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Old 11-12-2012, 09:57 PM   #51
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They should seek mental help
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:13 PM   #52
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uhmmm...they met in therapy.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:16 PM   #53
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:21 PM   #54
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um, because that's the gender they should have been all along?

what a dumb fucking question.
The gender they should have had all along is what they were born with.
How can one declare themselves to be the opposite sex when they have no frame of reference? All they can do is declare a preference. Even after surgery and hormones, they haven't fully changed their sex, at best they will be an imitation of what a man or woman truly is. I honestly think it's a tragedy that people do this to themselves in the hope of creating a better situation. I can't begin to fathom the confusion and suffering that would lead someone to such an extreme solution to their problems, but I can say that I honestly do pity them.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:53 PM   #55
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I know you can change a wiener into a vagina, but I was unaware that the opposite was true. Wouldn't the she/he have to have wiener somehow implanted in order to properly "get it on" with the post-op he/she? Is it really possible to create and attach a penis with the proper nerve attachments to achieve stimulation? For that matter, is the male to female transgender still in possession of the nerve attachments to stimulate after the awful mutilation that has been done to their junk? I'm thinking that sex between these two is a weak shadow of the real thing.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:58 PM   #56
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I just think that a teenager shouldn't make a decision like changing your sex. Too young to do something that drastic.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:02 PM   #57
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I just realized that both could do all changes except genitals and still be "compatible" in this situation. Give me a raise?
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:04 PM   #58
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I just realized that both could do all changes except genitals and still be "compatible" in this situation. Give me a raise?
Uh, how? If by "all changes" you're including brain swapping, then nothing else is really necessary.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:05 PM   #59
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:08 PM   #60
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Uh, how? If by "all changes" you're including brain swapping, then nothing else is really necessary.
They can make all exterior changes except genitals, so they look the part until they take the panties off. One still goes in the other in this arrangement?

No, I haven't read the article.
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They can make all exterior changes except genitals, so they look the part until they take the panties off. One still goes in the other in this arrangement?

No, I haven't read the article.
They both have vaginas. The male-to-female is post-op.
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They both have vaginas. The male-to-female is post-op.
Okay, they "could have" done that, but now it's too late. I was thinking more about the scenario than the actual case having not read the article.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:57 PM   #63
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The gender they should have had all along is what they were born with.
How can one declare themselves to be the opposite sex when they have no frame of reference? All they can do is declare a preference. Even after surgery and hormones, they haven't fully changed their sex, at best they will be an imitation of what a man or woman truly is. I honestly think it's a tragedy that people do this to themselves in the hope of creating a better situation. I can't begin to fathom the confusion and suffering that would lead someone to such an extreme solution to their problems, but I can say that I honestly do pity them.
mentally, they were the opposite sex than what the body... physically, they should have been born with the opposite sex. they just wanted the body to match their brains. nothing at all wrong with that.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:57 AM   #64
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The gender they should have had all along is what they were born with.
How can one declare themselves to be the opposite sex when they have no frame of reference? All they can do is declare a preference. Even after surgery and hormones, they haven't fully changed their sex, at best they will be an imitation of what a man or woman truly is. I honestly think it's a tragedy that people do this to themselves in the hope of creating a better situation. I can't begin to fathom the confusion and suffering that would lead someone to such an extreme solution to their problems, but I can say that I honestly do pity them.
Gender identity extends FAR beyond the genitals you were born with.

There are even people who are born a cute little girl and begin to grow a penis at puberty, with congenital adrenal hyperplasia.

And perhaps the most telling of the cases is the boy who lost his penis during a circumcision accident at birth. The doctor decided to give him sexual reassignment surgery and hormones and have his parents raise him as a girl. He grew up with boy interests and eventually went into severe depression due to not feeling in tune with his gender. When he was an adult, his parents finally admitted to him what had happened. He immediately opted to have surgery to become a male again.

Gender identity disorders are legitimate disorders with very well known biological roots.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:13 AM   #65
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I just think that a teenager shouldn't make a decision like changing your sex. Too young to do something that drastic.
This. I still thought McDonald's was quality food at that age.
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