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Old 11-07-2012, 03:49 PM   #2026
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My plan is to buy 500 rounds of 9mm and 750 rounds of 5.45x39mm every month. .22LR, too, depending on how much of that I shoot. Those are the only caliber firearms I own.

I might pick up something in 7.62 later. Or maybe even an AR, god forbid.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:53 PM   #2028
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I like the heft of the bullets. Wonder what it feels like when you have like 1-2K of them all together.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:23 PM   #2029
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I like the heft of the bullets. Wonder what it feels like when you have like 1-2K of them all together.
Dunno, I've got 1.2k .223 rounds including some green tipped steel core rounds...not that heavy. .223 is also insanely cheap. .45 rounds weigh more. Heh.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:32 PM   #2030
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Which election are you talking about? Because Century Arms AKs have been over $450 for like 2 years now..
i said "the last election"
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:41 PM   #2031
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Dunno, I've got 1.2k .223 rounds including some green tipped steel core rounds...not that heavy. .223 is also insanely cheap. .45 rounds weigh more. Heh.
1000 rounds of .223 is about 28 lbs or so.
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1000 rounds of .223 is about 28 lbs or so.
Sounds about right.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:52 PM   #2033
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I like the heft of the bullets. Wonder what it feels like when you have like 1-2K of them all together.
I just got in 2400 coated lead bullets; 200 grain, .40 cal. USPS weight on the box says 65lbs. Those are just bullets though, not completed rounds.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:07 PM   #2034
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I just got in 2400 coated lead bullets; 200 grain, .40 cal. USPS weight on the box says 65lbs. Those are just bullets though, not completed rounds.
My last purchase of 223 bullets (FMJBT 55gr) was for 6k bullets and weighed around 48 pounds i think it was.

Ive gotten to know my usps lady...shes older (early 60s) and anytime i order reloading stuff she knocks on my door for me to unload it from her truck (which i dont mind at all)since its almost always 45+ pounds of stuff


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My plan is to buy 500 rounds of 9mm and 750 rounds of 5.45x39mm every month. .22LR, too, depending on how much of that I shoot. Those are the only caliber firearms I own.

I might pick up something in 7.62 later. Or maybe even an AR, god forbid.
Where you picking up 5.45x39 in 750 rounds? Or you going for brass cased instead of surplus? Just curious since mostly i see it in 1080 packs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:49 PM   #2035
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I've already picked up about 1800 rounds of 7.62 NATO in the last two months.

Not because Obama was going to get re-elected, but because I came across some really good deals.

Just added 1000 rounds of 44 Mag last week, and will get 1000 rounds of 357 Mag this week.

Also picked up 880 rounds of 7.62x54r in sealed spam cans.

I'm doing okay on .45ACP, but almost out of 9mm and .22LR. Luckily, those calibers are common and don't fluctuate in price as much as rifle rounds (especially .223/5.56). I'll rebuild my cache of 9mm/.22LR during my weekly trips to Wallyworld.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:55 PM   #2036
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:01 PM   #2037
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I've already picked up about 1800 rounds of 7.62 NATO in the last two months.

Not because Obama was going to get re-elected, but because I came across some really good deals.

Just added 1000 rounds of 44 Mag last week, and will get 1000 rounds of 357 Mag this week.6). I'll rebuild my cache of 9mm/.22LR during my weekly trips to Wallyworld.
How much did you pay for the 44 and 762 NATO?
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:42 PM   #2038
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My last purchase of 223 bullets (FMJBT 55gr) was for 6k bullets and weighed around 48 pounds i think it was.
A 20 round box weighs half a pound, so it's about 40 per pound. If you had 6000 it would be at least 150 pounds.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:51 PM   #2039
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How much did you pay for the 44 and 762 NATO?
The 7.62 NATO was from a variety of sources; I paid anywhere from 30 cents/round to 55 cents/round. I don't really like paying more than 50 cents/round, but it was really good new production NATO surplus with some of the best re-loadable brass I've ever seen.

The 44 Mag was part of a package deal with my dream wheel gun; pics are coming shortly. I can't really come up with a price of the ammo individually, but let's just say I picked up an $800 (street price) revolver and the ammo for under $1000.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:25 PM   #2040
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A 20 round box weighs half a pound, so it's about 40 per pound. If you had 6000 it would be at least 150 pounds.
Well, it seems like he was talking about the bullets only, not loaded ammo..

6000 x 55 Grains=330,000 Grains.
330,000/7000=47 lbs.
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Well, it seems like he was talking about the bullets only, not loaded ammo..

6000 x 55 Grains=330,000 Grains.
330,000/7000=47 lbs.
You're right, that must be it.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:05 AM   #2042
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Damn, you guys are hoarding up all the ammo. I have only about 200 rounds of .223.
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A 20 round box weighs half a pound, so it's about 40 per pound. If you had 6000 it would be at least 150 pounds.
note i said 6k BULLETS.

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Damn, you guys are hoarding up all the ammo. I have only about 200 rounds of .223.
All mine ammo was bought in bulk (1k +) over time. Not like i go buy it all at once. Rather once a month or so I pick up either 1k loaded ammo (for say 5.45x39) or 200 bucks or so worth of reloading components.

That and i keep an eye out for the deals. I wont pay more than .035 cents per a round for 22lr


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The 44 Mag was part of a package deal with my dream wheel gun; pics are coming shortly. I can't really come up with a price of the ammo individually, but let's just say I picked up an $800 (street price) revolver and the ammo for under $1000.
Sounds like you got a dang good deal then! last time i checked 44mag was around 450 per 1k for the cheap stuff.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:42 AM   #2044
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I'm sure this was covered in the prior threads, but what are you guys using for defensive loads?

I'm using Hornady Critical Defense 9mm rounds and I love the accuracy of the rounds only problem that I face is that it's only 115gr rounds.

I might move onto an Underwood round soon but I"m scared to try to +P+ rounds in the gun but I know people use +P rounds in my gun. (Walther PPS)
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I have been using federal hydra-shok for my 357mag and 9mm. Seems to work fine from what I've read. Only use it cause I got four boxes of each caliber for free about a year ago though
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:58 AM   #2046
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I'm sure this was covered in the prior threads, but what are you guys using for defensive loads?

I'm using Hornady Critical Defense 9mm rounds and I love the accuracy of the rounds only problem that I face is that it's only 115gr rounds.

I might move onto an Underwood round soon but I"m scared to try to +P+ rounds in the gun but I know people use +P rounds in my gun. (Walther PPS)
Standard Pressure .45 Speer Gold Dots and .380 Hornady Critical Defense.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:22 AM   #2048
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+p +p+ are different pressure ratings. by altering the blend and amount of gunpowder (burn rate, size, shape of granule) the pressure and duration of combustion can be changed to generate more velocity.

primary downside is that most bullet casings are only rated for so much pressure and depend on the chamber/barrel to fully surround the casing at the junction between the sides and the base(weakest point) to contain the pressure. shooting to much hot ammo in reloads/handloads can increase risk of blown out casing if the feed ramp cutout doesnt offer enough support.

also excess power is unburned in shorter barrel guns, leading to more muzzle flash or noise, and possible unburned powder spewed in front of the shooter. since some grains of powder can be accelerated to trans-sonic speed slipping by the bullet during firing, high pressure ammo can also have a sandblasting effect on barrel rifling over long periods of time.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:29 AM   #2049
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When I finally get my own pistol (likely this weekend), I'm going in for Federal HST rounds.

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Can someone explain how +P and/or +P+ ammo works? I see that theyre the same weight and stuff, so how exactly does it differ?
Anything with a +P rating means "overpressured," and is designed to send the round at a higher velocity to impart more power. This is what they refer to rounds that have "hotter" loads. +P is an actual SAAMI standard, and many pistols can handle +P (and will mention so in their manuals). +P+ is a higher level of overpressure, unstandardized, and not recommended for use in most firearms for that reason. Using either will exert more wear on your pistol than using standard loads.
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I'm sure this was covered in the prior threads, but what are you guys using for defensive loads?
If you can find it, Federal HST 124gr or 147gr are excellent defensive rounds.

But you can't go wrong with the tried and true classics; Speer Gold Dot or Hornady Critical Defense.

For my 44MAG, I've got Hornady XTP 200gr.
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