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12-06-2012, 11:28 AM
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T-Mobile officially getting the iPhone - as in Selling Directly
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12-06-2012, 11:56 AM
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Lifer
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Finally, this will definitely help them out. It's really hurt them not having the iPhone for all this time.
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12-06-2012, 11:59 AM
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Lifer
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Nice, hopefully they keep w/ it. It'll definitely help them.
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12-06-2012, 12:03 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2001
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It's about time. I still know a lot of people jailbroken on Tmobile, and they cant wait to switch.
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12-06-2012, 01:07 PM
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This is bad news for all current non-iPhone wielding T-Mobile customers. Hopefully their network and prices don't take a hit.
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12-06-2012, 01:14 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Jun 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Storm
This is bad news for all current non-iPhone wielding T-Mobile customers. Hopefully their network and prices don't take a hit.
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This. Hopefully it doesn't result in TMO killing their unthrottled/unlimited plans.
Figured this was only a matter of time after they got the spectrum from AT&T though. Also, hopefully, they didn't sell of both testicles and their first born like Sprint did. 
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12-06-2012, 01:18 PM
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I really wish TMobile would come forward with some sort of timetable for refarming 1900mhz to HSPA in various markets. Even if they said 'We're not going to do x market or y market because it's too expensive, etc, etc', at least we'd know.
Sprint's been very open with it's network restructuring. I wish TMo would take a page out of the book.
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12-06-2012, 01:22 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA
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are they going to get an AWS version of the iPhone or what? I know they're refarming, but it's not a done deal yet.
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12-06-2012, 02:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DLeRium
are they going to get an AWS version of the iPhone or what? I know they're refarming, but it's not a done deal yet.
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My guess is it'll just be existing iPhones on T-Mobile's refarmed network. And I'm also guessing this might be later 2013, but I get the impression T-Mobile still has a lot of work to do to get ready for the iPhone.
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12-06-2012, 02:07 PM
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I don't want an iPhone. But the good news to me as a T-Mobile customer is that I should be able to use a lot more Android phones that were previously only worked on AT&T in the US.
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12-06-2012, 03:18 PM
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I thought T mobile was a GSM carrier?
I understand there is still a CDMA networks in the USA but what stops you using any GSM device with any SIM card? Or is it hard to find GSM iphones in the states?
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12-06-2012, 03:23 PM
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Lifer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rumpleforeskin
I thought T mobile was a GSM carrier?
I understand there is still a CDMA networks in the USA but what stops you using any GSM device with any SIM card? Or is it hard to find GSM iphones in the states?
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T-Mo uses AWS bands for 3g/HSPA (1700/2100MHz). US iPhones use AT&T 3g/HSPA bands (850/1900MHz). Until recently, you had to jailbreak to use an iPhone and it would be limited to only 2g service.
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12-06-2012, 03:25 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA
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Gonna be tough to sell:
- Hey we got an iPhone! But it's only good on 2G!
- Hey we got an iPhone but it depends on our refarmed 3G, so not everywhere will be functioning 3G/4G.
If they just sell it outright like they do on AT&T and Verizon, I think people will be pissed that it's only half working
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12-06-2012, 03:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rumpleforeskin
I thought T mobile was a GSM carrier?
I understand there is still a CDMA networks in the USA but what stops you using any GSM device with any SIM card? Or is it hard to find GSM iphones in the states?
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They are, and the iPhones have worked on T-Mobile since the original iPhone came out on GSM/EDGE - I had my original 4GB iPhone working on T-Mobile in Sept. of 2007. But T-Mobile's 3G service is on the AWS bands ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Wireless_Services) which are at ~1700MHz and are not a band supported by very many 3G phones.
T-Mobile has been relocating their AWS 3G from AWS to PCS (~1900MHz) which puts them onto a more internationally used 3G band and they plan to complete this by 2013 to make room for LTE on AWS. Once they are on PCS, then they are supported by the iPhone.
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12-06-2012, 03:29 PM
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So much for unlimited -- and their bargain plans.
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12-06-2012, 03:33 PM
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Lifer
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12-06-2012, 03:39 PM
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Tmobile will have all of their aws markets refarmed by mid 2013 or so they say. This means all of their markets will be ready for the iPhone by then probably. There won't be an aws iPhone. Aws will be used for lte.
My readings have suggested this.
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12-06-2012, 03:40 PM
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Huh -- looks like NYC has been mostly refarmed already. I should try popping a T-Mo sim into my old Captivate.
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12-06-2012, 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ImDonly1
Tmobile will have all of their aws markets refarmed by mid 2013 or so they say. This means all of their markets will be ready for the iPhone by then probably. There won't be an aws iPhone. Aws will be used for lte.
My readings have suggested this.
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I don't think there will be a AWS HSPA iPhone, but the iPhone 5 already supports AWS for LTE.
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12-06-2012, 04:40 PM
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I hope they don't get screwed by Apple like Sprint did.
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12-06-2012, 04:52 PM
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Good for t-mobile. Maybe when Apple comes to it's senses and release a larger iPhone I can get it from T-mobile.
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12-06-2012, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ImDonly1
Tmobile will have all of their aws markets refarmed by mid 2013 or so they say. This means all of their markets will be ready for the iPhone by then probably. There won't be an aws iPhone. Aws will be used for lte.
My readings have suggested this.
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Yeah, this make the most sense.
Since T-mobile won't sell the iPhones until 2013, it gives them time to refarm a lot of the major markets and Apple don't have to add the 1700mhz band to their phones.
I'm starting to get 3G on my unlocked iPhones in Orlando.
It wouldn't make sense for T-mobile to spend all the money and effort to refarm and only to have a 1700mhz iPhone.
I won't be getting a IP5 though.
Its a beautiful designed phone but the oblong shape is a deal breaker.
I'm waiting for something revolutionary from Apple like doubling the 960x640 to 1920x1280.
A 4.3" or even 4.5" 1920x1280 3:2 ratio iPhone ??? Thats something I would buy.
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12-06-2012, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by zerogear
I hope they don't get screwed by Apple like Sprint did.
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It's the last carrier in the US for Apple to exploit....I'd hope T-Mobile realizes this during negotiations. I see no reason to do a sell your soul for the right to sell iPhones.
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12-06-2012, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnyD
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On other news, according to Slashgear, T-Mobile will stop offering subsidized phones in 2013, so you have pay full price. However, they'll also introduce value plans that are much cheaper than current plans.
Last edited by khha4113; 12-06-2012 at 06:50 PM.
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12-06-2012, 06:56 PM
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Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2001
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Plus, T-Mobile said that 80% of its activations last quarter were for Value Plans, which suggests people are actually into those plans the most.
Sounds like a rather narrow sighted view; part of the reason for this is the parent company saying they wanted to dump you and the unknown results from the new merger. Unless value plan prices become substantially cheaper, and will full service not limited text or data like many are, I don't see this going well if all the other main carriers continue status quo.
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