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Old 11-15-2012, 11:10 PM   #1
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Default Need help for New Gaming mouse

hi guys im a CS 1.6 player...i got palm grip...Curently im using Steelseries Ikari but now its on his way to graveyard R.I.P..i wana buy a new mouse but i got stuck between Razer Death adder,Steel series Xai nd Steelseries sensei raw(ruberised)....so please help me to choose the best one...other sugesstion also appreciated my Budget is 6k
Note:i got sweaty hands problem so suggest according to that...
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:15 AM   #2
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please sumone reply for my query _/\_
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:30 AM   #3
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Does the new Deathadder use Synapse 2.0 to setup the buttons and alter the cursor speed? If so, are you ok with being datamined?

If you like the Ikari's shape, there aren't many other mice that really share its properties for a palm gripper (assuming that you are since you're using the Ikari).

http://mionix.net/products/mionix-3200/ or http://mionix.net/products/naos-5000/ That mouse is about as close to the Ikari's shape as anything on the market, and has some fan support from its owners. I'm not sure that sweaty hands come into play as much as marketing would like to make it seem, and the reason I say that is that different companies have different ways of combating it. Some companies push rubberized products for the "grippiness", other companies push glossy products since sweaty hands will actually adhere better to a glossy mouse during use and provide better grip than someone with dry hands. Honestly, if you've had sweaty hands your whole life, you're probably pretty damned used to how to use them. There is no perfect solution, rubberized surfaces on mice often get slick when wet, glossy surfaces can feel sticky when your hand is moist. Neither will ever resolve the actual issue of your sweaty hands.

The only other thing I would mention is that the Steelseries Sensei (including raw) has hardware level acceleration that software has not been able to breed out of it, making it a sub-optimal choice for most Counterstrike players. If you like the shape of the Sensei, look at http://www.zowiegear.com/component/c...dextrous-mouse which has a similar shape to the Sensei but a much better sensor for playing Counterstrike or Quake.

Another mouse that is close in shape to the Ikari is the Feenix Nascita, however I wouldn't recommend it since it is literally just a Sharkoon DarkGlider with a 50 dollar price increase (one of the funnier gaming ripoffs as of late).

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Old 11-16-2012, 07:37 AM   #4
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I wonder how hard it would be to swap out the internals of a mouse. I find the shape of the Copperhead and G9x excellent, but find the sensor lackluster. In the case of the Copperhead, just plain embarrassing.

Do you have anymore information on the Zowie AM? It's so hard to find good informative mouse/monitor reviews.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:16 AM   #5
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There are some in depth reviews of it on Overclock.net. Some people reported jitter at 2300 dpi (not the kind that you would feel while using, but the kind that could be exhibited in MS paint during directed testing). The popular opinion is that this jitter has a lot to do with the type of mouse pad that you are using; the mouse performs much much better on solid colors than it does on mousepads with different colors or patterns. The other thing to note is that it uses Huano switches which are stiffer. Some people say that this makes their fingers tired, others say that they like the more tactile feeling of the clicks. I've used this mouse and I would say that for FPS gaming I preferred the Huano switches, but if I were an RTS gamer I would probably prefer softer Omron switches. I think the only other things to mention about the AM from my experience with it would be that I really liked the mouse feet on it. They had a very smooth and more importantly very consistent glide on my mouse pad (Artisan Shiden Xsoft white).

If I were looking specifically for an optical mouse based on sensor performance, I would say that the new revision of the Logitech G400 is potentially better than the AM simply due to it having less issues with mousepads that have patterns on them, but for ambidextrous mice I personally like the AM the best out of all the options on the market at the moment. The only reason I didn't mention the G400 in my first response to you, is because its ergonomics are different than the Ikari, and it's nothing at all like the Sensei, and those were two of the mice that you mentioned specifically so I assume you have an idea of what you're looking for.

As for how hard it is to swap mouse internals, there are users on Overclock.net that do it, but I assume some of the restrictions would include things like does the pcb actually fit the shell you're trying to put it in, can you get the sensor anchored correctly, etc. There are a lot of potential variables that could throw a wrench in those efforts I'm afraid.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:57 AM   #6
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:35 AM   #7
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I really like the Zowie AM but it definitely has some jitter on my puretrak talent. Its a single pixels worth every 10 pixels or so when going diagonally. It has no acceleration in the speed range I use it on and at the lower DPI setting that I use. Thus so far of the last 5 mice I have owned it is dramatically better than anything else. The feet are especially good and consistently slide.

What I don't like about the Zowie AM is the switches. The buttons are too hard to press, which over time is meaning I am getting some pain from extended use of the mouse. Partly that is because its a little narrower than I would likely and partly because the side buttons are quite hard to press compared to a lot of other mice. The jitter is also annoying and I see it occasionally affecting my aim in a game but only marginally.

Pretty much all the Steelseries mice have acceleration, which considering their branding as for pro gamers is kind of weird. A lot of pro gamers clearly like acceleration. Seeing as how the Ikari is still on sale have you not considered just getting another one?
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:26 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by BrightCandle View Post
Pretty much all the Steelseries mice have acceleration, which considering their branding as for pro gamers is kind of weird. A lot of pro gamers clearly like acceleration.
I think it's more along the lines of all pro gamers are prone to use whatever free piece of hardware they're handed and asked to promote.
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