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Old 11-03-2012, 01:55 PM   #51
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The stereotype that Chinese, or Asians in general I suppose, are short? lulz
Nah.

"Asians in general" are bad drivers. It's the Japanese that are short, because they eat nothing but raw fish and seaweed. Except that in any given group of Japanese folks, there will always be that one tall guy. (Unless they're a group of elderly Japanese folks, in which case they will all resemble Yoda.)

The Chinese, besides being bad drivers (because all Asians are bad drivers) are normal height and own either dry cleaning shops or buffets.

You're obviously not white, or you'd be racist enough to keep your stereotypes straight.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:06 PM   #52
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Can someone throw up a picture of a made FOR America F22?
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:10 PM   #53
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Okay, the Chinese one looks more like an F-15 on the underside, but the F22 looks like an F15, so... FML.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:38 PM   #54
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Silly Chinese, don't they know that if they get planes made in China that they'll have to go back to Walmart in about 3 years to buy a new one, after the old one falls apart?
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:43 PM   #55
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Nah.

"Asians in general" are bad drivers. It's the Japanese that are short, because they eat nothing but raw fish and seaweed. Except that in any given group of Japanese folks, there will always be that one tall guy. (Unless they're a group of elderly Japanese folks, in which case they will all resemble Yoda.)

The Chinese, besides being bad drivers (because all Asians are bad drivers) are normal height and own either dry cleaning shops or buffets.

You're obviously not white, or you'd be racist enough to keep your stereotypes straight.
How was Pearl Harbor bombed then?

Driving really has nothing to do with piloting.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:10 PM   #56
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How was Pearl Harbor bombed then?

Driving really has nothing to do with piloting.
*whoosh*
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:27 PM   #57
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And what a startling success the F22 is.
Yeah, only the best air superiority fighter in the world, WTF?!?!?!
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:55 PM   #58
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Combat won't be a problem. The Chinese can't see over the controls.
Flight combat achilles heel:

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Yeah, only the best air superiority fighter in the world, WTF?!?!?!
Haha, ok.
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Flight combat achilles heel:

Is that why Asians suck at sports?
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It's just a first attempt. Their technology will keep improving.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:25 PM   #62
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So you get a fighter in the basic shape of a stealth. However, it has no stealth properties. Forward canards are huge radar signatures (J-20), so are exhaust nozzles. No thrust vectoring or supercruise and the engines are a disaster. It probably doesn't have stealth coating, its radar is probably very sub-par.

So really, all this is is a very unrealiable fighter that was made to look stealth but has no properties of a modern fighter. lol.
Yup.

The F22(issues are resolved) and F35 would make a light snack of it.


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And an F35



Wish I could find a pic of the raptor at that angle, it makes the F35 look dead sexy.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:30 PM   #63
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Nice thing about the Chinese copying our stuff is we'd already know its weaknesses and how to successfully engage it, rather than being surprised when we encounter it in combat.
Or maybe they're counting on opposing forces thinking that it's the same...
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:26 PM   #64
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Smoke and mirrors. They won't need stealth fighters once they've helped make all of 'merica fat.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:29 PM   #65
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I wonder if it has a "Designed by Lockheed in California" sticker on it.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:19 PM   #66
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We should sue them for patent infringement. Looks just like the iPhone 5...um wait.
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Smoke and mirrors. They won't need stealth fighters once they've helped make all of 'merica fat.
Things are changing in China. They're importing a lot more meat from America, and a lot of their land is toxic due to poor industrial regulation. Not a good combination. If one then adds to that a hypothetical (I have no idea what the reality is in this case) leadership that doesn't care about its people primarily (like most leadership unfortunately), and a greater portion of society becoming wealthier (as well as a greater portion of society dying from toxic-related ailments), that either spells revolution or democracy getting a better grip (or both), in time.

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Old 11-04-2012, 03:45 AM   #68
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Look at the Russian PAK-FA, which is the Russian equivalent for this Chinese 5th generation, and compare it against the F22. F22: $70 billion R&D, $150 million per unit; PAK FA: $20 billion R&D, $70 million per unit. To say nothing about the failures of the F22 program, you're comparing a BMW to a Toyota.
Different levels of stealth on each plane. This Chinese plane and the PAK-FA are semi-stealth only which reduces the likelihood of a lesser plane sticking an air-to-air missile up their pipes as well as give them more of a time advantage when trying to sneak up onto a ground target. All very handy things for their intended purpose and budget, but they aren't producing an F-22 level aircraft on those costs.

Different planes, different purposes.
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Thought this was a cool pic.

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Different levels of stealth on each plane. This Chinese plane and the PAK-FA are semi-stealth only which reduces the likelihood of a lesser plane sticking an air-to-air missile up their pipes as well as give them more of a time advantage when trying to sneak up onto a ground target. All very handy things for their intended purpose and budget, but they aren't producing an F-22 level aircraft on those costs.

Different planes, different purposes.
Thanks for making my point buddy. Why are people on this thread comparing it to an F-22?
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thank you China for not invading us yet and stealing our land and resources.
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Haha, ok.
Pray tell what is so much better. Why do countries that actually need air superiority fighters want to buy it so badly?
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Must be that heavy upper single eyelid restricting their view of anything above the road compared to the white man?
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