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11-03-2012, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JEDIYoda
There is always some wack job who posts crap like an idiot....
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So what you are saying is you are bigoted against people with hot sisters/goats...
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11-03-2012, 01:09 PM
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#102
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
I currently have the right to form a "Royal Court of the United States"
The better question is what gives you the right to question the word of your King?  |
Why are you apparently unable to answer questions that make you uncomfortable?
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11-03-2012, 01:17 PM
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#103
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
Explain how civil unions are unequal? What rights is the state denying to people in a civil union?
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In places were civil unions exist, there's tons of organizations/employers that won't recognize them. That's why separate but equal hasn't worked, and will never work. Creating separate systems inherently makes them unequal. That people come in and think Jim Crow for gays will surely work this time is laughable.
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11-03-2012, 01:26 PM
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#104
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Originally Posted by AyashiKaibutsu
In places were civil unions exist, there's tons of organizations/employers that won't recognize them. That's why separate but equal hasn't worked, and will never work. Creating separate systems inherently makes them unequal. That people come in and think Jim Crow for gays will surely work this time is laughable.
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So your goal is to force your beliefs on marriage onto private organizations. I thought only conservatives did that?
EDIT: And if marriage is just a private contract why do you need to force private organizations to recognize it anyway?
Last edited by nehalem256; 11-03-2012 at 01:29 PM.
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11-03-2012, 01:27 PM
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#105
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Originally Posted by Cerpin Taxt
Why are you apparently unable to answer questions that make you uncomfortable?
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What is your question? Everyone currently does enjoy the right to form a "royal court". It is just no one has chosen to exercise that right.
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11-03-2012, 02:10 PM
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Lifer
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
If everyone was monogamous condoms would be pointless to prevent the spread of STDs right?
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Condoms also prevent pregnancy.
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11-03-2012, 04:01 PM
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#107
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Originally Posted by zsdersw
Condoms also prevent pregnancy.
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Which is obviously irrelevant for gay people right?
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11-03-2012, 11:25 PM
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#108
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
So your goal is to force your beliefs on marriage onto private organizations. I thought only conservatives did that?
EDIT: And if marriage is just a private contract why do you need to force private organizations to recognize it anyway?
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You're a twisted and disgusting individual to think ensuring equality is "forcing beliefs." It's you though so that's expected; there's no point talking rational things with you since you're simply not, and this is exemplary of it. Hint: See the 1960s to see how those sort of arguments worked out.
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11-04-2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AyashiKaibutsu
You're a twisted and disgusting individual to think ensuring equality is "forcing beliefs." It's you though so that's expected; there's no point talking rational things with you since you're simply not, and this is exemplary of it. Hint: See the 1960s to see how those sort of arguments worked out.
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Do you care to point out where gay couples are not allowed to eat?
Or not allowed to vote?
What you want to do is to force private individuals to recognize other people's "private" contract. Well pretending you do not want to force your beliefs on others.
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11-04-2012, 07:47 AM
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#110
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
Do you care to point out where gay couples are not allowed to eat?
Or not allowed to vote?
What you want to do is to force private individuals to recognize other people's "private" contract. Well pretending you do not want to force your beliefs on others.
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Oh, because we only limit some of their civil liberties that makes it ok? Your argument still doesn't work if you repeat it. Keep trying troll.
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11-04-2012, 08:04 AM
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Lifer
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
Which is obviously irrelevant for gay people right? |
No, it's not irrelevant.
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11-04-2012, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AyashiKaibutsu
Oh, because we only limit some of their civil liberties that makes it ok? Your argument still doesn't work if you repeat it. Keep trying troll.
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Forcing your definition of marriage onto other 3rd party organizations is not a matter of liberty.
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Originally Posted by zsdersw
No, it's not irrelevant.
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Ok, could you please explain why pregnancy prevention is relevant to homosexuals? 
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11-04-2012, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
Forcing your definition of marriage onto other 3rd party organizations is not a matter of liberty.
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Repeating yourself doesn't make it true. Again reference history to realize your mistake. Why didn't they make interracial marriages "civil unions" to make them palatable to those opposed?
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11-04-2012, 12:04 PM
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Lifer
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
Ok, could you please explain why pregnancy prevention is relevant to homosexuals? |
If you were half as bright as you claim to be you'd already know the answer to that question.
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11-04-2012, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AyashiKaibutsu
Repeating yourself doesn't make it true. Again reference history to realize your mistake. Why didn't they make interracial marriages "civil unions" to make them palatable to those opposed?
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And I believe asking for evidence that interracial marriages were considered to be counter to the definition of marriage, as opposed to merely wrong. None has been provided.
Why is it so hard for you to at least be honest an admit you want to change the definition of marriage and force everyone else to recognize it?
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11-04-2012, 01:04 PM
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#116
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I had no idea Anantech had such a large gay population.
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11-04-2012, 01:38 PM
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#117
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Originally Posted by Greenman
I had no idea Anantech had such a large gay population.
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Not everyone is a douchebag enough to want to restrict the rights of groups that aren't themselves.
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11-04-2012, 01:44 PM
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#118
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
And I believe asking for evidence that interracial marriages were considered to be counter to the definition of marriage, as opposed to merely wrong. None has been provided.
Why is it so hard for you to at least be honest an admit you want to change the definition of marriage and force everyone else to recognize it?
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What does it matter that current definitions as some hold them deny someone their rights? The problem is people's rights not being equal, and you're just showing your idiocy or intellectual dishonesty further trying to come up with such a roundabout argument to justify Jim Crow laws.
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11-04-2012, 02:33 PM
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#119
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Originally Posted by zsdersw
Condoms protect against pregnancy.
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ftfy.
Condoms are not fullproof. If you're going to have sex, you need to be responsible. Using condoms helps, but using Birth Control also helps to absolutely prevent an unwanted pregnancy.
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11-04-2012, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AyashiKaibutsu
What does it matter that current definitions as some hold them deny someone their rights? The problem is people's rights not being equal, and you're just showing your idiocy or intellectual dishonesty further trying to come up with such a roundabout argument to justify Jim Crow laws.
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Everyone has equal rights. Everyone is allowed to marry a single unrelated person of the opposite gender.
Some people want a new right to marry a single person of the same gender.
Some people want a new right to marry multiple people of the opposite gender.
Some people want a new right to marry their sibling.
Some people want a new right to marry their furniture.
Why does only one group deserve a new right? That seems rather unequal to me.
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11-04-2012, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
Everyone has equal rights. Everyone is allowed to marry a single unrelated person of the opposite gender.
Some people want a new right to marry a single person of the same gender.
Some people want a new right to marry multiple people of the opposite gender.
Some people want a new right to marry their sibling.
Some people want a new right to marry their furniture.
Why does only one group deserve a new right? That seems rather unequal to me.
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Are you suggesting that standards be set?
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11-04-2012, 03:10 PM
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#122
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Originally Posted by nehalem256
Why does only one group deserve a new right? That seems rather unequal to me.
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Your brain is defective. Its output really isn't relevant.
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11-04-2012, 03:19 PM
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Nehalem on ignore... wow, that is a nice improvement.
He is irredeemably useless.
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11-05-2012, 01:24 AM
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Lifer
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Originally Posted by SheHateMe
ftfy.
Condoms are not fullproof. If you're going to have sex, you need to be responsible. Using condoms helps, but using Birth Control also helps to absolutely prevent an unwanted pregnancy.
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Fullproof? Of course they're not foolproof... that's a given.
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If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand -Milton Friedman
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11-05-2012, 01:26 AM
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Lifer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nehalem256
Everyone has equal rights. Everyone is allowed to marry a single unrelated person of the opposite gender.
Some people want a new right to marry a single person of the same gender.
Some people want a new right to marry multiple people of the opposite gender.
Some people want a new right to marry their sibling.
Some people want a new right to marry their furniture.
Why does only one group deserve a new right? That seems rather unequal to me.
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Furniture is not a person with the ability to make decisions, nor is it recognized by our constitution as having any specific rights, inalienable or otherwise.
When you run down the slippery slope so stupidly it colors your entire argument a very bright shade of Idiotic.
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Last edited by zsdersw; 11-05-2012 at 01:31 AM.
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