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Old 10-28-2012, 08:04 AM   #26
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Here we are 4 hours since windows 8 re instalation started and it's only at 59% of resetting my PC's 1 TB hard drive. It said it would take much longer but this is getting ridiculous

I have never had any problems with Norton before and have been using it for a decade.

This is the first and last time I try to do an OS update on top of the previous OS.
i have my own probs with win8 but seriously? norton? god!
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Old 10-28-2012, 08:38 AM   #27
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OK every thing seems to be running stable for now. After the clean install I was still getting some display driver crashes so I went to the AMD site to get the latest display driver. For some unbelievable reason, the official AMD windows 8 display driver version 12.10 at the AMD/ATI official site will not run. Here is the error message:

Installer Integrity check has failed blah blah damaged media....
I tried it on my laptop also with the same result.

UN[redacted] believable.

HOWEVER, the BETA display drivers worked just fine. I just can't believe this [redacted].
I have not had any display driver crashes with the beta driver.

If I start Chrome in metro, all my log in information is already saved in the browser however if I start Chrome from the desktop I have to enter all my login information AGAIN!!! Strange.

Norton is re installed and running fine. I love Norton, it's kept my PCs safe for 10 years.

I find it disconcerting not to be able to drag the mouse down to the task bar to switch application or just to check the time. I have to learn new tricks.

I really like the new mail application, all my email account all in one spot. Easy to use, nice interface.

I was posting some adds in Kijiji last night and you can now choose multiple pictures at the same time with the browser instead of the back and forth you had to do for each picture before. Wow, fantastic, a real time saver.

I had to download the win8 network driver from MSI. The one provided by Microsoft would stop working randomly. Working fine now.

All and all I have mixed fillings, it will take some getting use to.

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Old 10-28-2012, 08:50 AM   #28
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There is no love for Norton in here, LOL.

I do think Norton did screw up the install. I had previously installed Win8 preview on this machine on an empty disk drive and the install had gone perfectly at the time.

Lesson learned, never again will I do an install over a previous installation. This was the first time I tried it, out of laziness. Not worth it for sure and it's always better to start with a clean state anyway.

I installed K-Lite codec pack, it's working magnificently. I have been using this for years on all my computers and just love the extra capabilities.
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OK every thing seems to be running stable for now. After the clean install I was still getting some display driver crashes so I went to the AMD site to get the latest display driver. For some unbelievable reason, the official AMD windows 8 display driver version 12.10 at the AMD/ATI official site will not run. Here is the error message:

Installer Integrity check has failed blah blah damaged media....
I tried it on my laptop also with the same result.

UN[redacted] believable.

HOWEVER, the BETA display drivers worked just fine. I just can't believe this [redacted].
I have not had any display driver crashes with the beta driver.

If I start Chrome in metro, all my log in information is already saved in the browser however if I start Chrome from the desktop I have to enter all my login information AGAIN!!! Strange.

Norton is re installed and running fine. I love Norton, it's kept my PCs safe for 10 years.

I find it disconcerting not to be able to drag the mouse down to the task bar to switch application or just to check the time. I have to learn new tricks.

I really like the new mail application, all my email account all in one spot. Easy to use, nice interface.

I was posting some adds in Kijiji last night and you can now choose multiple pictures at the same time with the browser instead of the back and forth you had to do for each picture before. Wow, fantastic, a real time saver.

I had to download the win8 network driver from MSI. The one provided by Microsoft would stop working randomly. Working fine now.

All and all I have mixed fillings, it will take some getting use to.

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Old 10-28-2012, 09:06 AM   #30
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Hehe well I'm 3 for 3 now on Win8 Pro smooth installs,just going to copy and paste my reply from my OCuK forum account .


Just upgraded my second PC to Win8 Pro,in this case my 15.6" Samsung NP550P5C laptop,it went smooth,had to uninstall a few things like Samsung software and Intel bluetooth,USB 3.0,MSE,however Samsung had some new software out and also new BIOS and sound drivers which I installed before the upgrade(Samsung software I did after the upgrade).

My Samsung boots quicker now then it did with Win7 and battery life has definitely improved,well worth the 14.99 upgrade.

This time I made an ISO Win8 Pro DVD (via the Microsoft upgrade assistant program)and then went back to Microsoft upgrade program and carried on with the upgrade via digital download.


I also installed WMC as well,no issues.

Two computers with Win8 Pro and WMC installed for 40 quid ,not bad at all .
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:45 PM   #31
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lenovo thinkpad t400.

had three missing drivers in device manager, even though the computer still worked fine.

the site only has 3 installation options for win8. the intel chipset drivers didn't do much.

installed the memory card reader software built for win7, works fine.
installed intel AMT drivers for the embedded host controller (pci comm. controller), works fine.
no more missing drivers.
risked a blue screen doing this, but so what.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:38 PM   #32
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Good to read that most people are not having problems.

I enabled all the green options in the BIOS, turned on the computer and logged in, then went out to do some yard work.
When I came back, the computer would not wake up with the mouse and I actually had to press the on/off switch and hold it for the computer to come back on.

It booted up to a usable Chrome windows amazingly fast. Unbelievable. I am going to play some more with this to get it to wake up with the mouse.
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have you noticed that USB 3.0 is not working with Windows 8. Speeds are as USB 2.0..
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:51 PM   #34
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people actually install Norton, I always though it said "delete me" under the icon
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I've upgraded 2 machines from Windows 7 Pro to Windows 8 Pro. The only issues I've had are having to reinstall a couple programs. VMware Workstation and Slysoft Virtual Clone Drive. Upon reinstall they work flawlessly.

I only use my laptop to browse the web and write documents so I save all my documents to my desktop and upgraded. Wasn't worried if I had to re-install or lost everything. Worked flawlessly. No issues with Norton 360 either.

Did my desktop last night. Ran another backup of my machine and verified the backup in case something happened. Upgrade went about as smooth as I could have expected. Only had to uninstall/install VMware Workstation, Virtual Clone Drive, and my USB 3 drivers. The USB 3 drives were auto detected during the install and everything works great.

Played StarCraft 2 last night for a couple hours after upgrading to Windows 8 and had no problems whatsoever.

Have Start8 running and I'm digging it so far.
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UPDATE.
It's been getting worst, multiple display driver crash every day, sound quitting in Chrome and having to shut it off and restart the application.
Last night, Chrome would not connect to the internet anymore, a reboot would not fix it. I used IE and bing to find and download the chrome installation files only to end up on a malware site that installed viruses on my PC. Norton apparently stopped it. I shut every thing down and proceeded to do a windows repair only to end up with all my applications uninstalled and back to a clean win8 state.

THATS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reinstalling win 7 as I type.

They tried to reinvent the wheel with Win8, they made it square.

I have upgraded to every new version of windows since 3.1. I have never had so many problems with any of the previous versions. Win8 is a piece of unmitigated GARBAGE.

Typing from my win7 laptop.
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How did you manage to go to a malware site for chrome, that is pretty hard to imagine.
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have you noticed that USB 3.0 is not working with Windows 8. Speeds are as USB 2.0..
Works extremely well for me. Maybe try a driver update?
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UPDATE.
It's been getting worst, multiple display driver crash every day, sound quitting in Chrome and having to shut it off and restart the application.
Last night, Chrome would not connect to the internet anymore, a reboot would not fix it. I used IE and bing to find and download the chrome installation files only to end up on a malware site that installed viruses on my PC. Norton apparently stopped it. I shut every thing down and proceeded to do a windows repair only to end up with all my applications uninstalled and back to a clean win8 state.

THATS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reinstalling win 7 as I type.

They tried to reinvent the wheel with Win8, they made it square.

I have upgraded to every new version of windows since 3.1. I have never had so many problems with any of the previous versions. Win8 is a piece of unmitigated GARBAGE.

Typing from my win7 laptop.
I dunno man, it works pretty well for me :S

Lots of manufacturers have been releasing Windows 8 driver, are you sure you got the latest version for your hardware?
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How did you manage to go to a malware site for chrome, that is pretty hard to imagine.
Haha no kidding....wth right? This whole thread sounds like a pebkac error to me.
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Haha no kidding....wth right? This whole thread sounds like a pebkac error to me.
I was just going to say this. Pebkac is the root cause with these issues. I still think it's funny he's still running Norton when it just let some malware through. Ironically, if he had just used Metro IE like Microsoft wanted him to, he probably wouldn't have gotten the malware. Microsoft can only do so much to save people from themselves. I still get display driver crashes with my AMD 7770 card every couple days and I'm still on Win7. I don't blame Microsoft, I blame AMD for crappy drivers and me for not going with recommendations to get the more mature AMD 6850.
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Back online with Windows 7 on my PC. No more display driver crashes. Norton confirmed there are no infections on any of the drives. Aero is back on and looking good.


GOOD RIDDANCE Win 8!

Hopefully MS will be back to it's senses for the next version.
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Back online with Windows 7 on my PC. No more display driver crashes. Norton confirmed there are no infections on any of the drives. Aero is back on and looking good.


GOOD RIDDANCE Win 8!

Hopefully MS will be back to it's senses for the next version.
Then you get somebody else moaning lol on Win9,10 etc..end of the day I don't think its a Windows 8 issue you have but something else(always easy to blame OS when you don't know what the cause is),finding the cause is the hard bit,just to rub salt in your wound I've installed a few more games and even old ones like Baldur's Gate working great,still no issues for me on any of my three Win8 Pro PCs,rock solid Win8 has been .


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Yea, I feel your pain..ive learned to stay away from MS OS until SP1...
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Then you get somebody else moaning lol on Win9,10 etc..end of the day I don't think its a Windows 8 issue you have but something else(always easy to blame OS when you don't know what the cause is),finding the cause is the hard bit,just to rub salt in your wound I've installed a few more games and even old ones like Baldur's Gate working great,still no issues for me on any of my three Win8 Pro PCs,rock solid Win8 has been .


I've no sympathy for anybody that uses Norton .
The funny thing is that Win9 will be a polishing of Win8 and everyone will love it. As much as people crapped on Vista, Win7 is just a polished version of it and yet some people swear they will use Win7 until they die now. Win8 has some rough edges right now but the core is there. My Surface has already received a SP worth of updates to the built in apps so I do believe they aren't just going to let Win8 sit in the market for three years before Win9. I wouldn't be surprised if Win8 gets a massive update by next fall. However, for those wanting Windows to return to something like Win7, you may as well give up now. It's not going to happen. Metro is here and isn't going anywhere.
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The funny thing is that Win9 will be a polishing of Win8 and everyone will love it. As much as people crapped on Vista, Win7 is just a polished version of it and yet some people swear they will use Win7 until they die now. Win8 has some rough edges right now but the core is there. My Surface has already received a SP worth of updates to the built in apps so I do believe they aren't just going to let Win8 sit in the market for three years before Win9. I wouldn't be surprised if Win8 gets a massive update by next fall. However, for those wanting Windows to return to something like Win7, you may as well give up now. It's not going to happen. Metro is here and isn't going anywhere.
I think this is a bit of a silly thing to say. For several reasons.

Firstly, Win 7 is indeed how Vista should have been in the first place. That doesn't invalidate the original criticisms of Vista. I don't quite see where you get that from. Vista got a whole lot better with service packs, but on release it was bloated, had a horrible file-copy bug, and had features (mainly aero) that were actually too demanding for the hardware most users had at the time (and this wasn't made clear to purchasers). It also was built around paranoia about DRM and copyright issues, something that worried some people (though, to be fair, that seems to have turned out not to be a problem), Oh, and it broke EAX. And had masses of driver issues (partly because of the way it incorporated so much DRM supporting stuff).

7 didn't have those downsides and further improved Vista's genuine pluses. That made it a more acceptable upgrade to XP for many.

The other reason I think your comment is a bit silly is your remark about 'isn't going to return to something like windows 7'.. When of course it already _is_ 'something like windows 7'. Its a _lot_ like windows 7, it just has no aero and no start menu. Oh, and it has an alternate touch-oriented UI - but if you are using touch that's a _good_ thing, and if you aren't it wouldn't matter except for the start menu problem.

So if you mean by windows 9 being 'a polishing of 7' you mean 'it will stop forcing desktop users to deal with Metro' or 'will find a compromise way of using Metro for desktop users that isn't annoying', then, yeah, I'm sure if that happened people would be happy with it.

But that contradicts your (curiously macho - as if in your mind you are some sort of official spokesperson for MS!) comment about how a return to 'something like 7' 'is not going to happen'..
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Oh, though, have to say, that while I can imagine one day using Windows 8, I find it harder to imagine ever using Norton.
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I think this is a bit of a silly thing to say. For several reasons.

Firstly, Win 7 is indeed how Vista should have been in the first place. That doesn't invalidate the original criticisms of Vista. I don't quite see where you get that from. Vista got a whole lot better with service packs, but on release it was bloated, had a horrible file-copy bug, and had features (mainly aero) that were actually too demanding for the hardware most users had at the time (and this wasn't made clear to purchasers). It also was built around paranoia about DRM and copyright issues, something that worried some people (though, to be fair, that seems to have turned out not to be a problem), Oh, and it broke EAX. And had masses of driver issues (partly because of the way it incorporated so much DRM supporting stuff).

7 didn't have those downsides and further improved Vista's genuine pluses. That made it a more acceptable upgrade to XP for many.

The other reason I think your comment is a bit silly is your remark about 'isn't going to return to something like windows 7'.. When of course it already _is_ 'something like windows 7'. Its a _lot_ like windows 7, it just has no aero and no start menu. Oh, and it has an alternate touch-oriented UI - but if you are using touch that's a _good_ thing, and if you aren't it wouldn't matter except for the start menu problem.

So if you mean by windows 9 being 'a polishing of 7' you mean 'it will stop forcing desktop users to deal with Metro' or 'will find a compromise way of using Metro for desktop users that isn't annoying', then, yeah, I'm sure if that happened people would be happy with it.

But that contradicts your (curiously macho - as if in your mind you are some sort of official spokesperson for MS!) comment about how a return to 'something like 7' 'is not going to happen'..
The issue is that Vista was not nearly as bad as the hype made it out to be. The core of it was actually a good OS and Win7 really didn't change much, or close enough to justify people deciding Vista was horrible and Win7 is amazing. People jumped on buggy drivers (like the OP is doing right now) and a couple early glitches and wrote off the entire OS. By SP1 a year later, the OS was just fine. However, people were still crapping on it until Win7 came out 1.5 years after SP1. They wrote off Vista more or less due to the negative hype surrounding it even the minor issues were fixed a year later when the hardware companies got their act together. The core of the OS did not change between release date and even Win7, but people decided to just flat out say Vista was a horrible OS and Win7 is great. People quickly forget that WinXP was very buggy at first and really took two SPs to fix.

So, once again, people are writing off an entire OS and UI because Win8 has some rough spots. I understand people deciding to hold off until it's polished, but writing off Win8 and Metro completely is just foolish. Not only that, they hope for it's failure in a return to a Metro-less Win9. Like I said, Metro is here and is not going anywhere. They probably will smooth the transition between Metro and the desktop but they will continue to make the metro start screen the main focus of even the desktop computer. Believing that they will reverse that is a false hope and a reality people need to accept.
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Then you get somebody else moaning lol on Win9,10 etc..end of the day I don't think its a Windows 8 issue you have but something else(always easy to blame OS when you don't know what the cause is),finding the cause is the hard bit,just to rub salt in your wound I've installed a few more games and even old ones like Baldur's Gate working great,still no issues for me on any of my three Win8 Pro PCs,rock solid Win8 has been .


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Update

I bought a full version of win 8.1.
Replaced the HD with an SSD.
Did a clean install.
Everything works, flawlessly.

Go figure.

I am actually liking the new OS.

I also ditched Norton for Bitdefender.
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