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6450 and will hook up my second computer to the projector for the most flexibility there is. I will stream all tv/movies on the computer, leaving nothing else except the wii and xbox360. Netflix, hulu, ect can be played on the computer or the wii so that should cover me for everything. I will use the computer and the external hard drive to run all of the 3d movies. Again, thank you all for your time and help.
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Thanks to everyone for all of their help. I ended up ordering the SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6450 and will hook up my second computer to the projector for the most flexibility there is. I will stream all tv/movies on the computer, leaving nothing else except the wii and xbox360. Netflix, hulu, ect can be played on the computer or the wii so that should cover me for everything. I will use the computer and the external hard drive to run all of the 3d movies. Again, thank you all for your time and help.
the Xbox 360 can also stream Hulu, Netflix, VuDu etc
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:06 PM   #13
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Never mind, I am an idiot and forgot to change back the projector settings.

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