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Old 06-07-2012, 10:57 AM   #1
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Default Is Canon behind on sensor tech?

So, it seems the D3200 sensor has the same overall IQ score as the 5D MKIII sensor. I know there are a ton of other considerations, but it does seem Canon is really behind on sensor technology.

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cam...(brand2)/Canon

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Old 06-07-2012, 01:15 PM   #2
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There is one area where the Canon 5D MK III and MKII really smoke the D3200 - that is Low Light Sports (ISO.)

D3200= 1131 5DMKII= 1815 5DMKIII= 2293

I don't see that as "behind."
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:16 PM   #3
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There is one area where the Canon 5D MK III and MKII really smoke the D3200 - that is Low Light Sports (ISO.)

D3200= 1131 5DMKII= 1815 5DMKIII= 2293

I don't see that as "behind."
...and "smoke" is a good term on low ISO performace. But, should there really be any real comparison between the sensors from an entry level camera with a pro camera costing 5 times as much?

I wonder if the low-iso difference has to do more with sensor size and pixel density than technology. Consider that the old sensor in the D700 beats the 5D MK III in Low Light Sports (ISO.) @ 2303 and is pretty much the same in the overall score (80 vs 81).

It seems the 5D MK III sensor should smoke the D3200 sensor across the board, rather than having enough less Dynamic Range to level the scores.

It just seems Sony has really gotten ahead of Canon in this area.

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Old 06-07-2012, 03:55 PM   #4
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...and "smoke" is a good term on low ISO performace. But, should there really be any real comparison between the sensors from an entry level camera with a pro camera costing 5 times as much?

I wonder if the low-iso difference has to do more with sensor size and pixel density than technology. Consider that the old sensor in the D700 beats the 5D MK III in Low Light Sports (ISO.) @ 2303 and is pretty much the same in the overall score (80 vs 81).

It seems the 5D MK III sensor should smoke the D3200 sensor across the board, rather than having enough less Dynamic Range to level the scores.

It just seems Sony has really gotten ahead of Canon in this area.

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No one manufacturer is busy "smoking" anyone else right now. They are all at a remarkable level of parity. Nikon chooses to put better sensors in lower end cameras sometimes. When the D40 was released, it had a comparably crappy sensor. But when the D90 was released, it was pretty killer, even against the higher end (D300, D2X, etc). The D5100 has the same sensor as the D7000, the D800 seems to be the leader in every category, despite being much cheaper than the D4, etc, etc.

Just because it is in a cheaper model doesn't mean they put a cheap sensor in it. The whole discussion is, frankly, annoying. Every 6 months someone on the internet claims "Nikon is blowing Canon away!" and then 6 months later, someone says "Canon is blowing Nikon away!" It's been going on since Nikon swept up the DSLR market up with the D1 in 2000 and D1H in 2002.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:11 PM   #6
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No one manufacturer is busy "smoking" anyone else right now. They are all at a remarkable level of parity. Nikon chooses to put better sensors in lower end cameras sometimes. When the D40 was released, it had a comparably crappy sensor. But when the D90 was released, it was pretty killer, even against the higher end (D300, D2X, etc). The D5100 has the same sensor as the D7000, the D800 seems to be the leader in every category, despite being much cheaper than the D4, etc, etc.

Just because it is in a cheaper model doesn't mean they put a cheap sensor in it. The whole discussion is, frankly, annoying. Every 6 months someone on the internet claims "Nikon is blowing Canon away!" and then 6 months later, someone says "Canon is blowing Nikon away!" It's been going on since Nikon swept up the DSLR market up with the D1 in 2000 and D1H in 2002.
Actually, I was saying "Sony sensors are blowing Canon sensors away"...

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Sony is obviously the best
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Actually, I was saying "Sony sensors are blowing Canon sensors away"...

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Every 6 months someone on the internet claims "Nikon is blowing Canon away!" and then 6 months later, someone says "Canon is blowing Nikon away!"
Ok, well at least it's a different name this time. It's still a stupid discussion.
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Based on the sample images I've seen, I'd say Nikon does have the edge over Canon in terms of high ISO performance. I don't care much for what dxomark says, but the images speak for themselves.
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