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Old 11-05-2012, 11:48 AM   #1
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Angry Stereo Times reviewer holding my $80k power cables for ransom

He is a reviewer for Stereo Times Magazine. I sent him many expensive power cables so he could review them. They took half a year to build, and many years to design, and also cost me $100 to ship them from Sweden to USA, they are very heavy, approx 20 lbs. I sent everything to him for free, he has not paid anything.

After two months he still refuses to send them back if I don't pay hundreds of dollars to him, claiming his old tubes died from my cable. When he switched from my cable to his old cable, the tubes blew, and he says my cable was responsible. Everyone I asked is saying it's not possible and he's trying to scam me.
I need someone who can pick-up these cables at Overland Park, KS 66085. If you live nearby, PM me.

This farce has gone on long enough.
-ViRGE

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Old 11-05-2012, 01:20 PM   #2
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AudioTruth?

80k power cable?

Ransom?

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Old 11-05-2012, 02:28 PM   #3
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You expect some random guy will go pick up your cable from another random guy?
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:29 PM   #4
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I can't tell if this is a joke or not! It could go either way!
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:48 PM   #5
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfNC-yozErk

haha, awesome.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:15 PM   #6
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Now if only this could happen to all of the snake oil in the Audio business... maybe one day we'd have just actual products being sold!
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:18 PM   #7
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What exactly makes these power cables worth as much as a brand new Audi S6? Serious question.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:36 PM   #8
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Well, call the police.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:08 PM   #9
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Well, call the police.
It's most likely going to be civil and not criminal. Unless the OP is willing to come over for a trial they aren't going to do anything anyways.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:47 PM   #10
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80K power cable? Surely you must have some pics to show us.
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Only $100 to ship them. Are you sure you did the translation to USD correctly? I'm sure proper shipping insurance on 80k is at least $500-1000. Secondly, unless they are dipped in gold and make your breakfast, this is just stupid.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:50 PM   #12
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I'm impressed you actually managed to troll people with something so completely absurd. These were prototypes for Monster, right?
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:46 AM   #13
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Repost?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2272280

Couldn't this just have continued?

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Old 11-06-2012, 09:46 AM   #14
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You should sell one to cheez
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:15 PM   #15
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The OP is Patrick BTW.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:06 PM   #16
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So you gave $80K USD cables to a reviewer and now want them back? What does the contract say? I am more than willing to give over $80K to someone without a contract in place because that is smart! /sarcasm.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:52 PM   #17
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Monster is scam, but the other brands such as Audioquest, Kimber, Nordost, Wireworld, Synergistic Research, Ridge Street Audio, etc are not. They do make real serious cables and cause huge difference sonically.
Nordost Vishnu was the first aftermarket power cable I owned, the next was Valhalla ($3000). This was a decade ago, they are beginner cables. I ended up at Virtual Dynamics Judge ($50,000). Then I started building my own cables using the same technology for lower prices and better sound!
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:24 PM   #18
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LOL. First LOL at anyone who thinks these cables make any difference at all, and the second LOL at the idiot reviewer and anyone else who thinks speaker wire caused a tube to blow.
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I do agree that an $80K power cable is snake oil -- and unlikely to "work" any better than a properly-made $20 cable. But that's irrelevant here. If the reviewer makes false claims about the cable having damaged his vacuum tubes (highly unlikely, esp. given that it was the old cable in place when the damage happened) and then effectively holds it "hostage" to extort money from the builder, then the reviewer seems to be at fault. This of course assumes that the agreement was to return the cable after the completion of the review process.

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Old 11-07-2012, 12:23 AM   #20
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So how do these magical power cables work... you have your own SQ generator too that they hook directly into, right?
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:58 AM   #21
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Monster is scam, but the other brands such as Audioquest, Kimber, Nordost, Wireworld, Synergistic Research, Ridge Street Audio, etc are not. They do make real serious cables and cause huge difference sonically.
Please tell me more about how they break the laws of physics.

Any power cable up to spec will work just as any other power cable.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:21 AM   #22
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Please tell me more about how they break the laws of physics.

Any power cable up to spec will work just as any other power cable.
Nothing can break the laws of physics. But the laws can be incomplete, which makes them wrong. Someone said that it was like the laws of physics were overwritten, nobody can explain why it sounded better. Physicists discover new things every day.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:23 AM   #23
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The publisher of Stereo Times said that I will get my cables back ASAP. He is talking to the reviewer now.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:09 AM   #24
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LOL. First LOL at anyone who thinks these cables make any difference at all, and the second LOL at the idiot reviewer and anyone else who thinks speaker wire caused a tube to blow.
Third LOL at the one who didn't try cables. Fourth LOL at the one who doesn't own an audio system. Fifth LOL at the one who doesn't listen to music.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:02 AM   #25
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Another skeptic was turned this week!

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr...s-Just-Say-Yes
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I'm the biggest cable skeptic on the planet. I've never been able to tell the difference between one speaker cable over the other. I've never a/b tested because I just can't handle that sort of thing when all I want to do is listen to music. The power cord however is a whole different beast....

...Right off the bat I had to blink my eyes to make sure I was actually in my house. Everything tightened up with a dead silent background. I feel like a fool for waiting so long to come around on this one. I'm still skeptical of whether or not I will notice a difference when I replace the power cord to my CDP, but if you tell me I'll notice I might believe you. Either way, that's my next investment.
I think everyone are skeptics who haven't tried power cables themselves, I was one of them as well!
Power cables are the best investment in audio, but electronics are the worst! A $31,000 SACD system was worse than a $200 USB DAC with computer running WAV from SSD. Electronics break eventually, but power cables don't, that's why they are the greatest investments. I love power cables, I love to tweak them daily for a decade!
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