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Old 12-17-2012, 04:29 PM   #1
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Default Advice on new WHS + Indexer VM box

Been feeling the need to upgrade my trusty WHS v1 box for a little while now, as it's getting a bit long in the tooth. Also, I'm thinking of running my own newsgroup indexer running under a VM on the server.

Current setup:

AMD Athlon II X2 240 at 2.8Ghz
Foxconn A74-MLK mobo
2 GB DDR2 6400 ram
8TB HDD space

I'm only going to replace CPU, mobo, and ram. Here is what I was thinking (Newegg pricing):

AMD A8 3870k ($90)
MSI A55M-P33 mobo ($50)
8GB G-Skill Ripjaws ($41)

I already have a copy of WHS2011 I'll be using for the OS, as well as VMWks 9 to run the virtual indexing server. I'm trying to balance wattage requirements as it will run 24/7, with enough processing power that the VM won't choke.

Any other ideas on component choices?

Also just saw Newegg running this combo on sale for $25 more:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...=Combo.1146362

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Old 12-17-2012, 08:20 PM   #2
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Either set of parts you've picked out would work fine, though the Trinity combo is a better deal of the two. If you really want low power though, you've gotta go Intel:

i3 3220 $120
ASRock B75M-DGS $55
G.Skill DDR3 1600 8GB $38
Total: $213

That'll come out to about half the power draw of the AMD system when indexing full bore.

VMWare Workstation allows you to get pretty fine-grained with resource limitations, so you prioritize the two workloads as you see fit.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:21 AM   #3
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Thanks for the suggestions. Do you think that the dual core with HT will handle mkv streaming + VM indexing consecutively better than the 4 cores of the A8?
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:50 AM   #4
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That'll come out to about half the power draw of the AMD system when indexing full bore.
You're forgetting that the GPU will not be loaded, so I think power consumption will be similar...

Case in point, I have a friend with a laptop with a A6-3420M quad. It has a 35W TDP. When only running CPU intensive tasks it has no problem running at max. turbo (2.4GHz on all cores) but when you put stress on the GPU it drops back to its standard frequency of 1.5GHz...

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Thanks for the suggestions. Do you think that the dual core with HT will handle mkv streaming + VM indexing consecutively better than the 4 cores of the A8?
If you're going Intel, I'd only consider quadcore i5's. You can properly get by with a 3330, the cheapest one...
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:34 PM   #5
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You're forgetting that the GPU will not be loaded, so I think power consumption will be similar...
Doubtful. The i3 is literally half the TDP of the A8 and that includes the i3's IGP as well. The actual power draw of the CPU in the i3 is something like 40W, the A8 is more like 65W.

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If you're going Intel, I'd only consider quadcore i5's. You can properly get by with a 3330, the cheapest one...
Sure a quad core would be better, but each core in an Ivy Bridge CPU is right around twice as fast as a core in an A8. Generally speaking, you'd rather have two fast cores than 4 slower cores because not everything parallelizes perfectly.
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Doubtful. The i3 is literally half the TDP of the A8 and that includes the i3's IGP as well. The actual power draw of the CPU in the i3 is something like 40W, the A8 is more like 65W. Sure a quad core would be better, but each core in an Ivy Bridge CPU is right around twice as fast as a core in an A8. Generally speaking, you'd rather have two fast cores than 4 slower cores because not everything parallelizes perfectly.
You're right, that was a mistake on my part...

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Old 12-19-2012, 11:26 AM   #7
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Thanks for the inputs guys. Here's what I wound up ordering:

i5-3450
ASRock B75M
8GB Gskill Ripjaws
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Thanks for the inputs guys. Here's what I wound up ordering:

i5-3450
ASRock B75M
8GB Gskill Ripjaws
Looks good.
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