Go Back   AnandTech Forums > Social > The Garage

Forums
· Hardware and Technology
· CPUs and Overclocking
· Motherboards
· Video Cards and Graphics
· Memory and Storage
· Power Supplies
· Cases & Cooling
· SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs
· Networking
· Peripherals
· General Hardware
· Highly Technical
· Computer Help
· Home Theater PCs
· Consumer Electronics
· Digital and Video Cameras
· Mobile Devices & Gadgets
· Audio/Video & Home Theater
· Software
· Software for Windows
· All Things Apple
· *nix Software
· Operating Systems
· Programming
· PC Gaming
· Console Gaming
· Distributed Computing
· Security
· Social
· Off Topic
· Politics and News
· Discussion Club
· Love and Relationships
· The Garage
· Health and Fitness
· Merchandise and Shopping
· For Sale/Trade
· Hot Deals with Free Stuff/Contests
· Black Friday 2014
· Forum Issues
· Technical Forum Issues
· Personal Forum Issues
· Suggestion Box
· Moderator Resources
· Moderator Discussions
   

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-07-2012, 11:13 AM   #1
Fritzo
Lifer
 
Fritzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 36,808
Default Deal or No Deal - 1999 BMW M3

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...752589&aff=aol

Quote:

Must See, Low Mileage, Very Well Taken Care Of, Responsibly Owned & Highly Maintained, Brand New Brakes & Rotors, A Local Trade, Non-Smoker, Car Fax Certified No Accident/Damage Reported, All Season Insulated Power Soft Top, Leather Interior, Dual Power heated Seats, Wood Grain Interior Package, Harman Kardon Premium Sound, Power Windows, Power Door Locks, Power Mirrors, Traction & Stability Control, Excellent Condition. This M3 Has Been Fully Serviced And Has Undergone A Full Inspection/Reconditioning Process And is Ready To Go,
Clean, fast, cheap, low miles, and a drop top! This guy should get you to 60mph in under 6 seconds and the suspension will make if seem like you're driving on flypaper. Looks good! What'cha think?
__________________
Also, from now on, I shall refer to you as "Peaches."

Last edited by allisolm; 11-07-2012 at 12:03 PM. Reason: moved from OT
Fritzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:16 AM   #2
rasczak
Lifer
 
rasczak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 10,406
Default

Nice. I like it.
__________________
You cannot beat the cock no matter where you go. - Rubycon
rasczak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:17 AM   #3
FelixDeCat
Lifer
 
FelixDeCat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 21,592
Default

If its under $10k and under 100,000 miles, I say go for it.
FelixDeCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:17 AM   #4
Saint Nick
Lifer
 
Saint Nick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Land of Ooze
Posts: 17,695
Default

Looks awesome. I'm not a fan of convertibles. I really love that same model but in a coupe. Does anyone remember BMWfilms?
__________________
Be kind; everyone is in the midst of a struggle. | heatware (64-0-0)
Saint Nick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:18 AM   #5
CraigRT
Lifer
 
CraigRT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: London, ON, Canada
Posts: 31,443
Default

My favorite M3 ever.. If you want a 'vert, that is a damn good choice.
__________________
My Cannondale
My Specialized
CraigRT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:20 AM   #6
Vdubchaos
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,586
Default

Link doesn't work.

Big question is how many miles and how much?

E36 M3 is a great car but underpowered in US. It's a bored out 2.8 liter Inline 6 and not a TRUE motorsports engine.

It does handle great.

as any used car, it comes down to service records. DO NOT even touch without them.

These cars are hard to find in good condition/well taken care of and at low price.

Also as far as straight line performance goes, these are mid/low 14 second cars.......something most current Family sedans can do fairly easy. It's no speed demon by ANY measure.

But still a great car. I like the design over ANY new BMW. E46 was nice but sounded like crap. I'm old school, if you were to ask me
E30>E36 > E46 > everything after (I'm not a fan of new BMW designs, too busy/ugly for my taste).
Vdubchaos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:20 AM   #7
Fritzo
Lifer
 
Fritzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 36,808
Default

It's an automatic though...I feel you need a manual for a proper M3. This one has the 3.2L I6 24V MPFI DOHC and is under $12000.

(fixed link)
__________________
Also, from now on, I shall refer to you as "Peaches."
Fritzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:22 AM   #8
FelixDeCat
Lifer
 
FelixDeCat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 21,592
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritzo View Post
It's an automatic though...I feel you need a manual for a proper M3.

(fixed link)
Its pretty. The seats are little tired and things are expensive to fix. Check the condition of the top. Ive had 3 convertibles - two were brand new and one was used.

I used to prefer manuals but now that Im old and no longer care about peel outs, etc, autos are good for enjoying a slurpee in stop and go traffic and no shifting / clutch riding.

$8500 - $9500 max I would pay.
FelixDeCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:25 AM   #9
Vdubchaos
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,586
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritzo View Post
It's an automatic though...I feel you need a manual for a proper M3. This one has the 3.2L I6 24V MPFI DOHC and is under $12000.

(fixed link)
Auto is a deal breaker for me.

Although these did come with the first 5 speed transmissions on US market car.....along with Audi A4.

So it has 70k not bad.

That's not a bad price but I would not touch it without ALL the service records history.
Vdubchaos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:28 AM   #10
God Mode
Platinum Member
 
God Mode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,902
Default

Forget service records and all that nonsense. Take it to a BMW dealership and get a PPI inspection or go home. It's about $150-200 and well worth avoiding the potential headache. Old euro cars with problems = a bad time. This is why the resale value on so many of them drop like a rock once the warranty period is over.
God Mode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:31 AM   #11
GagHalfrunt
Lifer
 
GagHalfrunt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 17,523
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by God Mode View Post
Forget service records and all that nonsense. Take it to a BMW dealership and get a PPI inspection or go home. It's about $150-200 and well worth avoiding the potential headache. Old euro cars with problems = a bad time. This is why the resale value on so many of them drop like a rock once the warranty period is over.
That.

And even with a good report, tread carefully. It's at the age and mileage where a lot of things are going to go wrong and in an M3 those things are expensive. That low price is only a fraction of what you'd likely spend on the car over the next two years.
__________________
"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.." - Thomas Paine The Age of Reason

http://www.golfbiztalk.com
GagHalfrunt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:38 AM   #12
Vdubchaos
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,586
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by God Mode View Post
Forget service records and all that nonsense. Take it to a BMW dealership and get a PPI inspection or go home. It's about $150-200 and well worth avoiding the potential headache. Old euro cars with problems = a bad time. This is why the resale value on so many of them drop like a rock once the warranty period is over.
Still need service records but PPI inspection would be a good thing to do as well.

You DO NOT want a neglected car (as far as maintenance goes). Especially one that's German.

I would say Service records are MORE important than inspection. Remember paying BMW to go over your car and tell you if there is anything wrong is not in their best interest PRIOR to you buying the car.

Heck they might hide things from you just so you come back with plenty of business.

Also, anyone buying this car should have VERY good knowledge/experience about these cars.

If this is some kind of "ohh look it's an M3, it would be cool to have" impulse buy...stay away.

What exactly are you looking for OP?

Last edited by Vdubchaos; 11-07-2012 at 11:42 AM.
Vdubchaos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:54 AM   #13
God Mode
Platinum Member
 
God Mode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,902
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vdubchaos View Post
Still need service records but PPI inspection would be a good thing to do as well.

You DO NOT want a neglected car (as far as maintenance goes). Especially one that's German.

I would say Service records are MORE important than inspection. Remember paying BMW to go over your car and tell you if there is anything wrong is not in their best interest PRIOR to you buying the car.

Heck they might hide things from you just so you come back with plenty of business.

Also, anyone buying this car should have VERY good knowledge/experience about these cars.

If this is some kind of "ohh look it's an M3, it would be cool to have" impulse buy...stay away.

What exactly are you looking for OP?
You have no clue if you think the dealership will risk a pissed off service customer by lying to them over an expensive 150-200 inspection. A PPI tells you the current condition of the car, if the TSB's were performed and if any part has significant wear, engine compression etc etc. Service records can be fudged and tells the potential buyer nothing about the pitfalls of the car in its current condition.
God Mode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 11:58 AM   #14
Zeze
Diamond Member
 
Zeze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 7,138
Default

Good luck paying for ridiculous repair costs of a 13 yo M3. That'll make the car's cost of 10K feel like nothing.
Zeze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 12:02 PM   #15
96Firebird
Diamond Member
 
96Firebird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 3,026
Default

Wrong forum - http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2281126

Eeeerrr - http://forums.anandtech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49
__________________
i5-2500k @ 4.5GHz| Corsair A50 | ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 | 8GB DDR3-1600 | EVGA GTX 970 SC w/ACX | XFX Core 750W PSU | 64GB Crucial M4 SSD | Corsair 400r

BF4: JDubz313
96Firebird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 12:07 PM   #16
Puppies04
Diamond Member
 
Puppies04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,858
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vdubchaos View Post
E36 M3 is a great car but underpowered in US. It's a bored out 2.8 liter Inline 6 and not a TRUE motorsports engine.
It is 12 years old lol, stick it on a track (these involve corners that turn in different directions not just a big oval if you weren't quite sure)with just about any 400bhp American made "sports car" with their awesome horse and cart suspension and it will win hands down .
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by moonbogg View Post
If you have kids, you need to kill them
My weddding pic http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps224f2a90.png
Puppies04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 12:12 PM   #17
SKORPI0
Lifer
 
SKORPI0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: I'm from the internet
Posts: 12,082
Default

It's $14,990 at their own website.

http://coasttocoastimports.com/vehic...le/453673.html

I wouldn't touch that not unless I'm a car mechanic/replace parts myself.
Labor is expensive if you don't know how to DIY.
__________________
HP TouchPad - Dual boot Android CM10 (Jelly Bean 4.12) and webOS (F4 Phantom Kernel).
Anandtech Off Topic [Archive] - May 2000-present
i7 3930k @ 4.3GHz @ 1.28v, Asus Sabertooth X79, 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3 1866, PNY GTX 680 4GB, CM HAF 932 Advanced, CM Silent Pro Gold 1kW.
NZXT Kraken X60 PULL, Samsung 830 128gb SSD (Windows 7), Kingston
SSDNow V300 120gb (OS X 10.8.2), Dual Yamakasi 2703, Logitech MK320.
SKORPI0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 12:20 PM   #18
bigpimpatl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 474
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by God Mode View Post
You have no clue if you think the dealership will risk a pissed off service customer by lying to them over an expensive 150-200 inspection. A PPI tells you the current condition of the car, if the TSB's were performed and if any part has significant wear, engine compression etc etc. Service records can be fudged and tells the potential buyer nothing about the pitfalls of the car in its current condition.
Economically, the dealership/repair shop has no incentive to tell you everything that is wrong with the car. They want your future business. You have to go to someone you trust.
__________________
Heat: bigpimpatl 6-0 and counting
bigpimpatl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 12:21 PM   #19
halik
Lifer
 
halik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 25,055
Default

Better deal imo (convertibles,autotragics aren't as desirable):

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...very-rare.html
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamurAchzar View Post
It seems like people want to bend reality any way they wish. Jobs are created by economic activity, and this economic activity happens because of self-made people of all races and colors that are motivated by greed. The sooner we understand it the better we are.
halik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 12:30 PM   #20
Vdubchaos
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,586
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puppies04 View Post
It is 12 years old lol, stick it on a track (these involve corners that turn in different directions not just a big oval if you weren't quite sure)with just about any 400bhp American made "sports car" with their awesome horse and cart suspension and it will win hands down .
I REALLY hope you are kidding...

350hp vette (which btw cost less than M3 back in 99) would spank the M3 on just about any track of your choice.

I won't even get into reliability, cost to fix/maintain and especially modify.

Not even a contest.

Last edited by Vdubchaos; 11-07-2012 at 12:33 PM.
Vdubchaos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 12:31 PM   #21
Zargon
Lifer
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: IL
Posts: 11,842
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puppies04 View Post
It is 12 years old lol, stick it on a track (these involve corners that turn in different directions not just a big oval if you weren't quite sure)with just about any 400bhp American made "sports car" with their awesome horse and cart suspension and it will win hands down .
__________________
heatware | steam | ebay
Reaumur(Gamer): Silverstone Raven02, Antec HCG900, Z77 Fata1ity/3770K, 16GB DDR3-1833, 2x7950@1Ghz, 27" IPS
Kelvin(3D-HTPC):Q9550 w/H50, P5G41, 4GB DDR2-1066, 5870 w accellero xtreme
Chill(Server): Thuban x6@3.3 wH50 8gb ddr3 4x1.5tb ESXi
Zargon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 01:32 PM   #22
Fmr12B
Diamond Member
 
Fmr12B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 6,639
Default

Beautiful car - my favorite BMW of all time. Although the old 80's M6 is a close 2nd.

Biggest drawback is the plastic rear window - its not glass and clouds easily. The suspension on these is rock hard.
Fmr12B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 01:34 PM   #23
Arkaign
Lifer
 
Arkaign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 19,249
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puppies04 View Post
It is 12 years old lol, stick it on a track (these involve corners that turn in different directions not just a big oval if you weren't quite sure)with just about any 400bhp American made "sports car" with their awesome horse and cart suspension and it will win hands down .
Hahahaha, not even that.

Put it on a track against a new Mustang V6 and it'll get it's ass handed to it. Handily.

Not that I don't like M3s. An automatic US-Spec E36 M3 is hardly a rocket though. It's just an enjoyable car to drive.
__________________
Death is the answer.
Arkaign is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 01:44 PM   #24
jlee
Lifer
 
jlee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: AZ
Posts: 44,436
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puppies04
It is 12 years old lol, stick it on a track (these involve corners that turn in different directions not just a big oval if you weren't quite sure)with just about any 400bhp American made "sports car" with their awesome horse and cart suspension and it will win hands down .
Challenge accepted.
jlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 01:45 PM   #25
manimal
Lifer
 
manimal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Carmel, Indiana
Posts: 11,024
Default

lol coast to coast! I drive by there every day. They usually have clean cars that are a bit overpriced.


Auto vert e36s are somewhat meh to me.
__________________
GA-EX58-UD3R 920 i7 4.2 5870@900/1300
GA-P55-UD3R i5 750 3.8 w/ turbo 280GTX 9600GSO
GA-MA-790FXT UD5P 1090T X6 @ 4.1 24/7 Xfire 4890
M4a79 DLX 805 X4 L3 6MB 3.25 NB 2450 Xfire 4850
58 PZ85U 50G10 52a650 PLV1080HD PJ all calibrated
120 Inch Screen -speakercraft Mzc66 8 zone audio
manimal is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.