Ubuntu and Mint 12 Internet Slow

eternalone · 01-28-2012, 11:20 PM

Anyone have issues with slow internet after upgrading to Mint 12 and Ubuntu??

IGemini · 01-29-2012, 01:38 PM

VinDSL · 01-29-2012, 11:41 PM

No, but I don't use network-manager (the default connection manager). I use Wicd.

Also, if you're on a DSL connection, make sure to set the MTU to 1492.

MrColin · 01-30-2012, 11:09 AM

there might be a misconfigured/buggy app soaking up your bandwidth in the background. I've experienced this with the ubuntuone client in the past.

eternalone · 01-31-2012, 08:43 AM

Actually I found the problem is that the Realtek NIC driver r8169 is dropping packets on linux ubuntu and fedora on AM3+ motherboards that use the Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller. So to fix it you have to black list r8169 and load r8168 instead. Instructions are here for anyone having this similar problem.

http://www.foxhop.net/realtek-droppi...ntu-and-fedora

Ubuntu Discussion Thread on the problem:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860197

lxskllr · 01-31-2012, 09:08 AM

Thanks for the update. It's a dick move when someone fixes their problem, and doesn't update the thread :^)

janas19 · 01-31-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lxskllr

Thanks for the update. It's a dick move when someone fixes their problem, and doesn't update the thread :^)

True.

lxskllr · 01-31-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by janas19

True.

Even worse is when they update the thread with "nvm, I fixed it", and don't say how. That's not very helpful to people that come via the great Google.

janas19 · 01-31-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lxskllr

Even worse is when they update the thread with "nvm, I fixed it", and don't say how. That's not very helpful to people that come via the great Google.

You a developer?

lxskllr · 01-31-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by janas19

You a developer?

No, just a sometimes frustrated GNU/Linux user :^D

Sometimes the pickings are slim when looking for an obscure problem, or one that has difficult search terms. It's extremely frustrating when you finally find an old post of the EXACT issue you have with no solution provided, other than an "I fixed it" as the last post :bangs head:

janas19 · 01-31-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lxskllr

No, just a sometimes frustrated GNU/Linux user :^D

Sometimes the pickings are slim when looking for an obscure problem, or one that has difficult search terms. It's extremely frustrating when you finally find an old post of the EXACT issue you have with no solution provided, other than an "I fixed it" as the last post :bangs head:

Nice!

I'm just getting into Linux/GNU myself.

Is there any distro that you prefer above others?

lxskllr · 01-31-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by janas19

Nice!

I'm just getting into Linux/GNU myself.

Is there any distro that you prefer above others?

Probably Debian. I've tried a bunch, and like the way Debian, and its derivatives do things. I'm currently running Ubuntu 10.04, and will upgrade this April when 12.04 is released. I don't care for Unity, but will give it one more try, and then I'll likely install the Xfce desktop. If that goes well, I'll have a decision to make. Stick with that, or wipe it and install Debian. If something goes wrong during the upgrade, I'll definitely install Debian.

janas19 · 01-31-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lxskllr

Probably Debian. I've tried a bunch, and like the way Debian, and its derivatives do things. I'm currently running Ubuntu 10.04, and will upgrade this April when 12.04 is released. I don't care for Unity, but will give it one more try, and then I'll likely install the Xfce desktop. If that goes well, I'll have a decision to make. Stick with that, or wipe it and install Debian. If something goes wrong during the upgrade, I'll definitely install Debian.

Thanks! I knew of Debian, seems like it is recommended. I didn't know about Xfce though! I'll have to check that one out, for sure.

Thanks man. :thumbup:

lxskllr · 01-31-2012, 10:54 AM

If you're very new to GNU/Linux, you might want to consider Xubuntu rather than Debian. Debian isn't particularly difficult, but it does require a little more tweaking OOTB. Xubuntu would give you a similar experience, but with less initial work. You'd be able to get up and running right away, and learn how to maintain a GNU/Linux system without being dropped in the deep end right away.

I've likened it to playing bagpipes. All the bits of playing pipes are easy, but when you put it all together it gets a little difficult. Having some help at the start might make the experience more pleasant for you. A lot of that depends on your personal outlook though, and how much time your willing to put in at the start. *buntus are like Debian training wheels. They keep you up so you can concentrate on going forward :^)

eternalone · 01-31-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lxskllr

Thanks for the update. It's a dick move when someone fixes their problem, and doesn't update the thread :^)

Yeah no problem, I also hate when they do that, as Im a relative noob to linux but not as noob as I was when I first installed my first distro. Im actually not very happy with the latest update to Mint because Gnome 3 is noticeably slower than Gnome 2 so I downgraded to Mint 10 as it more balanced for my personal preference. Also still dont like unity either, these are all my personal prefrences but if Unity gets better in the future I might change my mind. Hopefully they speed up Gnome 3 also because I like Gnome.

stinkycheese · 01-31-2012, 08:52 PM

This thread helped me out. I downloaded the latest driver (8.027.00) from Realtek instead of the version mentioned in the foxhop post: http://www.realtek.com/downloads/dow...etDown=false#2

worshipAllah · 12-10-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eternalone

Anyone have issues with slow internet after upgrading to Mint 12 and Ubuntu??

This reply may be late, but better late than never.

Slow internet and download speeds? Maybe try this.

I was Running Mint 14 and the internet has been desperately slow(!). I disabled Java and pictures and pages were taking minutes to upload. (Not kidding) I searched a lot online only to find that the answers were focusing on this or that, but the problem wasn't getting fixed. (Except someone said that it stopped when they changed the router).

I almost gave up and installed Windows. I wouldn't give up easy, but if you look online you'll find complaints about this in Ubuntu and Linux Mint that are very old and many of them. Some people were getting very technical and it wasn't helping them. I tried disabling the IPv6. I tried changing the Firefox setting for attack sites. I tried installing the pnsd (it's still installed). Nothing. I found the driver for this particular Athenos model and installed the .inf file through the Windows Wireless Drivers tool, it installed. Still nothing. The internet was hardly coughing up text.

Then I read on some forum that Athenos is particularly problematic. That's what I have for wifi. Also a recommendation to use the program wicd and that it's better for wifi than the standard Network Manager that comes with Mint. I installed wicd through the Software Manager (it took a while to download) and after toggling the Properties and changing it to WPA1/2 (passphrase) and some refreshing... it worked!!!

I just opened youtube.com and amazingly everything was downloading as normal. Alhamdulillah. Anyways, I signed up here on this forum just in case anyone has the same problem. I'm running an Emachines e527. I hope that this benefits someone who may encounter a similar problem.

VinDSL · 12-10-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by worshipAllah

Also a recommendation to use the program wicd and that it's better for wifi than the standard Network Manager that comes with Mint. I installed wicd through the Software Manager (it took a while to download) and after toggling the Properties and changing it to WPA1/2 (passphrase) and some refreshing... it worked!!!

Wicd rulez!!!

EDIT

BTW, I should mention, you cannot run two connection managers, at the same time.

If you decide to replace NM with Wicd...

Download Wicd first (no connection, after next step)
Purge network-manager
Install Wicd

If you decide to switch back to NM...

Download network-manager first (remember, no connection)
Purge Wicd
Install network-manager

Simple pimple!

Might need to restart between this n' that step -- haven't done it in a while.

jimmybgood9 · 12-11-2012, 01:27 AM

Proper in kernel support for the RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller was added in linux kernel 3.2 by the r8169.ko module. So Mint 13 and later and Ubuntu 12.04 and later do not need the work around mentioned in this thread.

I just threw this in, because so frequently I and, I imagine, many other people google for problems and find loads of solutions that no longer apply.

One of my pet peeves is people who respond to questions and problems by telling the OP to "google for it." Well, that's what I try to do, but all the good answers are hidden by pages of "google for it" posts. The best thing to do when somebody asks a question that you consider obvious or easy to search for is to ignore it. The next best thing is to list some links with the answer. The worst is to bring attention to the post without providing an answer.

Albatross · 12-12-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lxskllr

Thanks for the update. It's a dick move when someone fixes their problem, and doesn't update the thread :^)

lemon8h8ead · 12-12-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lxskllr

If you're very new to GNU/Linux, you might want to consider Xubuntu rather than Debian ... :^)

Amen, brother. I am a bit ticked off at the Ubuntu.com project for force feeding us Unity on installation for the last couple of releases. There should be choices, IMO.

Xubuntu.org (12.10, Quantal Quetzal) is definitely my cup of tea. Simple, light, no bloat, and productive. Adding Gnome or KDE features is easy.