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Old 11-08-2012, 12:25 PM   #51
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Where are there ventilation holes on the iphone 5? I never noticed any on mine...
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:31 PM   #52
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Smartphones don't have ventilation holes lol
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:33 PM   #53
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Where are there ventilation holes on the iphone 5? I never noticed any on mine...
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:42 PM   #54
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Where are there ventilation holes on the iphone 5? I never noticed any on mine...
Bottom of the phone, by the speakers.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:15 PM   #55
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Bottom of the phone, by the speakers.
Um, are you talking about the mic grill, the speaker grill or the headphone socket?
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:48 PM   #56
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I'm talking about the size of the phone, not just the screen diagonal size.

Galaxy S3 - 133g
Galaxy Stellar 4G - 133g
Galaxy S3 Mini- 111g

One of those phones is smaller than the others, and has noticeably reduced specs. The other two are the same overall size.

You can't just look at the screen diagonal, or else you will end up comparing thick phones to thin and vice/versa. Look at the phone weight, you see that they are exactly equally massive, and even then the one that "seems" smaller to you has it's CPU clocked down, probably because the thicker design doesn't allow heat to dissipate as efficiently.
Droid RAZR M is thinner and lighter than the gs3 and has a 2000 mah batter with the same exact specs as the gs3.

You even say probably in your basis of your claim and have no proof of anything you are saying.heck did you ever think that marketing might have a roll in why a free Samsung phone is clocked 300 MHz slower and maybe its a little thicker to not make the gs3 look like a bad deal when a free cell has the same specs?


The razr m is 8.3mm thin and weighs less than gs3 and has a smaller form factor with the same guts!
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:43 PM   #57
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Bottom of the phone, by the speakers.
Have you done any heat modeling with different geometries? Maybe its different with phones;I could envision a different game entirely because a phone will often be on its side all the time, and even upside down!
That said, all you see when you place a vent at the bottom is that the heat simply piles up & accumulates at the top of the device. It goes back to 2nd grade; hot air rises.

If orientation is defined well, vents can help when placed on the side, and are most effective (duh) when placed on top. Of course, side and top vents typically destroy almost any IPX claim level, even just IPX1.

I don't know if the iphone is claiming any ipx standard (maybe they are in a particular orientation lol?), but I wouldn't be so sure those are actually vents.

Then again I don't have an iphone so I don't know :p
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:33 PM   #58
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They might well not be intended for ventilation in any way, I just googled vents when WelshBloke asked if any phones had them and found a few references to the iPhone5.

But... whether they are intended to be vents or simply there for the speakers, they offer less temperature resistance than even the best conductor. Similar holes are impossible on a glass phone body, that was my point- aluminum & even plastic have thermal advantages over glass.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:47 AM   #59
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We won't see ARM15 in the GS4 until Exynos 5250 (currently in Nexus 10 and chromebook) gets a die shrink. Another physical limitation of a smartphone's size. This seems mostly due to power draw.

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Old 11-10-2012, 11:33 AM   #60
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We won't see ARM15 in the GS4 until Exynos 5250 (currently in Nexus 10 and chromebook) gets a die shrink. Another physical limitation of a smartphone's size. This seems mostly due to power draw.
Right because Samsung just blew 10 billion on its metal gate process and just started producing the 5250s to say hey let's just throw are 10 billion dollar fab away and re fab it in 3 months to build the same exact chip on a smaller node.

Samsung just finished its plant to make these and its hilarious that you think they won't make and 5250s while using there brand new fan for smart phones
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Old 11-10-2012, 12:33 PM   #61
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Right because Samsung just blew 10 billion on its metal gate process and just started producing the 5250s to say hey let's just throw are 10 billion dollar fab away and re fab it in 3 months to build the same exact chip on a smaller node.

Samsung just finished its plant to make these and its hilarious that you think they won't make and 5250s while using there brand new fan for smart phones
http://m.techspot.com/news/50672-mas...ting-soon.html

What were you saying?
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:29 PM   #62
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They might well not be intended for ventilation in any way, I just googled vents when WelshBloke asked if any phones had them and found a few references to the iPhone5.

But... whether they are intended to be vents or simply there for the speakers, they offer less temperature resistance than even the best conductor. Similar holes are impossible on a glass phone body, that was my point- aluminum & even plastic have thermal advantages over glass.
If you go to ifixit and look at the ip5 breakdown you'll see what's inside those grills. Suffice to say that there's no air circulation going on.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:07 PM   #63
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The samsung stellar has a damn tft screen, it sucks ass.

Hottest phone ive had was a thunderbolt, omg that sucker would blaze when charging and being used.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:20 PM   #64
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If you go to ifixit and look at the ip5 breakdown you'll see what's inside those grills. Suffice to say that there's no air circulation going on.
Not only is there no air movement, the SOC isn't even close to the speaker grills.

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhon...ardown/10525/1
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