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Old 12-14-2012, 07:47 PM   #1
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Default is the Apple status symbol over?

"(Reuters) - Wal-Mart Stores Inc said on Friday that it began selling Apple Inc's flagship iPhone 5 smartphone at a big discount in thousands of its stores." http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8BD1D120121215

kinda takes the premium out of a premium brand. i thought samsung made a bad move in naming the S3 mini using the premium name on a non premium device, but this has to be worse.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:49 PM   #2
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it might be losing its lust factor in usa. but iphone5 is still the hottest thing in asia. in vietnam, you'll see poor people carrying it. its a huge status symbol there.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:12 PM   #3
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In Canada, the iPhone 5 still sells sheetloads. On a lot of carriers the only way to get it subsidized is on a 3-year contract (yes, 3 year ) and even then, the contract is often higher cost. In contrast, I'm ordering a Razr HD at much lower cost. On my carrier, Fido:

Razr HD 16 GB
$50 on 2-year contract
Contract is $56 per month for 2 GB data and unlimited everything else, incl. nationwide long distance.
$56 plan is a front page promotion.

iPhone 5 16 GB
$179 on 3-year contract. There is no 2-year contract option at all.
$56 plan is not eligible.
Equivalent plan is $80, but you can get it to $67 if you know enough to negotiate.

Over the course of three years, that means the iPhone costs (($179-50) + ($11*36)) = $525 more. Ouch. And that's not even counting the fact that for the 3rd year, the Razr HD deal would be off contract.

Ironically, Google just made the iPhone 5 more attractive than it was last week, with the release of Google Maps for iOS.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:19 PM   #4
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God bless the free market and competition. I hope MS makes some dent in the phone market, too, so that I can enjoy the latest and the greatest for less and less.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:24 PM   #5
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What's Apple retail store price match policy? I wonder if they will price match Walmart. I assume Bestbuy, Target, and others will price match Walmart.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:50 PM   #6
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it might be losing its lust factor in usa. but iphone5 is still the hottest thing in asia. in vietnam, you'll see poor people carrying it. its a huge status symbol there.
Shens.
Apple's launch of the iPhone 5 in China only had two people waiting in line.
The worst launch of any Apple product in history.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:54 PM   #7
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Apple's launch of the iPhone 5 in China only had two people waiting in line.
The worst launch of any Apple product in history.
Lolz. Link?
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:55 PM   #8
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Apple's launch of the iPhone 5 in China only had two people waiting in line.
The worst launch of any Apple product in history.
I don't think we want more people selling their kidney on black market to buy Apple products.... or do we?
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:58 PM   #9
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Today Apple (AAPL) woke up to another pre-market beating. Aside from UBS slightly lowering its price target to $700, the main issue seemed to be the lines at the Chinese stores for the introduction of the iPhone 5. Several reports - including Reuters and the WSJ - said that the lines were 1 (!!!) person long in Shanghai, and 2 persons in Beijing!

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Old 12-14-2012, 09:01 PM   #10
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:07 PM   #11
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apple is still deficient relative to android when it cums to screen size. theres no reason why apple should be selling for twice what the top android phones sell for
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:07 PM   #12
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I read online in China you have to reserve your iPhone online and then pick it up whenever. They do not do the waiting in lines thing anymore as in the past it got too crazy. I think it was at engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/14/i...-china-taiwan/

It does seem like they are waiting for people in your picture though.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:05 AM   #13
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Apple looks to have peaked and is currently on the decline. The magic pixie dust is getting weaker by the month.

Litigation doesn't look to be working out for the best....Seems like Apple should spend more effort/time/$'s on innovation.

Guess the " Made in America " might be the next step to maintain/slow down the rate of decline.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:09 AM   #14
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Every product rises and falls. The question is, will the new hotness come from Apple or someone else.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:16 AM   #15
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The RDF cannot last forever and there are some truly competitive products out there.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:19 AM   #16
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God bless the free market and competition. I hope MS makes some dent in the phone market, too, so that I can enjoy the latest and the greatest for less and less.
I'm with you on this. Competition is king.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:05 PM   #17
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Apple is the poor man's status symbol. Always was and should continue for at least few more years.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:58 PM   #18
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Apple is the poor man's status symbol. Always was and should continue for at least few more years.
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I think he's right. (By the way, I don't think so as a slam against Apple or the products per-se, just the idea that consumer electronics are or ever have been in any way a 'status symbol'.)

Not that I usually am, but I'd be much more impressed by (for example) a $100,000 exclusive sort of car as a status symbol that announces someone is rich (or just borrows/spends a lot of money.)

Buying a laptop or desktop computer (I don't care how much it cost) just isn't a status symbol. It merely says: you borrowed/spent money and bought a laptop or a desktop. Whoopidy.

A phone or tablet? Forget it, even less of a 'status symbol' and looks even sillier if a person is ever acting as if they think it is. An MP3/media player? Beyond silly.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:10 PM   #20
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A phone isn't a high end status symbol but having the latest technology is obviously part of what many people want. If the idea of a status symbol is to convey that you are doing well financially then I can see why people would want to have an iPhone and a Macbook instead of a $500 laptop and a flip phone. Kool kids at school have Retina Macbooks, whether they have money or not I'm envious of their laptops and that may well factor into why they bought one.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:39 PM   #21
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Apple owners will always carry with them the 'douchebag' stigma so no need to worry about that going away any time soon

For the record, I own a Macbook Pro and a couple of iPod Touches (I have claimed on this forum before that I'm the #1 iPod Touch fan in the whole world) and if Apple ever got to their senses and ditched the US carriers and sell the iPhones direct to customers factory unlocked on release day, I'll get one as well. So I'm definitely one of these DBs and I don't care
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:10 PM   #22
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I don't know about status symbol but people sure are dumb enough to pay a premium even if its used, so i buy an ipad/iphone/macbook in the USA, whenever i go to asia or europe i can sell it for the same price i paid after using it for 9-12 months, then with that money i'll just buy the latest generation and i rinse and repeat.
It just makes me so happy that i get to use the latest and the greatest fashion and status symbol in electronics for free because there are plenty of people ready to pay my asking price whenever i want to upgrade
I however get the opposite reaction with my android devices, don't get me wrong they are cool and everything but once you are ready to wave them good bye, it becomes a buyer's market.
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Not in the UK. Samsung is unfortunately gaining a foothold, I'll only buy their televisions, but Apple is still going from strength to strength and I can see this continuing for years to come.
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Not in the UK. Samsung is unfortunately gaining a foothold, I'll only buy their televisions, but Apple is still going from strength to strength and I can see this continuing for years to come.
Curious, but why is this unfortunate? Wouldn't you want to have more competition?

I'm an Android fan and I greatly prefer it over the other mobile OSes, but I sure would not want Android to have complete control of the market. Competition brings out the best in us, and really pushes for more innovation.
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Curious, but why is this unfortunate? Wouldn't you want to have more competition?

I'm an Android fan and I greatly prefer it over the other mobile OSes, but I sure would not want Android to have complete control of the market. Competition brings out the best in us, and really pushes for more innovation.
I just dislike them, don't like how they feel, I also agree that they have copied Apple in numerous areas. Just my personal opinion, I'm an HTC owner though, although they've dropped hugely in popularity since the desire series.
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