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11-03-2012, 04:06 AM
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any 64 bit lunix ready for prime time?
last time i tried a 64 bit distro (it was probably ubuntu) it was buggy and half baked. are the current 64 bit distros good enough that i should switch from 32 bit? what 64 bit distro do you recommend
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11-03-2012, 05:47 AM
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I use OpenSuSE. Damn good distro, and among the best KDE integration around. It's GNOME integration is damn good too.
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11-03-2012, 06:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by imported_brandon
I use OpenSuSE. Damn good distro, and among the best KDE integration around. It's GNOME integration is damn good too.
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so the 64 bit version is pretty stable, it doesnt freeze or crash? how are firefox and chrome for it?
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11-03-2012, 06:32 AM
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Why should there be a difference between 64 bit and 32 bit?
It's the same code, just compiled two different ways...
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11-03-2012, 06:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Rick_
Why should there be a difference between 64 bit and 32 bit?
It's the same code, just compiled two different ways...
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Yes but you need 64 bit drivers for most hardware I assume. Thats not a problem if you are using open source drivers, however, the majority of drivers are not open source, as far as I am aware.
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11-03-2012, 09:09 AM
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That must have been over 6 years ago then, I've been using 64 bit Linux variants for over 5 years and never had any problems. I can't see any good reason you wouldn't go 64 bit, unless you are running arm cores.
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11-03-2012, 09:11 AM
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Lifer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ancalagon44
Yes but you need 64 bit drivers for most hardware I assume. Thats not a problem if you are using open source drivers, however, the majority of drivers are not open source, as far as I am aware.
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Depends. I could run my system(C2D based) on 100% libre drivers, though I am using Nvidia's blobs. There might be some brand new stuff that doesn't have libre drivers, but anything that's been around a couple years should work fine. AFAIK, no distro does one bitness better than another. If you like whatever distro you're using in 32bit, you should like it in 64bit.
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11-03-2012, 10:43 AM
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Lifer
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The 64 bit versions of CentOS 5 and CentOS 6 are rock solid.
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11-03-2012, 11:06 AM
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I've never had any problems with 64bit linux. The only thing that crashes is flash >.>
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11-03-2012, 12:18 PM
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Lifer
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My entire company relies on 64-bit Linux. If it wasn't a stable platform we wouldn't be able to do anything.
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11-03-2012, 12:41 PM
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I've been using 64-bit Linux with virtually no problems on my desktop for like 5 years now and before that on personal Alpha and Sparc64 servers. As Jodell88 says, flash was the only issue I really ran into and that's been fixed for several years now.
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11-03-2012, 12:51 PM
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do they have 64 bit chrome?
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11-03-2012, 01:02 PM
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Lifer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OBLAMA2009
do they have 64 bit chrome?
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Chromium, yes.
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11-03-2012, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OBLAMA2009
do they have 64 bit chrome?
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Yep, been using that for quite some time as well.
Code:
$file /opt/google/chrome/chrome
/opt/google/chrome/chrome: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=0x30554b657174efbde93dfc16a5015f6801c95b7f, stripped
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11-03-2012, 03:30 PM
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I've been using 64-bit Ubuntu since Ubuntu 10.04, and I've never had any problems.
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11-03-2012, 07:00 PM
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There is the occasional app, usually an ancient legacy app, that is only available packaged in the 32-bit version. Those can be run by installing the appropriate 32-bit libraries. But, geez, even flash is 64-bit.
The best Gentoo
Runs on a 64-bit cpu
64
Is so much more.
Eight full bytes
Is out of sight.
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11-04-2012, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ultimatebob
The 64 bit versions of CentOS 5 and CentOS 6 are rock solid.
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Furthermore, RedHat no longer builds all packages for their 32-bit RHEL 6, but does for 64-bit RHEL 6, so truly "32 < 64".
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11-04-2012, 03:52 PM
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Lifer
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I've been using 64-bit Mint 11 for a long time without issue..
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11-07-2012, 01:09 PM
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Lifer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OBLAMA2009
last time i tried a 64 bit distro (it was probably ubuntu) it was buggy and half baked. are the current 64 bit distros good enough that i should switch from 32 bit? what 64 bit distro do you recommend
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That's Ubuntu. 12.10, right now, FI, is still buggy as all Hell. It's an artifact of their development cycle (megafreeze + latest updates).
Try Debian 64-bit, or any number of rolling release distros. I've been running 64-bit Linux since 2007 (C2D upgrade), with nary a 64-bit problem.
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11-08-2012, 06:29 PM
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Lifer
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I'm using 12.10 and it's rock solid. No bugginess whatsoever. I used 12.04 and now 12.10 as my main OS.
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11-09-2012, 05:46 AM
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thanks everyone. i just got mint 64 bit and its fine. im surprised that it seems to take up twice as much memory (about 2 gigs vs 1 gig for 32 bit)
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11-09-2012, 06:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OBLAMA2009
thanks everyone. i just got mint 64 bit and its fine. im surprised that it seems to take up twice as much memory (about 2 gigs vs 1 gig for 32 bit)
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How did you measure that?
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11-09-2012, 07:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OBLAMA2009
thanks everyone. i just got mint 64 bit and its fine. im surprised that it seems to take up twice as much memory (about 2 gigs vs 1 gig for 32 bit)
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No way that's possible.
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11-09-2012, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nothinman
How did you measure that?
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just using the system monitor. i guess memory usage goes up and down a lot. 32 bit never used 2 gigs. right now ive got one chrome window open with six tabs and im using over a gig
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11-09-2012, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OBLAMA2009
just using the system monitor. i guess memory usage goes up and down a lot. 32 bit never used 2 gigs. right now ive got one chrome window open with six tabs and im using over a gig
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Yea, you can't just go by that. That will likely included the disk cache and everything so it'll vary heavily based upon usage and such. 64-bit binaries use more memory, but not double.
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