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Old 11-12-2012, 08:49 PM   #1
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Default Need suggestions for front brakes and rotors for an 09 Accord LX

Pads are low and rotors are discolored with mild scratches in them. Besides pricey genuine honda, what's good. Bosch? Delco? EBC? Brembo?

Also, do I need rotors or can they be machined? This is the first time it's needed front brake work.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:01 PM   #2
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Heard ok things about bosch rotors, dunno about brake pads though. Brembo stuff is typically good, can be pricey if you don't look around.


I'm about to swap out some parts on an 04 because I'm stick of the stock crap 'warping' so damn fast. Went with centric rotors and hawk hps pads (run the hps on my wrx and like them, had a hard time deciding on pads so just went with a known), hopefully this finally fixes it.

If the rotors are within tolerances then you can probably get them machined. Honestly, I'd just spend the 80 or so (rotors come in a lot of varieties, no real reason not to go with some simple blanks though, but buy from a reputable company) and get new ones to match up with the new pads.

Parts in total are like under 150, install will probably double that. Don't bother with the honda dealer parts store, they'll charge you too much 95% of the time.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:31 AM   #3
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I would take a set of in spec machined Honda rotors any day of the week over something cheap aftermarket like duracrap or brake best.

As far as pads I would try and stick to oem Honda or a set of Akebonos. From my experience Hondas can be pretty picky about brakes if you want them to keep quiet. The biggest deal is to stick with the same pad material they came with. If your Accord has semi-metallic from the factory, don't use ceramic or you'll trash your rotors and you'll hear squeaking and squealing before your pads wear half way through.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:24 AM   #4
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Unless you are racing or towing just get a set of the Gold pads from advance with coupon and be done with it. Probably ceramic for that car.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:03 AM   #5
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Brembo drilled rotors. I used Stillen pads/rotors in the past. was pleased.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:23 AM   #6
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Brembo rotors and Hawk pads.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:01 AM   #7
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Napa premium rotors
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:56 AM   #8
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Brembo drilled rotors. I used Stillen pads/rotors in the past. was pleased.
Drilled is a waste and most will just end up cracking in the end.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:01 AM   #9
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Cheapest solution : Honda (AKEBONO) pads and the chap shit Chinese rotors. By the time the pads are worn out, it'll need new rotors anyway.
Super important : TORQUE THE WHEELS ON TO THE CAR!
Not torquing is the biggest reason for warped rotors.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:44 AM   #10
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Napa Premium or OEM only.

All of the advance/autozone/pep boys brakes are total junk, in my experience.

....And your life depends on your brakes and tires. "Not racing or towing" is a ridiculous argument when 10ft of stopping distance can mean saving your life. When you're in a wheelchair for the rest of your life you'll wish you had coughed up the extra $40 on quality parts.

Cheap out on oil, spark plugs, wax, other crap that is just money... But brakes and rotors need to be quality parts.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:50 AM   #11
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Napa Premium or OEM only.

All of the advance/autozone/pep boys brakes are total junk, in my experience.

....And your life depends on your brakes and tires. "Not racing or towing" is a ridiculous argument when 10ft of stopping distance can mean saving your life. When you're in a wheelchair for the rest of your life you'll wish you had coughed up the extra $40 on quality parts.

Cheap out on oil, spark plugs, wax, other crap that is just money... But brakes and rotors need to be quality parts.
Anything to back it up or just more junk internet ads and forum BS you are spieling?

I’ve worked on more cars in 1 year then you have in your life and I have used pads from napa, az, advance, dealers, etc… Do you even know who makes Advance gold pads right now? I do.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:57 AM   #12
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Anything to back it up or just more junk internet ads and forum BS you are spieling?

I’ve worked on more cars in 1 year then you have in your life and I have used pads from napa, az, advance, dealers, etc… Do you even know who makes Advance gold pads right now? I do.
I know I've never seen more comebacks for brake noise than when using those wearevers, gold or not. Even thermoquiets have less comebacks. I didn't mind the extra 1.5 to warranty them out over and over until someone gave and ordered Akebonos but it tended to piss the customers off.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:23 AM   #13
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I know I've never seen more comebacks for brake noise than when using those wearevers, gold or not. Even thermoquiets have less comebacks. I didn't mind the extra 1.5 to warranty them out over and over until someone gave and ordered Akebonos but it tended to piss the customers off.


Hahahahahaaa.. so you are saying that Wagner pads are better than most "wearever" gold pads?




I do agree the cheaper silver (and even cheaper ones below that) are not optiomal if you want longer life, less noise, less dust, etc...
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:10 PM   #14
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I've seen suggestions for Brembo, Akebono, Hawk.
I put together a few options.

Rotors:
Brembo W0133-1818118 - $50.95 each
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...gs+Best+Seller

EBC E35UPR7116 - $47.23 each
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...gs+Best+Seller


Pads:
Akebono W0133-1614426 - $52.95
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...gs+Best+Seller


EBC E35DP31655C - $80.62
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...gs+Best+Seller


Hawk HFHB366Z681 - $83.98
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...html?loc=Front


I'm thinking maybe the Akebono pads for $52.95 and a pair of Brembo rotors for $50.95 each. Would this work or can I not cross manufacturers in rotors and pads?

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Old 11-13-2012, 01:23 PM   #15
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Napa Premium or OEM only@#@#

All of the advance/autozone/pep boys brakes are total junk, in my experience@#@#

@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@#And your life depends on your brakes and tires@#@# "Not racing or towing" is a ridiculous argument when 10ft of stopping distance can mean saving your life@#@# When you're in a wheelchair for the rest of your life you'll wish you had coughed up the extra $40 on quality parts@#@#

Cheap out on oil, spark plugs, wax, other crap that is just money@#@#@#@#@#@# But brakes and rotors need to be quality parts@#@#
What you fail to realize that ANY part sold in the US HAS TO meet a minimum requirement@#@# Third party manufacturers can't simply do whatever they please@#@# So even that cheap shit Chinese rotor has to meet those specs@#@#

When I was a professional technician, we used the Chinese rotors a lot@#@# However, we always paired them with the original brake pads@#@# Pads are what makes the difference, not the rotor@#@# It is just a hunk of metal after all@#@#

Aftermarket pads will almost always squeal to some extent@#@# Even Thermoquiets squeal when cold@#@# OEM pads do not@#@#

I've used the Chinese rotors even on performance cars@#@# There was no difference in braking performance at all@#@#

The only thing that a higher priced rotor will give you is longevity@#@# So you may be able to get a couple of brake jobs out of them@#@#
However, with the price of the Chinese rotors being so low, even if you replace them every brake job, you'll still save money over the more expensive ones@#@#
Chinese rotors usually run <$30/each@#@# So two brake jobs will cost you $120 for four rotors@#@#
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:28 PM   #16
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buy portfield R4S and Centric Rotors. centric is the parent company for stoptech. this is the exact set up we use on all 3 of our race cars my WRX my MR2 spyder and soon my nissan titan@#@# JCH13 uses them on his GF civic and she is in love with the braking. honestly only downside to them is you have to watch your mirror for people who cant stop near as well!
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:36 PM   #17
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I actually agree with you on the Chinese rotors. If anything, they're better for the majority of the pad-chewing, rotor-warping drivers out there.

But OEM pads can squeal just fine, and aftermarkets can be dead quiet. Brake jobs, like most other things that end with 'job,' are much better with lube.

Caliper pins need to be lubed and free. Pads need some lube on them- if not the grease, the tacky spray stuck works. On the back (obviously) and also lightly around the corners where they touch the pad slides. Plus all hardware (slides, shims, and-rattle clips) present and in good shape.

If all that's done, and you're not using $20 pot metal Autozone pads, they're not going to squeak/squeal. Factory pads are good, but the amount of markup on them is absurd. I don't recommend anyone pay $100 for a set of stock brake pads for their Honda.
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I actually agree with you on the Chinese rotors. If anything, they're better for the majority of the pad-chewing, rotor-warping drivers out there.

But OEM pads can squeal just fine, and aftermarkets can be dead quiet. Brake jobs, like most other things that end with 'job,' are much better with lube.

Caliper pins need to be lubed and free. Pads need some lube on them- if not the grease, the tacky spray stuck works. On the back (obviously) and also lightly around the corners where they touch the pad slides. Plus all hardware (slides, shims, and-rattle clips) present and in good shape.

If all that's done, and you're not using $20 pot metal Autozone pads, they're not going to squeak/squeal. Factory pads are good, but the amount of markup on them is absurd. I don't recommend anyone pay $100 for a set of stock brake pads for their Honda.

gonna X2 the use of proper lubes and greases. even if your slide pins are well greases more or new grease is always good. keeps you from getting a stick pin and chewing up a pad and rotor set early.
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I actually agree with you on the Chinese rotors. If anything, they're better for the majority of the pad-chewing, rotor-warping drivers out there.

But OEM pads can squeal just fine, and aftermarkets can be dead quiet. Brake jobs, like most other things that end with 'job,' are much better with lube.

Caliper pins need to be lubed and free. Pads need some lube on them- if not the grease, the tacky spray stuck works. On the back (obviously) and also lightly around the corners where they touch the pad slides. Plus all hardware (slides, shims, and-rattle clips) present and in good shape.

If all that's done, and you're not using $20 pot metal Autozone pads, they're not going to squeak/squeal. Factory pads are good, but the amount of markup on them is absurd. I don't recommend anyone pay $100 for a set of stock brake pads for their Honda.
Yep; I have never had a car come back for brake squeal when I did brake work. People think a brake job is just swapping pads. Many do not check the slides and lube the pads on the caliper correct.
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It annoys me that calipers often come with slides and mounting brackets. If they didn't, I'd get to laugh at the idiots who say 'bad caliper' and end up still having a problem.

Way too many people getting charged $300-500 or more to change a caliper when the only problem is a damn stuck pin. Clean it, lube it, put it back. Done. If you have to, put the bracket in a bench vice and slide hammer the bitch out. It's almost always fixable without parts.

Pads getting stuck in the slides, assuming proper fit, is less likely. The lube I put there is mostly to limit vibration (which causes squeaks). The dirt and dust that cruds up in it is an added bonus- just makes a larger, tackier mass of grease to keep the noise away.

Just gotta be sure to clean said crud out of the slides at the next brakejob.
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The biggest deal is to stick with the same pad material they came with. If your Accord has semi-metallic from the factory, don't use ceramic or you'll trash your rotors and you'll hear squeaking and squealing before your pads wear half way through.
I had an opposite experience - the semi-metallic pads will eat the rotors in a matter of a year on my wife's Mazda MPV (nose heavy car). I switched to ceramic pads and I haven't had to deal with her brakes in 2 years now (the same number of miles driven). There is also no noise.

The ceramic pads are on my 2004 Accord. No noise, decent stopping performance, the pads/rotors last longer.
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I'm thinking maybe the Akebono pads for $52**95 and a pair of Brembo rotors for $50**95 each** Would this work or can I not cross manufacturers in rotors and pads?

Thanks

Yes, that will work just fine. You can mix and match rotors and pads. The brembos will do fine, this will save you a few bucks if you wish: http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...gs+Best+Seller

I have a couple in the box right now, they look well made.
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I had an opposite experience - the semi-metallic pads will eat the rotors in a matter of a year on my wife's Mazda MPV (nose heavy car). I switched to ceramic pads and I haven't had to deal with her brakes in 2 years now (the same number of miles driven). There is also no noise.

The ceramic pads are on my 2004 Accord. No noise, decent stopping performance, the pads/rotors last longer.
I'm confused now, I think the original pads were semi-metallic, but when I was getting new tires they told me to get ceramic pads. The Akebono pads I'm looking at (see post further up) are ceramic. I was considering the Brembo rotors to go with it but I have no idea if I can mix and match pads with rotors and no idea if ceramics will kill the Brembo rotors. Heeeellllpppp.

Edit: Just saw Demo24's reply. Guess I'll order this combo unless someone thinks I'm making a huge mistake. Thanks.
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Centric rotors and Porterfield R4S pads. Epic winning combination.
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Centric rotors and Porterfield R4S pads. Epic winning combination.
how are those pads compared to hawk dtc 60's
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