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Old 11-02-2012, 01:52 PM   #1
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Default Are there any IB Celeron/Pentium dual-core chips yet?

Just curious. I thought that Intel had some excess 22nm capacity stockpiled. But still haven't seen IB Celerons yet.

Figured one of those would make a very cool and low-power HTPC. Plus, didn't they (almost?) fix the 29.97Hz bug?
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:56 PM   #2
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There are supposedly 2 Ivy Bridge Pentiums - the G2120 and G2100T, but I'm not sure where you can buy them. AFAIK there is no IB Celeron.

Perhaps Intel is having great yields on 22nm, or maybe they're holding out to get rid of all of their older 32nm parts?
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:21 PM   #3
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The G2120.
http://geizhals.at/832988
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:25 PM   #4
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Yes, but unfortunately, it's $95. Not $50, which is the price range I was looking for. (SB Celeron dual-cores are in that range.)

But I wanted a 22nm for power reduction.

Edit: I guess I feel that if I'm going to pay nearly $100 for a CPU, which, in prior generations of CPUs, would get me a quad-core, than I had better at least get a decent dual-core with HyperThreading. Intel doesn't offer either in IB at that price point, so no Intel for me.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:02 PM   #5
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There are supposedly 2 Ivy Bridge Pentiums - the G2120 and G2100T, but I'm not sure where you can buy them. AFAIK there is no IB Celeron.
The Pentium G2120 is relatively easy to find online. As for the Celeron, the rumour mill says Intel will launch the G1620, G1610 and G1610T in Q1 2013.

Specwise the G1620 should be clocked at 2.7GHz and the G1610 at 2.6GHz. The low-power G1610 should be clocked at 2.3GHz. All have 2MB L2 and a DDR3-1333 limit...
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Edit: I guess I feel that if I'm going to pay nearly $100 for a CPU, which, in prior generations of CPUs, would get me a quad-core, than I had better at least get a decent dual-core with HyperThreading. Intel doesn't offer either in IB at that price point, so no Intel for me.
Seriously? When has Intel EVER sold a quad-core for $100? Even the totally crappy neutered Q8x00 series were closer to $200 when launched.
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Seriously? When has Intel EVER sold a quad-core for $100? Even the totally crappy neutered Q8x00 series were closer to $200 when launched.
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Seriously? When has Intel EVER sold a quad-core for $100? Even the totally crappy neutered Q8x00 series were closer to $200 when launched.
4+ years ago....
I remember the q6600 for a long time costing the same as their e8xxx dual cores,

but unfortunately Intel have been quite conservative with their prices lately...
cheapest quad core at $190 is quite bad...

also the g2120 price is quite high...
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4+ years ago....
I remember the q6600 for a long time costing the same as their e8xxx dual cores,

but unfortunately Intel have been quite conservative with their prices lately...
cheapest quad core at $190 is quite bad...

also the g2120 price is quite high...
The price of a Q6600 was 100$ over 4 years ago?
The listprice was 189$ when it went EOL:
http://ark.intel.com/products/29765/...z-1066-MHz-FSB

G2120 is actually cheaper (and a good part faster) than the product it replaces.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:50 AM   #10
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Seriously? When has Intel EVER sold a quad-core for $100? Even the totally crappy neutered Q8x00 series were closer to $200 when launched.
Microcenter. I got my Q8200 and Q9300 CPUs there for $100.
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4+ years ago....
I remember the q6600 for a long time costing the same as their e8xxx dual cores,
The E8xx's weren't $100.

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f you decide your friend doesn't need quite this much power you could trim back to an e8400 @ $165 and save $155 while still providing a really fast system.
There's your pricing on the Wolfdale.

This thread has the Canadian prices for the Intel lineup:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=204130

Q6600 at $190:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthre...ighlight=q6600


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Microcenter. I got my Q8200 and Q9300 CPUs there for $100.
Wasn't that not only after the launch of Lynnfield, but Sandy as well?
E: No, it looks to have been 5 months before Lynnfield. I see a Hot Deals thread on 4/09
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:18 PM   #12
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As for the Celeron, the rumour mill says Intel will launch the G1620, G1610 and G1610T in Q1 2013.
That's just before Haswell will be released. So the Celerons will effectively be one CPU generation behind?
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:24 PM   #13
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to put it in perspective, there were still new Sandy Bridge models released in Q3 '12
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:43 PM   #14
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I will say someone should not pay a premium just to save power on their chip.

Heck i experimented with my i5 2500,i found downclocking it to 2.2ghz dropped its wattage at load by half,using coretemp it showed a load of 30w while at 3.3ghz,it would run up to 61w if i recall.

I could not make my 2500 break 40cel at 2.2ghz at full load running intelburn on the stock cooler....
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The price of a Q6600 was 100$ over 4 years ago?
The listprice was 189$ when it went EOL:
http://ark.intel.com/products/29765/...z-1066-MHz-FSB

G2120 is actually cheaper (and a good part faster) than the product it replaces.
read my post again, I just said that their "midrange CPUs" be it quad core or dual core were costing the same at some point, so "quad core" shouldn't carry necessarily an extra price, and we are not in 2008 anymore.

the price was, 4+ years ago.
you could find easily for less than $200, less than $180 at times, while you had e8xxx around the same range, when the i5 650 was released (dual core) it was sold for over $200, while you could get a q8xxx or q6600 for under $170,
also these old quads when OCed can still beat current $140 CPUs when OCed (good luck with blck OC, thanks Intel for locking everything) in MT, that's pretty uninspiring...
Intel is just being extremely "conservative" with their pricing and strategy.. they are holding the sub $180 performance quite a bit,

the time they took to release ivy i3....
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Just curious. I thought that Intel had some excess 22nm capacity stockpiled. But still haven't seen IB Celerons yet.

Figured one of those would make a very cool and low-power HTPC. Plus, didn't they (almost?) fix the 29.97Hz bug?
Larry, get this instead. You won't regret it. Just shop around, Newegg's price is a bit steep.
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Yes, but unfortunately, it's $95.
FWIW Micro Center has it for $79.99.
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