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12-06-2012, 01:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SheHateMe
"Made in America.......by illegal immigrants who make $3/hr"
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They are not illegal. They are just undocumented workers. Huge difference!
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12-06-2012, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt1970
Still waiting for one of those facts...
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Go back and reread our conversation.
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12-06-2012, 01:57 PM
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I nominate Ford Heights, IL as location for one of these Apple 'Made in USA' assembly points. That town can certainly use the work...
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12-06-2012, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ausm
Go back and reread our conversation.
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I did. I see a sniveling little fucker who feels he should critique everything I post. When you see me post something inaccurate, you are welcome to speak up, until then shut up.
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12-06-2012, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SheHateMe
"Made in America.......by illegal immigrants who make $3/hr"
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I am going to guess that Apple won't be using illegal immigrants.
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12-06-2012, 02:17 PM
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id rather have "made in china" at a lower price than "made in america". i suspect most intelligent people would feel the same way
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12-06-2012, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OBLAMA2009
id rather have "made in china" at a lower price than "made in america". i suspect most intelligent people would feel the same way
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Then don't complain about jobs being shipped overseas.
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12-06-2012, 03:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airdata
May as well.
They already price them as if they were made by people making an honest wage.
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Originally Posted by hal2kilo
Probably because they've got the assembly so automated that they just need to employ people to load parts on the front end and load packaged macs onto trucks on the back end. Probably don't even need to have lights on in the main manufacturing facility.
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Probably, but $10/hour screwdriver plant jobs are better than no jobs.
Chuck Harder used to say the factory of the future will have two employees, a man and a dog. The man's job is to feed the dog, and the dog's job is to keep the man from touching anything. Still, this is progress, how a society gains wealth. Outsourcing these jobs (no matter how they are done) is how a society loses wealth.
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12-06-2012, 03:53 PM
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Lenovo is doing the same, but they are open that it will be a small facility in NC to handle customers with unusually long lead times to product...who knows what scale apple is talking of, I am betting production numbers will be small compared to their overseas operation.
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Last edited by bozack; 12-06-2012 at 03:55 PM.
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12-06-2012, 03:56 PM
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A lot of manufacturing in the US is now so high tech that relative to the amount of product made the jobs are very few.
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If the children or other family members will have access to the gun then they should be interrogated too.
We can also use teachers to enforce these rules, they can ask their students to be honest and if mommy and daddy are in violation of these rules.
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12-06-2012, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doppel
A lot of manufacturing in the US is now so high tech that relative to the amount of product made the jobs are very few.
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Those with capital will retain even more of their capital. Looks bad for the average working stiff. Won't even have work houses for them. I know, they'll go back to school and get a degree in programming, or astral physics. Then they won't be losers ( I mean takers) anymore.
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12-06-2012, 04:55 PM
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I kind of laughed when I saw part of his interview this morning... he said something along the lines of "Parts of the iPhone is already made in the US! Like the CPU!".... LOL that cracked me up. You mean the CPU Samsung makes not Apple? But on topic, props to Apple for doing something like this.
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12-06-2012, 05:21 PM
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Lifer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt1970
I did. I see a sniveling little fucker who feels he should critique everything I post. When you see me post something inaccurate, you are welcome to speak up, until then shut up.
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Lol when did you grow a pair?
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12-06-2012, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ausm
Lol when did you grow a pair?
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why don't you two both get a room rather than pissing around in this thread?
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12-06-2012, 06:54 PM
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I can't stand Apple, but I can put aside my contempt to be glad for this announcement.
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12-06-2012, 07:13 PM
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More jobs for Americans is a good thing but the regulations still need to be cut which hurt businesses and prevent more jobs
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12-06-2012, 07:36 PM
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Good for Apple. This is great and a leadership role for them, I hope they get lots of good play on this. The jobs don't have to be million dollar jobs, there was a decision here to creat some American jobs here that could be done for less outside the country. Even if it were for pr, which it doesn't sound like, it still has backbone and is already in affect... Not just words.
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12-06-2012, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incorruptible
More jobs for Americans is a good thing but the regulations still need to be cut which hurt businesses and prevent more jobs
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The minimum wage regulation?
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12-06-2012, 08:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dank69
Sounds like a lot of minimum wage jobs.
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jobs are jobs. beats No jobs.
Any honest job is a respectable job.
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12-06-2012, 10:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bozack
Lenovo is doing the same, but they are open that it will be a small facility in NC to handle customers with unusually long lead times to product...who knows what scale apple is talking of, I am betting production numbers will be small compared to their overseas operation.
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That facility has been open for a few years now... They are just adding more volume. I think it is more impressive that Lenovo, a Chinese company has been the only one doing it here since Dell closed it's final assembly hub in Winston-Salem.
Final assembly is mostly BS... Final assembly means memory and drive... That is pretty much it. This is strictly a PR move for Apple.
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12-06-2012, 10:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpeyton
The minimum wage regulation?
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Yes I am against the minimum wage and I have stated this before
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12-06-2012, 10:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doppel
A lot of manufacturing in the US is now so high tech that relative to the amount of product made the jobs are very few.
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This is pretty true, but as incomes rise overseas some of these jobs will come home as the benefits of overseas labor diminish. It's not all doom and gloom, we just have to make sure the US continues to produce competitive workers and remains very good place to do business.
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12-06-2012, 11:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwjerome
This is pretty true, but as incomes rise overseas some of these jobs will come home as the benefits of overseas labor diminish. It's not all doom and gloom, we just have to make sure the US continues to produce competitive workers and remains very good place to do business.
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do you really think americans are going to live i dorms, eat cafeteria food, and work 16 hour shifts 7 days a week for $100 a month in order to make your ipads? they arent. if you even axed lazy axe americans to make you an ipad their union would call a strike. look at what happened to hostess. they destroyed that company for being asked to watch cupcakes bake. that is why those jobs BELONG overseas. its the best thing for the corporation, for americans consumers and for whoever has to do the work. anyone with any sense ought to be demanding "made in china/mexico etc..."
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12-06-2012, 11:07 PM
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I don't think the price of a mac will be the issue.
Not for those that buy mac's.
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12-06-2012, 11:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OBLAMA2009
do you really think americans are going to live i dorms, eat cafeteria food, and work 16 hour shifts 7 days a week for $100 a month in order to make your ipads? they arent. if you even axed lazy axe americans to make you an ipad their union would call a strike. look at what happened to hostess. they destroyed that company for being asked to watch cupcakes bake. that is why those jobs BELONG overseas. its the best thing for the corporation, for americans consumers and for whoever has to do the work. anyone with any sense ought to be demanding "made in china/mexico etc..."
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I think there could be plenty of medium skilled blue and white collar jobs that may be trickling back to the US over time.
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