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Old 11-06-2009, 12:15 PM   #276
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Alan Keyes gives a pretty good arguement as to why gay marriage shouldn't be legal. Children of same sex marriage born through unnatural means, they will likely not know who their father/mother's are, giving rise to incest in the worst case scenario. I don't advocate this but it is something good to think about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFchW...eature=related
Posts like this are why you are so NOT going on my ignore list.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:15 PM   #277
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Alan Keyes gives a pretty good arguement as to why gay marriage shouldn't be legal. Children of same sex marriage born through unnatural means, they will likely not know who their father/mother's are, giving rise to incest in the worst case scenario. I don't advocate this but it is something good to think about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFchW...eature=related
Does Keyes have documented data to back up this claim? And what is the increase in the incidence of incests involving the children of same-sex couples? Is the risk doubled? Tripled? Come one, surely Alan Keyes has the data.

You DO realize that whether a couple is married or not, they can legally have children. So barring same-sex marriage will have no effect on the number of children born to them if they're not allowed to marry. So I guess what you're really advocating is that we outlaw same-gender sex, right? For the good of society. You're SUCH a public-minded person.

Finally, since Alan Keye's is so disciplined intellectually, and so concerned about incest, I assume he's also advocating that sperm banks be outlawed, because the resulting children absolutely cannot know who the father is. You agree, of course.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:43 PM   #278
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when i bring up motherless/fatherless i'm talking in the sense of a bastard/illegitimate child that don't know who one of their parent is. Damn, do you pro same sex marriage activists need everything spelled out for you?
Only when ignorant people make stupid statements.
Children raised with two parents are better off then children raised with just one, no matter the gender.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:17 PM   #279
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when i bring up motherless/fatherless i'm talking in the sense of a bastard/illegitimate child that don't know who one of their parent is. Damn, do you pro same sex marriage activists need everything spelled out for you?
A "bastard" child is a child with no father. By definition a homosexual male couple would mean that child had two fathers. Guess you're more of a bastard child since you only had one father, and a child raised by a homosexual male couple would have two fathers. The child also wouldn't be illegitimate if gays could marry, since then they wouldn't have a child out of wedlock nor would it be against the law since the homosexual couple could legally get married.

Okay, so they wouldn't know who one of their biological parents is. What's your point? Many adopted children don't know who either of their biological parents are. These adopted children see their adopted parents as their mother and father, because they were raised by them. The child would be raised by two parenting figures, which is generally considered to be much better for the child than being raised by one parent believe it or not.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:55 PM   #280
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when i bring up motherless/fatherless i'm talking in the sense of a bastard/illegitimate child that don't know who one of their parent is. Damn, do you pro same sex marriage activists need everything spelled out for you?
So, Gay couples adopting a child whose mother did the wise thing when she didn't want it or couldn't take care of it and now the Gay parents are at fault over this childs natural parents when they step in to give the child a loving home?
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:31 PM   #281
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Alan Keyes gives a pretty good arguement as to why gay marriage shouldn't be legal. Children of same sex marriage born through unnatural means, they will likely not know who their father/mother's are, giving rise to incest in the worst case scenario. I don't advocate this but it is something good to think about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFchW...eature=related
The only argument he gave was for why he's a fucking moron. By his logic adoption should be banned outright for ALL couples; not just homosexual couples.
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