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View Poll Results: If the confederates secede from the union, which side would you fight on?
Union 47 52.81%
Confederates 16 17.98%
Depends who has the better looking uniforms 26 29.21%
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:52 AM   #26
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They should do it then we can carpet bomb them and bring them democracy!
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:55 AM   #27
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Until they have another natural disaster (Not meaning Rmoney's campaign) and coming to Uncle Sam looking for a handout.
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The Bible Belt states receive the lion's share of federal assistance,


Whoops. Imagine how we'd do if we didn't have to deal with all yalls unfunded mandates and other bs like that?
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:00 AM   #28
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Whoops. Imagine how we'd do if we didn't have to deal with all yalls unfunded mandates and other bs like that?
Oh gee... look at that. The top three worst offenders are the states of West Virginia, Mississippi, and South Carolina; three very red states with a lot of idiotic social conservatives.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:00 AM   #29
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Hmmm, California must be part of the Bible Belt.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:05 AM   #30
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Oh gee... look at that. The top three worst offenders are the states of West Virginia, Mississippi, and South Carolina; three very red states with a lot of idiotic social conservatives.
I'll agree, they're hypocrites. But they aren't Texas.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:15 AM   #31
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Texas--lose one state--end the Republicans presidential ambitions! It might be a good trade. Besides, if Texas secedes, then we could ship all of the Tea-Tards and free marketers over there.

Secede!?! Maybe we should just proactively boot Texas out.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:16 AM   #32
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Oh gee... look at that. The top three worst offenders are the states of West Virginia, Mississippi, and South Carolina; three very red states with a lot of idiotic social conservatives.
I seriously have a problem with that map.
Please link to actual source?
I have seen it in numerous places that California gets back a lot less and that New York state is one of the biggest losers. That is not consistent with your map.

EDIT: The map is bullshit. Here you will find the real info:
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...h-their-taxes-

http://reason.com/archives/2011/07/1...edblue-paradox
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:26 AM   #33
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I am not one to throw the race card, but you absolutely cannot convince me that this instinct to secede is not largely a function of President Obama's race. He is, if anything, a hawkish, centrist Democrat, and has given these states nothing to fear, other than being a half-black guy named Barack Hussein Obama.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:28 AM   #34
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All this talk about secession is just that...talk. Even we Southerners don't take it seriously anymore. In my experience, it is those not from the South that want us to secede the most. We are patriotic about our nation AND proud of our regional heritage. We are stronger and more prosperous together than apart.

That being said, I voted confederate. Like many Southerners the last time around, we will defend our homes without regard to the political ideologies behind the war. That being said, I do not want for that situation to ever arise as disunion is a stupid idea.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:30 AM   #35
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Texas does not have $1.3 trillion.
Don't think the US has $16 trillion either.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:32 AM   #36
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Texas population: 25,674,681
US population: 311,591,917
Percentage of the US population in Texas: 8.24%

US National Debt: $16,263,461,460,949.95
8.24% of US National Debt: 1,340,083,494,417.74

Don't see why that's not fair. But I think it'd be fairer still if they took that percentage of the debt that they had a hand in creating. Still, 1.3 trillion to secede? If those were Washington's only terms, I think Texas would take it.
Hey, Bush was from Texas. I say we put the cost of the wars on his state's shoulders.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:35 AM   #37
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I am not one to throw the race card, but you absolutely cannot convince me that this instinct to secede is not largely a function of President Obama's race. He is, if anything, a hawkish, centrist Democrat, and has given these states nothing to fear, other than being a half-black guy named Barack Hussein Obama.
I don't think it's race. In truth I think it's just butthurt that's looking for an outlet.

...although butt outlets already exist. Bahdum tish.
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Hey, Bush was from Texas. I say we put the cost of the wars on his state's shoulders.
Good point! Great idea! We should KICK Texas out of the union and give them that portion of the national debt that is attributable to George W. Bush.
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I say let them go. Its better for the US. They get a huge portion of the Mexican border. We get most of the oil in the Gulf of Mexico.

They get intelligent design and a 6000 year old earth. We get education for the 21st century.

The only condition is they don't get any nukes.
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Hey, Bush was from Texas. I say we put the cost of the wars on his state's shoulders.
As it happens that comes out to about $1.3 trillion.
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I am not one to throw the race card, but you absolutely cannot convince me that this instinct to secede is not largely a function of President Obama's race. He is, if anything, a hawkish, centrist Democrat, and has given these states nothing to fear, other than being a half-black guy named Barack Hussein Obama.
You troll well sir.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:58 AM   #42
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"Gov. Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it. But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government. Now more than ever our country needs strong leadership from states like Texas, that are making tough decisions to live within their means, keep taxes low and provide opportunities to job creators so their citizens can provide for their families and prosper. We cannot allow Washington’s tax and spend, one-size-fits-all mindset to jeopardize our children’s future, undermine our personal liberties and drive our nation down a dangerous path to greater dependence of government."
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:10 PM   #43
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Oh well. It was settled over 150 years ago that small minded short term thinking morons can't be allowed to ruin a great nation.
Really? *cough* Bush *cough*
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If we let them secede they would just try to join one of our enemies to backstab the Union again. (Iran-Tex?)

Just like they did when they tried to join the UK during the TX Republic and then later joining the traitorous CSA in the Civil War.

Keep your Texans close....

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Hey, Bush was from Texas** I say we put the cost of the wars on his state's shoulders**
Massachusetts born, otherwise he was just another carpet bagger politician from Texas**
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:00 PM   #46
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god, we better not**
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I say let them go. Its better for the US. They get a huge portion of the Mexican border. We get most of the oil in the Gulf of Mexico.

They get intelligent design and a 6000 year old earth. We get education for the 21st century.

The only condition is they don't get any nukes.
You are smoking crack if you think that. Actually yea, you can have it, at a price.
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Texas had a 2-year budget shortfall that ran somewhere between $15B and $27B. How on earth is that a balanced budget?

lol petition writers.
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Texas had a 2-year budget shortfall that ran somewhere between $15B and $27B. How on earth is that a balanced budget?

lol petition writers.
it's not. dont listen to the tea tards, we people, with brains, in Texas DO NOT WANT TO SECEDE. and if those tea tards do, i want to come live with you guys.
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Really? *cough* Bush *cough*


Derp Derp um Carter! Derp!
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