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Old 11-10-2012, 03:26 PM   #101
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What has come out about this does not make sense. Lets see if I understand what has been released so far...

One
The FBI was reading the CIA director's google mail.

Two
The CIA director either was or had had an affair with a women that is being variously represented as a PhD student or a journalist.

Three
The women is actually a US Army Major (Reserves).

Four
The FBI started reading the CIA director's email because they thought that it had been hacked.

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No hacking charges pending against anyone.

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Since the FBI reports to the justice department, this would normally mean that at least the President's cabinet knew about this...

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According to FBI sources, there was a political decision made at a level above the FBI to not do anything until after the election.

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The General decides not to testify to Congress about the incident in Libya. Even though there is nothing preventing him from testifying.

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The general resigns even though there is no public knowledge of the affair.


Questions

Who authorized the FBI to spy on the CIA?

Who has the information that the FBI gathered?

Who made the decision not to do anything until after the election?

Who benefits if the General does not testify before congress?

President Clinton had an affair with a White House Intern. Didn't seem to impact his ability to govern. Once the General's affair became public, it wouldn't seem possible to blackmail him about it...

President Obama's secret service detail brought whores back to their hotel rooms while they were on duty. Haven't seen the SS director resigning.



Whether you like the General or Obama or whatever, there is a really bad odor around this whole thing. That is, there is an odor that indicates that there is a lot more to this that hasn't come out...

Uno

Wait, what, i'm Jewish and i heard nothing about ousting him?

NWO getting sneaky?

He fucked a pretty one and got caught, it happens, deal with it.

I still never liked the guy and have argued against him since his instatement.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:15 PM   #102
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And you wonder why independants were driven away from Republicans???
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:49 PM   #103
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And you wonder why independants were driven away from Republicans???
Those ain't 'publicans, dose are librarians.

Or liberains or whatever the fuck the retards who THINK they are classical liberals call themselves.

Fucking national socialists who don't mind welfare for their own "kind" (everyone with an iq of 25 that can manage to find a doorway).
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:06 PM   #104
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I am going to tell you what this is and you are not going to believe it:

We all hate ourselves and that self hate is hidden and deeply buried. We were psychically murdered as children and we long to return to our original health. We want to feel what killed us so we can be reborn, but because our deaths were so painful we don't want to remember either.

Thus it is we are driven to feel what we felt, ho worthless we really feel, but we are afraid to because of the pain. We are doomed and we are trapped, so what do we do with our inexorable need and or terrible fear? What we do is to back in to our trauma and destroy our lives, driven at once by the need to deny and to feel.

And the greater we become in life without understanding what we feel, the more the need to prove our worthlessness becomes. The General had an affair so he could prove the truth of his feelings, that he's a worthless piece of shit. It's the feeling he was driven to feel so he could become real again, but until he feels what he really feels with memory of childhood events, he can't heal the real damage. He can only feel shame vicariously. Pity him for he has destroyed himself out of ignorance. We do not know, we do not know we don't want to know, and we do not know we do not want to know.

So sad and you will not see this either.
Authenticity is built on the guilt of answerability; inauthenticity on the guilt of submitting to the incorporeal other. I think the problem is that he resigned not out of answerability, but out of desire to please the inauthentic other.
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:11 PM   #105
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Authenticity is built on the guilt of answerability; inauthenticity on the guilt of submitting to the incorporeal other. I think the problem is that he resigned not out of answerability, but out of desire to please the inauthentic other.
I think the problem is that he's a stupid twat that should never have had any responsibility of anything in his pathetic little life.

I have served under several US generals as a part of NATO and the last one i served with honor was Wesley Clark.

No surprise that the job got done quick and we left with less security than we have in most nations after that.

Paturanus was awesome, he didn't have a fucking clue but otoh he didn't give a sheit either, might have been most excellent if it was a fucking college roadtrip but we were at war.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:48 PM   #106
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I think the problem is that he's a stupid twat that should never have had any responsibility of anything in his pathetic little life.

I have served under several US generals as a part of NATO and the last one i served with honor was Wesley Clark.

No surprise that the job got done quick and we left with less security than we have in most nations after that.

Paturanus was awesome, he didn't have a fucking clue but otoh he didn't give a sheit either, might have been most excellent if it was a fucking college roadtrip but we were at war.
Well I guess we have a military policy genius here.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:51 PM   #107
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I think the problem is that he's a stupid twat that should never have had any responsibility of anything in his pathetic little life.

I have served under several US generals as a part of NATO and the last one i served with honor was Wesley Clark.

No surprise that the job got done quick and we left with less security than we have in most nations after that.

Paturanus was awesome, he didn't have a fucking clue but otoh he didn't give a sheit either, might have been most excellent if it was a fucking college roadtrip but we were at war.
You expressed your feelings, no doubt, but you ideas/arguments... they didn't exactly come through...
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:01 PM   #108
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Well I guess we have a military policy genius here.
You don't need a military policy genious to tell you that in the midst of the hunt for Al Quaeda and the Taliban you cannot retract ALL fighting forces and fight a war based on nothing for nothing.

DO YOU?

It was at that point the war against terrorism was given up on and lost, before that the LTTE, mostly Buddhists were the organisation responsible for most terrorist attacks, by allowing Al Qaueda free passage we made a terrorist group that has now spread from Afghanistan through the ME into central Africa and you can thank the geniouses who ordered the withdrawal of all fighting troops when we had them in the mountains.

So say thank you you daft fuck and award Betray US another medal for his service and high standards.

He sure as fuck deserves it, he was tasked with what he did, but hey, it's just your taxpayer money and you'll fight for it to go for nothing before you'll help a child in need, just like Al Qaueda.

Obama got Bin Ladin because of the few of us who were actually there, not because of drones bombing weddings or because Iraq had no WMD's but hey all is still ok anyway...

Also assured that next time you cry wolf, we're not coming to help, why would we, we lost loads of lifes for no good reason, because a man you don't even have the balls to call on it cried wolf.

PATHETIC! I think that is the most appropriate term i can use for the US armed forces leadership.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:04 PM   #109
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You don't need a military policy genious to tell you that in the midst of the hunt for Al Quaeda and the Taliban you cannot retract ALL fighting forces and fight a war based on nothing for nothing.

DO YOU?

It was at that point the war against terrorism was given up on and lost, before that the LTTE, mostly Buddhists were the organisation responsible for most terrorist attacks, by allowing Al Qaueda free passage we made a terrorist group that has now spread from Afghanistan through the ME into central Africa and you can thank the geniouses who ordered the withdrawal of all fighting troops when we had them in the mountains.

So say thank you you daft fuck and award Betray US another medal for his service and high standards.

He sure as fuck deserves it, he was tasked with what he did, but hey, it's just your taxpayer money and you'll fight for it to go for nothing before you'll help a child in need, just like Al Qaueda.

Obama got Bin Ladin because of the few of us who were actually there, not because of drones bombing weddings or because Iraq had no WMD's but hey all is still ok anyway...

Also assured that next time you cry wolf, we're not coming to help, why would we, we lost loads of lifes for no good reason, because a man you don't even have the balls to call on it cried wolf.

PATHETIC! I think that is the most appropriate term i can use for the US armed forces leadership.
So you're pissed that the same military-industrial complex that runs the US runs you Brits?
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You expressed your feelings, no doubt, but you ideas/arguments... they didn't exactly come through...
I think they are clear now, we should have been allowed to finish the job but we were not allowed to do so because Al Qaueda was needed.

In the midst of the action ALL troops along with ALL air support was retracted.

Ever heard of that being done while hunting down your enemy?

This is KNOWN information and no one cares, if someone says anything about it they are just bbbb but Bush idiots.

Meanwhile you are suffering losses to this day and lost all of your allies, do you honestly think we would go if you cried wolf today? Not one chance in hell.

We despise you for your lies, the entire world does and when it comes to trust now it's kinda even betweeen you and imadinnerjacket.

You don't get that because you are sufficiently shielded from the outside world, kinda like the Chinese.
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So you're pissed that the same military-industrial complex that runs the US runs you Brits?
No you daft fuck, we were first on ground in Afghanistan, WE were there we hunted them, we fought them we had them and then came the order of complete withdrawal of all ground personell along with all air support.

We fucking had them, we could have ended Al Qaueda right then and there but we were not allowed to do so.

This is no fucking conspiracy story, it's available information, everyone can look it up and not care but one thing changed.

No more NATO rules will be written by those not keen to go to war just to lose and believe you me, anyone who died in Iraq died because of politics, because of a need to continue the war on terror, not one soldier was allowed to fight terrorists from the day it was decided that we offered Al Quaeda free passage in Afghanistan.

And yes, that was a standing order not to engage the enemy in any way. I don't care anymore, i'm just bored out of my fucking skull.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:17 PM   #112
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The F.B.I. investigation that led to the sudden resignation of David H. Petraeus as C.I.A. director on Friday began with a complaint several months ago about “harassing” e-mails sent by Paula Broadwell, Mr. Petraeus’s biographer, to another woman who knows both of them
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/us...affair.html?hp
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/us...affair.html?hp
But they are made of sugar and spice and everything nice?

Wait... i'm not going to convince you of this, am i?

It's true though, a good woman is more than any man ever needs.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:12 AM   #114
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No you daft fuck, we were first on ground in Afghanistan, WE were there we hunted them, we fought them we had them and then came the order of complete withdrawal of all ground personell along with all air support.

We fucking had them, we could have ended Al Qaueda right then and there but we were not allowed to do so.

This is no fucking conspiracy story, it's available information, everyone can look it up and not care but one thing changed.

No more NATO rules will be written by those not keen to go to war just to lose and believe you me, anyone who died in Iraq died because of politics, because of a need to continue the war on terror, not one soldier was allowed to fight terrorists from the day it was decided that we offered Al Quaeda free passage in Afghanistan.

And yes, that was a standing order not to engage the enemy in any way. I don't care anymore, i'm just bored out of my fucking skull.
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I'm betting it does little more than potentiate feelings of hostility...
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:49 AM   #115
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Well I guess we have a military policy genius here.
It doesn't take a PhD in International Relations from Princeton to realize that COIN was destined to fail in an incompatible nation with insufficient troops and a war still raging inside of it. Oh wait...
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I think the problem is that he's a stupid twat that should never have had any responsibility of anything in his pathetic little life.

I have served under several US generals as a part of NATO and the last one i served with honor was Wesley Clark.

No surprise that the job got done quick and we left with less security than we have in most nations after that.

Paturanus was awesome, he didn't have a fucking clue but otoh he didn't give a sheit either, might have been most excellent if it was a fucking college roadtrip but we were at war.
Oh god, your lying ass is back. Everyone with a brain knows that you're a despicable liar who makes up bullshit about having served in the SAS. You don't know a damned thing about the military, you're just a walt who goes around spewing lies behind the anonymity of the internet. Pretty much the most pathetic specimen of humanity imaginable.
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