Go Back   AnandTech Forums > Hardware and Technology > SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs

Forums
· Hardware and Technology
· CPUs and Overclocking
· Motherboards
· Video Cards and Graphics
· Memory and Storage
· Power Supplies
· Cases & Cooling
· SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs
· Networking
· Peripherals
· General Hardware
· Highly Technical
· Computer Help
· Home Theater PCs
· Consumer Electronics
· Digital and Video Cameras
· Mobile Devices & Gadgets
· Audio/Video & Home Theater
· Software
· Software for Windows
· All Things Apple
· *nix Software
· Operating Systems
· Programming
· PC Gaming
· Console Gaming
· Distributed Computing
· Security
· Social
· Off Topic
· Politics and News
· Discussion Club
· Love and Relationships
· The Garage
· Health and Fitness
· Merchandise and Shopping
· For Sale/Trade
· Hot Deals with Free Stuff/Contests
· Black Friday 2013
· Forum Issues
· Technical Forum Issues
· Personal Forum Issues
· Suggestion Box
· Moderator Resources
· Moderator Discussions
   

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-03-2012, 05:13 PM   #1
Bonesdad
Platinum Member
 
Bonesdad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 2,208
Default Almost ready to pull trigger on T430

Lenovo/BN is having a decent sale on T series now...20% off so I can get this config:

Description
ThinkPad T430 - 1 Year Depot Topseller Warranty
Processor: Intel Core i5-3320M Processor (3M Cache, up to 3.30 GHz)
Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
Display type: 14.0" HD+ (1600 x 900) LED Backlit AntiGlare Display
System graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4000
Total memory: 4 GB DDR3 - 1600MHz (1 DIMM)
Keyboard: Keyboard Backlit - US English Edit
Pointing device: UltraNav with Fingerprint Reader
Camera: 720p HD Camera with Microphone
Hard drive: 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
Ultrabay: DVD Recordable
System expansion slots: Express Card Slot & 4-in-1 Card Reader
Battery: 6 Cell Li-Ion TWL 70+
Power cord: 90W AC Adapter - US (2pin)
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0 with Antenna
Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN
Integrated mobile broadband: Mobile Broadband upgradable


for $750 + tax shipped. I can upgrade the System Graphics to an Nvidia NVS 5400m w/ 1GB for another $50. Seems like a good deal, though I don't think I'll be gaming heavy on this box. If so, would the addition of it just be a further drain on battery? I can get a 9 cell battery too (for yet another $50).

Or would I be better off putting my $50 toward replacing the RAM (upgrading to 8 GB)?

Your thoughts, as always, are appreciated.
__________________
I only SEEM conceited, but it's just because I'm better than you, and you know it...

heat = 3-0-0 Ebay = 71-0-0

Last edited by Bonesdad; 11-03-2012 at 05:14 PM. Reason: punc edit
Bonesdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 05:39 PM   #2
Fayd
Diamond Member
 
Fayd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Around
Posts: 7,581
Default

the t430 uses "optimus" which is nvidia's version of hybrid power. It uses the integrated GPU (the HD 4000) for generic stuff, and switches to the 5400 for more power required stuff.

so if all you're doing is desktop and browsing the web, the battery life should be roughly similar.

i'm in somewhat a similar boat. i'm trying to figure out if i want the x230, or the t430. so my concerns come down to the question: do i want the smaller laptop with the better quality screen, or do i want the bigger laptop with the bigger screen and the better graphics card?
__________________
Hold me closer Tony Danza
Count the Headlights on the Highway
Lay me down in sheets of linen
You've had a busy day today.
Fayd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 05:46 PM   #3
Bonesdad
Platinum Member
 
Bonesdad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 2,208
Default

hmm, for $50 bucks, it seems like it might be worth it. Lenovo charges $250 (!!!) for this upgrade typically.
__________________
I only SEEM conceited, but it's just because I'm better than you, and you know it...

heat = 3-0-0 Ebay = 71-0-0
Bonesdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 06:13 PM   #4
pelov
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,512
Default

Will you be gaming? If not skip the GPU

You can add RAM yourself. The battery would be my choice
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Childs View Post
hahahahaha "Is this 911? John Travolta just stroked my shaft, call the president!"
pelov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 08:55 PM   #5
jihe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 394
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fayd View Post
the t430 uses "optimus" which is nvidia's version of hybrid power. It uses the integrated GPU (the HD 4000) for generic stuff, and switches to the 5400 for more power required stuff.

so if all you're doing is desktop and browsing the web, the battery life should be roughly similar.

i'm in somewhat a similar boat. i'm trying to figure out if i want the x230, or the t430. so my concerns come down to the question: do i want the smaller laptop with the better quality screen, or do i want the bigger laptop with the bigger screen and the better graphics card?
Get the x, 5400 isn't that much better than the 4000 anyway, you will however appreciate the convenience of the smaller lighter laptop.
jihe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 09:09 PM   #6
Bonesdad
Platinum Member
 
Bonesdad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 2,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pelov View Post
Will you be gaming? If not skip the GPU

You can add RAM yourself. The battery would be my choice
yeah, I intend to upgrade the memory on my own anyway, as well as tuck a SSD in there too at some point. Just curious now about the 5400. Are there any comparisons between the HD4000 and the 5400? I'd be curious to see some benches.
__________________
I only SEEM conceited, but it's just because I'm better than you, and you know it...

heat = 3-0-0 Ebay = 71-0-0
Bonesdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 09:51 PM   #7
kevinsbane
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 665
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fayd View Post
the t430 uses "optimus" which is nvidia's version of hybrid power. It uses the integrated GPU (the HD 4000) for generic stuff, and switches to the 5400 for more power required stuff.

so if all you're doing is desktop and browsing the web, the battery life should be roughly similar.

i'm in somewhat a similar boat. i'm trying to figure out if i want the x230, or the t430. so my concerns come down to the question: do i want the smaller laptop with the better quality screen, or do i want the bigger laptop with the bigger screen and the better graphics card?
If you have a desktop... X230. The portability factor is big. As long as you have a desktop, gaming is not IMO.
kevinsbane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 03:33 AM   #8
Fayd
Diamond Member
 
Fayd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Around
Posts: 7,581
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jihe View Post
Get the x, 5400 isn't that much better than the 4000 anyway, you will however appreciate the convenience of the smaller lighter laptop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinsbane View Post
If you have a desktop... X230. The portability factor is big. As long as you have a desktop, gaming is not IMO.
Sorry to the OP for semi-hijacking the thread.

I'm a grad student in statistics...living at home, so I have a desktop.

I have a laptop that I take to class every day. it's an 11.6" Aspire One 722...so AMD C-50.

My complaints about it, in order of importance:
Crappy screen
slow as a dog in general use.
crappy build quality/keyboard feel
low resolution display.

so the x230 absolutely kills on 3/4 of those complaints. but it has the same resolution display.

now here's the thing. i do a lot of writing code in IDE's like SAS and Rstudio. the menus in those are somewhat unwieldy in 1366x768... but not to the point of being unusable.

as far as gaming goes, max i'd really bother with would be something like heroes of newerth if i have an hour to kill or something. maybe source engine games. i'm not really bothering with PC games anymore.
__________________
Hold me closer Tony Danza
Count the Headlights on the Highway
Lay me down in sheets of linen
You've had a busy day today.

Last edited by Fayd; 11-04-2012 at 03:36 AM.
Fayd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 08:42 AM   #9
pelov
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,512
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonesdad View Post
yeah, I intend to upgrade the memory on my own anyway, as well as tuck a SSD in there too at some point. Just curious now about the 5400. Are there any comparisons between the HD4000 and the 5400? I'd be curious to see some benches.
The 5400 is a GT540m which performs slightly better than AMD's 7660G in the Trinity A10. The HD4000 is about 10-40% behind that. Obviously it's going to vary depending on the titles just like all gaming benchmarks.

If you're after light gaming then the HD4000 should do fine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fayd View Post
so the x230 absolutely kills on 3/4 of those complaints. but it has the same resolution display.
At 12.5", I've found my X220 to be perfect at 1366x768. Any higher and I'd be squinting. The added screen real estate would be fine, but if you're scaling the text then you wouldn't be benefiting anyway.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Childs View Post
hahahahaha "Is this 911? John Travolta just stroked my shaft, call the president!"

Last edited by pelov; 11-04-2012 at 08:45 AM.
pelov is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.