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Old 12-10-2012, 11:07 PM   #1
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Default Tahiti Le finally launched

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C...ard_Tahiti_LE/

The first review I found. Didn't read it yet. Based on specs it seems like a great value.
Update: Maybe I was too enthusiastic if 7950 is just 40$ more expensive.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:34 PM   #2
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C...ard_Tahiti_LE/

The first review I found. Didn't read it yet. Based on specs it seems like a great value.
Update: Maybe I was too enthusiastic if 7950 is just 40$ more expensive.
I think this card is going to be a meh. Almost by definition it's going to need to be made on budget designs, like the base 7950 model. I'd pay extra just for the improved coolers and PCB's used with a lot of 7950's.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:07 AM   #3
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This card performs very close to a stock non-boost 7950, sometimes it's faster, on average it's just 2% slower then a 7950 at 1920x1080 so it is a great value for people who don't OC. Both cards reach similar clocks when overclocked so a 7950 is a better choice for people who want to OC their cards, since it has lower stock clocks so the gains from overclocking will be greater.Still, most people don't OC, so it's a great value for the majority of people. Basically it has the same performance as the original 7950 non-boost for 40$ less.


Best card for people who want to have a reasonably fast card for a reasonable price and who don't like to tinker with it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:02 AM   #4
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Hm. Confusing as heck that AMD simply named it the "Radeon HD 7870". Should have been 7930. Could have even been 7890. Similar names have been used. But 7870? Hey, AMD, you already used that name!

As for the card itself, this seems like AMD's direct response to the 660 Ti. The 660 Ti generally beat the 7870 (original, argh) with some losses, while it generally lost to the 7950 with some wins. This is a further neutered Tahiti like 660 Ti is a neutered GK104 -- the thing is, their strengths are swapped. The 660 Ti is memory bandwidth strapped with plenty of excess shader power while the 7870 (new one argh) has plenty of bandwidth (6 GHz on a 256 MHz bus) but maybe not so much raw shading power.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:46 AM   #5
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I'm not sure why they do this with naming schemes. I agree it should have been a 7900 model. Especially considering the confusion that could be caused if someone bought one of these to crossfire with another 7800 card.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:54 AM   #6
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Yeah should have been 7930.

Looks like a great card too if you arent too bothered about power consumption, shame a lot of people wont be able to tell it apart from a regular 7870... AMD suck hard sometimes.
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that's quite bad...
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:27 AM   #8
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This card would have been interesting if it was released half a year ago. It looks like it was made so that AMD can say that 7870 is faster than 660 and 7870LE is faster than 660Ti. The 660Ti was major disappointment, and this card is simply too late to the party, so thanks but no thanks.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:01 AM   #9
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Isn't this a good sign that AMD is in it's last stage of the 7xxx series and are trying to sell out every chip so that it will be ready for the 8xxx series soon?
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:49 AM   #10
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Isn't this a good sign that AMD is in it's last stage of the 7xxx series and are trying to sell out every chip so that it will be ready for the 8xxx series soon?
That or yields haven't really gotten that much better and they have a bunch of Tahiti chips that couldn't pass as 7950s or 7970s just sitting around.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:00 AM   #11
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Aint it just "creative" marketing to call it 7870? Then you can show off 7870 cards to be better than they are a hope for higher sales.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:02 AM   #12
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Aint it just "creative" marketing to call it 7870? Then you can show off 7870 cards to be better than they are a hope for higher sales.
Yes, they are learning marketing tricks from Nvidia
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:22 AM   #13
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It's more surprising they called it the 7870 because 12 months ago or so, when the initial rumours were around, it was the 7890.
And in June it was the 7930.

The fact they are only releasing it now indicates yields actually are NOT that bad, and it's taken time to build up stocks.

Compare the release dates of the HD5830 to the release date of the GTX560 448. One was at the start of life, indicating poor yields, one was nearer EOL, indicating stockpiles had been built up.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:34 AM   #14
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Maybe the oddly named LE is because they people responsible for it priced it only $25 more to kill the 7870 and replace it. They might think that the 7870 is superfluous when the sub $200 7850 is too close in performance.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:54 AM   #15
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I would guess this won't work in crossfire with the 7800 series,they should've named it a 7930
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Yes, they are learning marketing tricks from Nvidia
LOL

" AMD finally decided not to make a reference-design card which left the decision to its partners, most of whom decided against releasing the SKU so as not to disturb their swelling HD 7870 GHz Edition and HD 7950 inventories. To make matters worse, AMD chose the brilliant SKU name of "Radeon HD 7870."

Adding "LE" which, everyone knows stands for "crap", despite card being faster than 7870. I'd fire the genius who came up with name "7870 jokerCard Tahiti LE".

This will probably be similarly to HD6930, a low-volume card for China/Russia market (another mind-blowing concept from AMD) that won't even cover the cost of packaging.
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" AMD finally decided not to make a reference-design card which left the decision to its partners, most of whom decided against releasing the SKU so as not to disturb their swelling HD 7870 GHz Edition and HD 7950 inventories. To make matters worse, AMD chose the brilliant SKU name of "Radeon HD 7870."

Adding "LE" which, everyone knows stands for "crap", despite card being faster than 7870. I'd fire the genius who came up with name "7870 jokerCard Tahiti LE".

This will probably be similarly to HD6930, a low-volume card for China/Russia market (another mind-blowing concept from AMD) that won't even cover the cost of packaging.
I fail to see how this has anything to do with my earlier post.
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Adding "LE" which, everyone knows stands for "crap",

While I agree with the "LE" and what your definition of it means...if that is the case, and I believe it as well...then what is the deal with this card ?

GTX 680 FTW LE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130800&Tpk=GTX%20680%20 le

Not trying to start anything here, Just curious as to why a card such as a GTX 680 would have a "LE" label.

I've been debating for several weeks now what GPU to upgrade to in January. I've been looking at the HD 7870, But I dont think I like the Club 3D brand.
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Not trying to start anything here, Just curious as to why a card such as a GTX 680 would have a "LE" label.
Unlike the AMD chip, which denotes LE in the chip name, the GTX 680 FTW LE edition is a lower-clocked FTW edition. Just guessing here, but it looks like a stock-clocked GTX 680 with the FTW cooler on it.
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Unlike the AMD chip, which denotes LE in the chip name, the GTX 680 FTW LE edition is a lower-clocked FTW edition. Just guessing here, but it looks like a stock-clocked GTX 680 with the FTW cooler on it.
Kind of appears that you are correct. Got to love the "one" feedback for that card though. He marks his tech level as "high" then goes on to say its roughly equal to a GTX 580.

Comment: It runs on the same level as a gtx580 at stock and cannot overclock any. it just jumps up to 267% power limit and crashes.


I think the new 7870 should be a 7890 at least. But my choice is from a 7870 / 7950 / 660 Ti. Then this card sits in the middle of those.

EDIT: Unless the specs are wrong, the LE 680 has a 200 mhz higher memory frequency and a 2 + 8 pin connector. The "base" 680 has 2 x 6 pin connectors. All else being the same.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006662&IsNodeI d=1&Description=evga%20gtx%20680&bop=And&CompareIt emList=-1%7C14-130-800%5E14-130-800-TS%2C14-130-798%5E14-130-798-TS%2C14-130-768%5E14-130-768-TS
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:01 PM   #21
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If it overclocks to 1210mhz, I wonder how well it undervolts...
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