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Old 11-14-2012, 10:20 AM   #51
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Since when does leaving it droves mean that 3% more women voted Republican?
Keep being in denial bro....it's going keep biting your party in the ass. Oh Yeah I'm LOVING it too.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:23 AM   #52
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Keep being in denial bro....it's going keep biting your party in the ass. Oh Yeah I'm LOVING it too.
I am not in denial. Romney gain women voters over McCain. Its a fact.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:25 AM   #53
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I am not in denial. Romney gain women voters over McCain. Its a fact.
Really? hmm that's interesting.


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Old 11-14-2012, 10:31 AM   #54
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Really? hmm that's interesting.
Like almost everything to come out of nehalem's keyboard, it's at best a half-truth.

If Romney got more votes than McCain, it's only because he got more votes overall. The gender gap this year was the largest in history.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:33 AM   #55
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What a terrible story. I hope her family sues for negligence. If she was miscarrying in the hospital, they had to treat her regardless of their religious crap, why have a hospital if you refuse to treat a medical emergency?

This story isn't even about Pro-Choice, its about putting your foolish pride aside and doing the right thing. Not letting some woman die of septicemia because you're "Catholic" and refuse to abort a pregnancy that is already naturally being aborted.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:39 AM   #56
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For whose Society? Is this a Society based on your Religious beliefs?
It's a society which believes lives shouldn't be needlessly destroyed, yes. If religious belief advances such a society, then count me among the religious.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:41 AM   #57
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The telltale sign of a civilized first world nation is reproductive rights for women.

Christian Taliban need to piss off to Saudi Arabia where they would fit in better.
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It's a society which believes lives shouldn't be needlessly destroyed, yes. If religious belief advances such a society, then count me among the religious.
So you think a fetus in the early stages of development = a life?
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:42 AM   #59
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The telltale sign of a civilized first world nation is reproductive rights for women.
Not if it infringes upon my Religion. My Holy Book says what people should be able to do, anyone not willing to comply will be suppressed.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:45 AM   #60
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The telltale sign of a civilized first world nation is reproductive rights for women.

Christian Taliban need to piss off to Saudi Arabia where they would fit in better.
Oh ya, that's the gold standard everyone uses.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:49 AM   #61
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Funny how a minimum of 46% of women agree with them. Or maybe they just like having a war waged on them?
46% of women are of below average intelligence.
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The telltale sign of a civilized first world nation is reproductive rights for women.
So Ireland isn't civilized?
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:51 AM   #63
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It's a society which believes lives shouldn't be needlessly destroyed, yes. If religious belief advances such a society, then count me among the religious.
What does Religion have to do with Societies laws?
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:54 AM   #64
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Oh ya, that's the gold standard everyone uses.
When you calculate the standard of living in a country this is one of the first signs of religion not dictating a society.
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46% of women are of below average intelligence.
Think about that one...
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:56 AM   #66
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So Ireland isn't civilized?
Ireland is a Catholic fundie country, they have a long history of leaning on the church against the Anglo Protestants. So yes, they are a bit barbaric still like that because of geopolitics (and imperialism)

Occupation and exploitation are destructive to a society and creates reactionaryism, thus the establishment clings to religion and the Pope.

They also have a lot of terrorism, bombs going off in pubs, assassinations over Protestant/Catholic religions.

Ever heard of the IRA?

Security services are struggling to get a grip on the growing terrorist problem in Northern Ireland

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Think about that one...
I don't have to think about it. If you have to think about it, you don't get the joke and should just move on.
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What does Religion have to do with Societies laws?
The same affect that any institution has on laws. If an institution serves to influence society, which I'd say religion does, then we can certainly say it influences the laws which that society crafts.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:52 AM   #69
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Jmman the problem for liberals is that Blackjack has a logical point.

Many people feel attached to non-human animals. What really separates a new-born human from say a dog?
Humans seem to like dogs more than they like other humans. Look online for news stories about animal abuse such as throwing a dog out of a moving car. Many of the comments will call for the guilty persons to be executed.

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Well great. Then I can paint all Liberals as being in favor of infanticide since we are playing that game.
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I bet I'd make a better parent than 90% of the anti-abortion nut jobs.
Probably because you'll have kids around age 30 to 40. The anti-choice people are big time supporters of having kids around age 15.

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For society. We can at least say there is some restriction on killing your own children, and at least point to some reasoning, hazy though it is, beyond "the mother felt like it."
Killing your own children is option B because they can be thrown away via adoption. Such an option does not exist when dealing with pregnancy. Not many doctors will agree to cut a woman open so she can put her fetus up for adoption.
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So you think a fetus in the early stages of development = a life?
I do. A fetus represents a living being with an independent genetic code and will usually, absent the actions of another, grow into an adult human being.
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The anti-choice people are big time supporters of having kids around age 15.
And pro-choice people are big time supporters of leaving important life choices up to pregnant teenagers. Probably because of their demonstrated ability to make good choices

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The telltale sign of a civilized first world nation is reproductive rights for women.
The telltale sign of a liberalism is their need to use euphemisms for abortion. I wonder why they are so afraid of that word?
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:13 PM   #72
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Every time I hear a liberal say that, I always want to ask them if they're pro-drug legalization, or pro-prostitution. Some of them (the logical ones) are consistent in their thinking, but so many are not - they're just parroting a line they've heard. What they really mean is, "It is her body, sometimes."
Im a pro all those things. drugs, prositution and abortion.
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That is just silly. It does not stop being the woman's body just because the fetus reaches a certain gestational age. Why are you anti-choice?
I think you should be able to abort up to like the 3 month mark. You had a choice until that point. After that you are going to have the baby since you chose not to abort it. Adoption is on the table now, or keeping it.

So its still pro-choice but with a dead line. 3 months is plenty to decide.
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From what I have read, the risk of mortality is less than 0.001% if done in the first trimester, and lower than the risk of carrying to term.
That is still at least 30000 women that have died over the years...just sayin'
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You can get an abortion on demand until the moment of birth in the U.S for any reason, we have the most lax laws on abortion in the western developed world.
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