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Old 07-20-2012, 11:41 AM   #1
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Default Yamasaki Catleap Q270 27in 2560x1440 IPS LED LCD Monitor

http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/306944

Has anyone had experience with this brand?

On one hand its almost "too good to be true", on another a very tempting offer.
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:44 PM   #2
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You can take a look at this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2241326
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:47 PM   #3
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Thank you!
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Old 07-20-2012, 05:51 PM   #4
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Or go here, for more extensive discussions:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/y...p-monitor-club
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Old 07-20-2012, 06:32 PM   #5
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I'm simply afraid of dead pixels and some sellers claim 5 is normal and some say up to 15 is normal and they won't replace it. I want zero honestly.
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:27 PM   #6
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I've gotten a few of the Korean panels. If you want a perfect one, good luck with that. I've been through 4 of them (no catleaps though), and only one seems to be "perfect" (no backlight bleed, good color uniformity, no dead pixels). However, I ended up keeping 3 of them because even the non-perfect ones were pretty good (one has a dead pixel, and the other has significant backlight bleed). The other one had terrible color uniformity, which somehow bothers me a lot more than the other things, so I sold it on craigslist. Definitely would buy again...
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:52 PM   #7
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That's why I won't bother. I want perfect or no thanks. I'm picky like that I guess.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:14 AM   #8
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From what I hear you have about 10% chance to get absolute terribad.

30% to get a "perfect"

and 60% to get something like a few dead ones, some bleed (not extreme).

Which at 50% the price, is a gamble, but basically "guarantees" you a good monitor if you buy two. (obviously as with all gambling you can loose out)
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Keep in mind that even if you get a great screen, the build quality of these panels is craptastic IMHO.

I like nice fit and finish and nothing flimsy.
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:54 AM   #10
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microcenter has a version from Korea for $400. I'm sure you can test drive it for dead pixels. google around for reviews/experiences

http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0384780


http://slickdeals.net/f/4492270-Auri...M-Micro-Center
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:42 AM   #11
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Yea I thought about recommending the microcenter one, but I haven't been able to find a store with it in stock...

About the build quality, while they're definitely not as good as the other monitors I've had, after I replaced the default stand they became pretty acceptable. Of the ones I own, the shimian seems to have the best overall build quality, followed by the pcbank pb2700 super (the non super version has a TERRIBLE stand though -- it can't even hold its own weight!). Just my opinion though.
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My PCBank Super's stand is solid. I'm totally happy with my purchase. Best monitor I've owned.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:17 PM   #13
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Why do people care about backlight bleed? Stop staring at a black screen - problem solved. There are much more important things in the world to worry about.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:53 PM   #14
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The backlight bleed doesn't bother me most of time; the only scenario where I really notice it is during movies with dark scenes in them. Even in dark games I don't care because I am too busy shooting things. But bad color uniformity is something that really gets to me because I notice it all the time and it basically doesn't go away no matter what you're doing. Dead pixels aren't that bad if you're not OCD about these things, they are so small anyways and I think I have more "effectively dead" pixels due to not cleaning the screen as often as I should.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:39 PM   #15
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That's why I won't bother. I want perfect or no thanks. I'm picky like that I guess.
Unless you use a Dell 27", Apple Cinema, or a professional monitor, then a Catleap with minor defects will be much better than anything you can buy right now. Mine has minor backlight bleeding with a black screen, but it is so much better than anything I have purchased for under 700 dollars.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:56 PM   #16
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1) A 1440p 27" IPS display.
2) A name brand that has strict quality control will let you return a panel with dead pixels.
3) A low price.

Choose any two. If you want 1 and 3 get the Catleap. If you want 1 and 2 get the Apple or the Dell. If you want 2 and 3 then there are many high-res TN displays or 1080p IPS displays that are cheaper.
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:30 PM   #17
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Some vendors are offering these displays with zero dead pixel guarantee for $40 or so dollars more. Here's a couple:

Catleap:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-YAMAKASI...t_35791wt_1163

Shimian:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Free-Voltage...ht_7449wt_1163

May be worth the additional cost to some. The second link also offers the 120V AC adapter for the US folks.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:31 PM   #18
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You can do something about the backlight bleed.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1270861/p...nitor-club/130
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Well, resolution or refresh rate is the question then.
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Well, resolution or refresh rate is the question then.
Refresh rate can be safely assumed to be 60 Hz. The Catleap advertises as going up to 120 Hz, but doesn't seem to be stable.

As for resolution, I am not sure I understand. Its 2560x1440, as its the same set of panels.
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I mean you get a 2560x1440 60hz Display or a 1920x1080 120hz display.

Which direction to go?

How good are these catleaps for gaming really?
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Better than any 1920x108, unless you're playing Professionally (and even then FPSes)
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Can't find any info on ghosting and input lag
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you will have better luck asking about ghosting and lag here http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2241326 and here http://www.overclock.net/t/1215866/r...eap-q270/0_100

i have 2 of the shimians, they have basically 0 input lag because they dont have an inputs besides the DLDVI, the ADboard for multy imputs is what generally causes lag to go up. all the korean ones with just the DL-DVI input should be virtually the same for extreamly low input lag.

ive gamed a bit on mine and dont see an ghosting however i havent played a MP FPS on it yet but i havent seen any issues with D3, Max Payne 3, SC2 or WoW
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Some vendors are offering these displays with zero dead pixel guarantee for $40 or so dollars more. Here's a couple:

Catleap:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-YAMAKASI...t_35791wt_1163

Shimian:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Free-Voltage...ht_7449wt_1163

May be worth the additional cost to some. The second link also offers the 120V AC adapter for the US folks.

Zero Dead Pixel Guarantee or Pixel Perfect is a gimmick... some people pay extra for it and still got dead pixels - with the sellers refunding $10 per dead/bright pixel = at over 5 dead pixels its an RMA/Defective panel anyways.
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