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Old 11-22-2012, 11:05 PM   #1
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Default So is there a way for an illegal immigrant to get citizenship and stay in the country

Call me ignorant, but if someone was here illegally, either brought here or they chose to come here, can they get citizenship without having to leave the country?
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:08 PM   #2
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigra...ol_Act_of_1986

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Old 11-22-2012, 11:25 PM   #3
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they can marry an American and get citizenship in ~3 years... or just have a baby born in US
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:31 PM   #4
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how much is US citizenship worth if you had to put a price on it?
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:02 AM   #5
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how much is US citizenship worth if you had to put a price on it?
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:12 AM   #6
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Yes, there are many ways an illegal person can get a citizenship.
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:12 AM   #7
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they can marry an American and get citizenship in ~3 years... or just have a baby born in US
Not that hard considering you can knock up any drunk white girl at any bar on the weekends and become a citizen.
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:27 AM   #8
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Not legally or morally no.
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Not legally or morally no.
Not sure if I should lol or just .
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:05 AM   #10
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:11 AM   #11
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they can marry an American and get citizenship in ~3 years... or just have a baby born in US
Marriage may work, but chances are that they will have to leave the country to adjust their visa status and depending on how they originally entered the US (overstayed visa vs illegal entry) and how long they've been in the country illegally they may be barred from reentry for 10years. They can petition to get an exemption but that's very hit or miss.

The baby can't sponsor anyone until they are 21. It might it less likely that the parents will be deported but it won't grant them citizenship. And they will probably still face the 10year ban.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:13 AM   #12
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Marriage may work, but chances are that they will have to leave the country to adjust their visa status and depending on how they originally entered the US (overstayed visa vs illegal entry) and how long they've been in the country illegally they may be barred from reentry for 10years. They can petition to get an exemption but that's very hit or miss.

The baby can't sponsor anyone until they are 21. It might it less likely that the parents will be deported but it won't grant them citizenship. And they will probably still face the 10year ban.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:16 AM   #13
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I knew someone who married a citizen and 3 years into the marriage still hadn't gotten citizenship. With everything that's going on, it's no shock that it's getting more difficult to get citizenship.
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I knew someone who married a citizen and 3 years into the marriage still hadn't gotten citizenship. With everything that's going on, it's no shock that it's getting more difficult to get citizenship.
3.5 years is about the absolute minimum that it would take if they sent in the documents as soon as they were able and there were no issues.

It takes about 6months to receive provisional permanent residency from when you submit.
Then after 2 years you have it adjusted to a regular permanent residency.
Then 90 days prior to the 3years from when the provisional permanent residency was granted they can apply from naturalization.
Naturalization process will probably take about 3-6 months.

This is a huge improvement from the mid-2000s, when INS was backlogged and taking up to 2-3years or more at each step.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:44 AM   #15
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To be fair most citizens will never have to deal with the mess that is USCIS or immigration laws so it's not surprising. Even immigrants don't have to deal with them once they become citizens (other than if they were sponsoring family members).

I have a greencard but I got it through my dad when I was little so I never really paid attention to immigration issues until I had to get visas to work overseas.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:00 AM   #16
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If they entered the country illegally, then it isn't possible without a pardon.
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To be fair most citizens will never have to deal with the mess that is USCIS or immigration laws so it's not surprising. Even immigrants don't have to deal with them once they become citizens (other than if they were sponsoring family members).

I have a greencard but I got it through my dad when I was little so I never really paid attention to immigration issues until I had to get visas to work overseas.
I got bored and started reading about all the different Visas that the US has and different levels of citizenship. They had pretty much every single circumstance broken down into its own visa. They also had the answer to OP's question in big bold letters. "You would have to leave and enter legally." Which is the correct answer IMHO.

There should be no reward for breaking the law. And because it is law, it damn sure should have a penalty.
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There should be no reward for breaking the law. And because it is law, it damn sure should have a penalty.
We have places like LA where they won't impound unlicensed drivers cars because it unfairly targets illegals even though it goes against California State law.
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We have places like LA where they won't impound unlicensed drivers cars because it unfairly targets illegals even though it goes against California State law.
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We have places like LA where they won't impound unlicensed drivers cars because it unfairly targets illegals even though it goes against California State law.
And this is why California should be sawed off and allowed to float away
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Don't get caught. Going after illegal aliens is considered profiling and discrimination. So it's easy for illegal aliens to stay in this country.
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Regarding this, I wonder: can a foreigner open a company in US? Or a US citizen is required as owner?
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There should be no reward for breaking the law. And because it is law, it damn sure should have a penalty.
And yet, we penalize people who ARE trying to enter legally by making the process long, complicated, expensive, and difficult. Why? Because we already have plenty of illegal immigrants, so we're trying to stem the tide by issuing fewer visas...thus further incentivizing the illegal route.
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And yet, we penalize people who ARE trying to enter legally by making the process long, complicated, expensive, and difficult. Why? Because we already have plenty of illegal immigrants, so we're trying to stem the tide by issuing fewer visas...thus further incentivizing the illegal route.
I don't think I have ever heard the government was trying to slow down legal immigration because of illegal immigration.
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