|
|
 |
|
11-13-2012, 10:46 AM
|
#26
|
|
Administrator Discussion Club Moderator Elite Member
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 39,814
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dari
She works (or worked) in military intelligence...
|
That does not allow her to have classified material on a non-government computer.
__________________
F15 Air Superiority Fighter - Never has one been lost in aerial combat (104 kills)
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 10:51 AM
|
#27
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 9,485
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimzz
Wow really?
She has clearance to be places; not need to know, let alone have classified information on her personal computer. Classified data/documents have to be transported in very specific ways.
You already looked like an idiot by just going by the “it’s only an affair…” even when many headlines showed why it was a real problem.
|
Again - such a problem that the FBI and Justice Department decided to press exactly zerocharges. Why do you think you know more about what happened and how big of a deal it was than the FBI and Justice Department?
Also - what proof do you have that she got them from Patreus? I am guessing you have zero proof - certainly not enough proof to go against FBI and JD findings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimzz
|
From your own links:
Quote:
|
One of the officials said Justice Department officials were unclear on what steps to take after they concluded that there would be no charges against the CIA director or Broadwell and that there had been no breach of national security.
|
Quote:
|
The official said that Clapper has been fully briefed on the FBI investigation and has not called for his office or the CIA to conduct a follow-up probe or damage assessment — indicating that Clapper (Director FBI) does not see the case as a security threat.
|
Quote:
|
This is a very personal matter, not a matter of intelligence,” the senior U.S. intelligence official said.
|
__________________
"Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule." -Friedrich Nietzshe
"It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifiling exception, is composed of others" - John Andrew Holmes
Last edited by Exterous; 11-13-2012 at 10:58 AM.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 10:57 AM
|
#28
|
|
Golden Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,610
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Vito Corleone
It struck me as bizarre that despite the fact that Kelley was being portrayed as a mere innocent bystander, she had hired Abbe Lowell (a high-powered, high-profile criminal defense attorney who has represented, among others, Bill Clinton, Gary Condit and John Edwards). I expect this story will become even weirder as we learn more.
IMO the people calling this story a witch hunt about a personal matter are misguided. It is simply untenable to have a four-star general, much less the Director of Central Intelligence, carrying on in a manner which makes him readily susceptible to blackmail. The fact that it appears that either Petraeus or Allen or both may have permitted access to compartmentalized, classified information also makes this far worse.
|
Excellent point, thank you. I am still concerned that there didn't seem to be any Judicial oversight though. It has a White Water feel to it, let's investigate for one thing then go on a completely separate track.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 11:00 AM
|
#29
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,292
|
So stoked that some of the top leaders in the country act like an Internet troll and don't know that what happens online stays online.
__________________
DCal430's wisdom on gun laws
If the children or other family members will have access to the gun then they should be interrogated too.
We can also use teachers to enforce these rules, they can ask their students to be honest and if mommy and daddy are in violation of these rules.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 11:08 AM
|
#30
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: N. California
Posts: 7,463
|
What did Obama know about this clusterfuck of National Security and when did he know it?
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 11:28 AM
|
#31
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 25,614
|
They're saying that the FBI agent that Jill Kelley went to with the threatening emails from Paula Broadwell was himself exchanging naked photographs with Jill Kelley. He's now under investigation too.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 11:40 AM
|
#32
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 8,887
|
Count me among those that never suspected generals had groupies.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 11:41 AM
|
#33
|
|
Platinum Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,892
|
So much weirdness about this whole affair.
The FBI agent was close to Jill Kelly, and other FBI agents were wondering why this investigation was happening, since the emails she got from Broadwell were not threatening.
The FBI agent got taken off the case (as noted above) for unprofessional behavior.
Broadwell and Petreaus were not "sending" emails, but leaving them as drafts that the other person could login to and read without actually exchanging emails (OMG, terrorist tactic!!!). Once again, shows how normal people can do to get around things.
Now another general is alleged to have issues with the original woman (Jill Kelly)
And how does the FBI get access to all this information ? 20,000+ emails/documents? Working through all of Broadwell's and Petreaus emails? All of this because Jill Kelley was friends with an FBI agent?
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 12:14 PM
|
#34
|
|
Administrator Discussion Club Moderator Elite Member
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 39,814
|
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
Power and/or the access to it, is a powerful aphrodisiac
__________________
F15 Air Superiority Fighter - Never has one been lost in aerial combat (104 kills)
Last edited by EagleKeeper; 11-13-2012 at 12:27 PM.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 12:17 PM
|
#35
|
|
Administrator Discussion Club Moderator Elite Member
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 39,814
|
Kelly was scorned by Petraeus and probably co municated some information to the original FBI agent
Was agent investigating her or having a relationship
More than likely the original FBI agent did not deliver; Kelley went over his head to the local office to file a report about Petraeus and Broadwell
__________________
F15 Air Superiority Fighter - Never has one been lost in aerial combat (104 kills)
Last edited by EagleKeeper; 11-13-2012 at 12:28 PM.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 12:23 PM
|
#36
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Empire State Building - 86th Floor
Posts: 5,979
|
This is getting to look like a really bad soap opera** Rumor has it that this is just the beginning of a rather deep rabbit hole**
__________________
"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms—it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man."
- Albert Einstein
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 02:32 PM
|
#37
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,546
|
I'm reserving judgement until after the porn industry does a parody.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 02:41 PM
|
#38
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 27,190
|
BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
A mistake that aired on Denver's 7 has gone viral on the internet.
On 7NEWS at 5 p.m. on Monday, the station reported on ex-CIA director David Petraeus' relationship with his biographer, Paula Broadwell.
Broadwell earned a master's degree at the University of Denver and had given a speech at an alumni event several weeks ago that may have provided insight into the early stages of their relationship.
During the broadcast, 7NEWS showed an image of Broadwell's biography of Petraeus that is called, "All In: The Education of General David Petraeus."
However, when the 7NEWS reporter went on the Internet to get an image of the book cover, the reporter mistakenly grabbed a Photoshopped image that said, "All Up In My Snatch." (View image here.)
"It was a mistake," said KMGH-TV News Director Jeff Harris.
"It was a regrettable and an embarrassing error. We are mortified this appeared during our 5 p.m. news broadcast. The editor pulled the image of the book cover from the Internet without realizing it had been doctored. We sincerely regret the error and have corrected the story to avoid any recurrence of its broadcast. We are following up internally as well to avoid a repeat of this inexcusable oversight," Harris said.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...s-viral-on-web
__________________
20 years ago, we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Jobs. Now we have no Cash, no Hope and no Jobs. Please don’t let Kevin Bacon die.” Bill Murray
"Going to McDonalds for a salad is like asking a prostitute for a hug." Sean Fallon
my post are being monitored by a STALKER!
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 03:23 PM
|
#39
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: N. California
Posts: 7,463
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Savage Fan
This is getting to look like a really bad soap opera** Rumor has it that this is just the beginning of a rather deep rabbit hole**
|
The CIA has come out and said that Broadwell was wrong about captives being held by the CIA in Benghazi. They have to since Obama signed an executive order in 2009 making it illegal............. what did Obama know about the illegal actions in Benghazi and the illegal actions by the CIA and when did he know it?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...raeus/1699207/
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 03:31 PM
|
#40
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,610
|
its hard to believe all this could happen over chicks this ugly
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 03:43 PM
|
#41
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: N. California
Posts: 7,463
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by OBLAMA2009
its hard to believe all this could happen over chicks this ugly
|
Focus, it's all about Benghazi, don't lose focus.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 03:53 PM
|
#42
|
|
Golden Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,610
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarfieldtheCat
So much weirdness about this whole affair.
The FBI agent was close to Jill Kelly, and other FBI agents were wondering why this investigation was happening, since the emails she got from Broadwell were not threatening.
The FBI agent got taken off the case (as noted above) for unprofessional behavior.
Broadwell and Petreaus were not "sending" emails, but leaving them as drafts that the other person could login to and read without actually exchanging emails (OMG, terrorist tactic!!!). Once again, shows how normal people can do to get around things.
Now another general is alleged to have issues with the original woman (Jill Kelly)
And how does the FBI get access to all this information ? 20,000+ emails/documents? Working through all of Broadwell's and Petreaus emails? All of this because Jill Kelley was friends with an FBI agent?
|
^^This^^
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 03:56 PM
|
#43
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,332
|
this really is all about bhengazi isn't it.
__________________
Have you not been in OT in the past two years?
He thinks he's the master of the universe. - Shortylickens
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 03:57 PM
|
#44
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,332
|
my bet is docs get destroyed about the truth of benghazi
__________________
Have you not been in OT in the past two years?
He thinks he's the master of the universe. - Shortylickens
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 04:02 PM
|
#45
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seattle
Posts: 10,725
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by monovillage
Focus, it's all about Benghazi, don't lose focus.
|
I still don't understand why beghazi is supposed to be a scandal
__________________
You can push them out of a plane, you can march them off a cliff, you can send 'em off to die on some godforsaken rock, but for some reason you can't slap 'em
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 04:08 PM
|
#46
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: N. California
Posts: 7,463
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Farang
I still don't understand why beghazi is supposed to be a scandal
|
And you never will, my father never understood why Nixon got in trouble for Watergate.
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 04:47 PM
|
#47
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seattle
Posts: 10,725
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by monovillage
And you never will, my father never understood why Nixon got in trouble for Watergate**
|
This is what I mean**** no specifics** Just compare it to other scandals, 'raise questions,' but what is supposed to have been the wrongdoing?
__________________
You can push them out of a plane, you can march them off a cliff, you can send 'em off to die on some godforsaken rock, but for some reason you can't slap 'em
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 04:55 PM
|
#48
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,332
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Farang
This is what I mean**** no specifics** Just compare it to other scandals, 'raise questions,' but what is supposed to have been the wrongdoing?
|
dude it's classic government cover up.. it's obvious.
__________________
Have you not been in OT in the past two years?
He thinks he's the master of the universe. - Shortylickens
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 04:58 PM
|
#49
|
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,925
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Farang
This is what I mean**** no specifics** Just compare it to other scandals, 'raise questions,' but what is supposed to have been the wrongdoing?
|
I agree, what exactly was the wrong doing
1. If there was wrong doign at the state department level what was it?
2. How does wrongdoing by the state department lead to an
administration cover up?
__________________
Norco 4224, Supermicro X8DTE
Dual Xeon x5660 hexcores,40gb samsung ddr3
HP SAS Expander, LSI controller
128gb Crucial M4, 256gb Samsung 830
Mix match of 2tb and 1.5tb hdds for just over 40tb
Windows server 2008 r2 running hyper v & FlexRaid
|
|
|
11-13-2012, 05:27 PM
|
#50
|
|
Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seattle
Posts: 10,725
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by zanejohnson
dude it's classic government cover up.. it's obvious.
|
Ok then what is being covered up?
__________________
You can push them out of a plane, you can march them off a cliff, you can send 'em off to die on some godforsaken rock, but for some reason you can't slap 'em
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:46 AM.
|