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Old 11-04-2012, 10:45 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by DCal430 View Post
Not really in California in order to remove this protection you need:

1. A majority vote in the legislation.
2. The governor approval
3. A majority vote of the people to sign off on it.

So no it isn't easy to remove in the states.
California is just 1 state. There are 49 others. Read the article.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:40 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Jhhnn View Post
California is just 1 state. There are 49 others. Read the article.
State Level civil service protection are also protected by the 14th Amendment. The courts have ruled that state and local employees cannot be fired without due process and hearing from independent panel. This right can never be removed.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:35 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by DCal430 View Post
Contributing to the union for collective bargaining is fine. But why should I be forced to give $500 to the Union PAC in order to vote on my own employment contract.
I thought you were all for unions? Isn't this type of crap common place in unions, after all?
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:45 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by Jhhnn View Post
See DCal's most recent post. It *is* part of normal dues, not something extra.
Originally Posted by DCal430 View Post
In California public employee unions are required to give political contributions to unions often in the hundreds of dollars a year, my union requires a $400 to $600 a year political contribution in order to vote on strikes, wages, working conditions, and other benefits. If I refuse to give the union political money the law denies me any say in my own benefits. Some unions are nicer and require "only" $60 to $100 a year in political contributions.

I am sorry, this was for P&N. I made a mistake.
Buried in the dues for a separate purpose.

My comment was based on his OP.

A turd is still a turd; no matter what you wrap it in and spray it with.
The union is preventing him from normal union related activities beacase he refuses to generate political payoffs to the union.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:47 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by MomentsofSanity View Post
So go work somewhere without a union. Problem solved. Otherwise suck it up. You made your choice.
If a person is required to give political contributions, that person should have the right to dictate where there money goes.
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