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Old 11-18-2012, 12:54 PM   #151
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Qualification for 6 months???

Where do you get that? It was less than a year between the release of the 830 and the 840 Pro, so I doubt there was time for 6 months of qualification testing on the 840 Pro. At least not on the final version.

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Samsung here. They should at least have spent a week running some heavy-duty write tests on the SSDs before sending them out to reviewers. That would have almost surely caught this bug.

But I don't see how 6 months of qualification testing on a "release candidate" product is realistic with the SSD market as it is today.
840 PRO was in development for quite awhile, as is with all new things.
I wouldn't be shocked to see that the 840 was in R&D at least a year now. The whole point of labeling something "Pro" for the enterprise users is that it has been put through the ringer *before* the final product has been shipped, and companies pay a premium for that level of service. In short, you don't mess with enterprise level qualifications.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:58 PM   #152
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840 PRO was in development for quite awhile, as is with all new things.
I wouldn't be shocked to see that the 840 was in R&D at least a year now. The whole point of labeling something "Pro" for the enterprise users is that it has been put through the ringer *before* the final product has been shipped, and companies pay a premium for that level of service. In short, you don't mess with enterprise level qualifications.
The 840 Pro is NOT an enterprise product. Samsung has SSDs specifically for the Enterprise market, and the 840 Pro is not one of them. The 840 Pro is a consumer product, albeit "prosumer" or "enthusiast" type consumers.

I don't think you understand the consumer SSD market. At the pace it is moving, there is definitely no time to do 6 months of testing on a final product. Sure, a product may be in development for a year, but it is frequently changing during that time. Once the final prototype is ready for testing, 6 months is unrealistic. My impression is that 1 month is typical or perhaps optimistic.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:06 PM   #153
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Could of swore I read the 840 PRO was for enterprise. If not, whoops!
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:50 PM   #154
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Could of swore I read the 840 PRO was for enterprise. If not, whoops!
SM843 is the enterprise version of the 840 Pro.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:29 PM   #155
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Kristian will you be reviewing the SM843? Samsung's enterprise drives haven't made it on AT yet.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:46 PM   #156
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Looks like everyone will have to ditch the 840 pro until the 900 series comes out or something.
That makes no sense. Please don't post in this thread anymore.
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I don't think you understand the consumer SSD market. At the pace it is moving, there is definitely no time to do 6 months of testing on a final product. Sure, a product may be in development for a year, but it is frequently changing during that time. Once the final prototype is ready for testing, 6 months is unrealistic. My impression is that 1 month is typical or perhaps optimistic.
You're assuming development is serial in nature...The 840 was developed after the 830 was done. That's not necessarily true.
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You're assuming development is serial in nature...
No, I am NOT assuming development on successive products stalls until previous products are fully developed. Nowhere did I state any such thing. I'm not sure why you are confused about this.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:18 PM   #160
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Only going by price...I got myself a Samsung 830 256GB for $189AU last week. Will be using it as my Games drive.
The 840 Pro 256gb is selling for $275AU almost $100 more. hmmm
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:35 PM   #162
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Hi all.
I'm following this forum for a while 'cause tomorrow I should receive 1 840 Pro 256GB.
Would be interesting to know if someone received it with the DXM02B0Q firmware on.
Also those with the new FW DXM03B0Q, did you experienced issues?
Tomorrow I'll post some informations about it and first impresssions... if you want
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:52 PM   #163
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Has anyone performed the same tests on a FW DXM03B0Q drive that were performed on the drives that died?
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:39 PM   #164
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So the 840 is Samsung's SSD equivalent of the Spinpoint F4?
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So the 840 is Samsung's SSD equivalent of the Spinpoint F4?
Looks like it... until we hear otherwise from Samsung directly the verdict on the 840 reliability is still up in the air.
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Looks like it... until we hear otherwise from Samsung directly the verdict on the 840 reliability is still up in the air.
Hope that they're more responsive this time around regarding the 840 firmware.
I still have a sour taste in my mouth from the Spinpoint F4 debacle when Samsung was busy doing this :

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I hope is a firmware issue because I just ordered two 840 Pro for $140/each free shipping.....could not resist
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:15 AM   #168
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$140 for what size? Where?
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:26 AM   #169
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128GB on sale @ Newegg....I just got the coupon EMCJJJH22

plus free Assassin's Creed 3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc..._-20147192-L0E
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Too bad it's not on the 256. 128GB would work, but that's cutting it close. Thanks for the link/coupon though.
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Newbee question....will the RAID0 x2 128GB be faster than a single 256GB for this model???
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I Know RAID0 is faster than a single drive but the 256GB version of Sammy 840 Pro has significant gain over the 128GB
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Newbee question....will the RAID0 x2 128GB be faster than a single 256GB for this model???
Depend on the drive, mobo, and drivers it can go either way; especially if it is a drive that loses significant performance from lack of trim. SSDs have built in load balancing which increases speed as drive size increases. There is also a question of connector (is there a SATA bottleneck which can be bypassed via RAID)
Also, did intel release the RAID0 trim driver already? IIRC they haven't yet and when they do it would only be for latest gen mobos.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:15 AM   #175
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Also, did intel release the RAID0 trim driver already? IIRC they haven't yet and when they do it would only be for latest gen mobos.


yes

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6161/i...rds-we-test-it


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http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...?DwnldID=21407
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