Intel Golftown CPU to have 6 cores, 3GHz, cost $1999!

[Idontcare]

What you say is true, of course, but I was looking at it from a glass is half-full viewpoint...assuming that at worst the cooling on gulftown is no worse than the cooling on bloomfield but that there were some cores for which the cooling (thermal conductivity of the die and IHS) has been improved upon.

So if bloomfield cores at full-load were say 45C/44C/45C/46C and Gulftown cores at full-load were say 45C/40C/42C/46C/39C/38C then sure the spread in temps has widened but the hottest core is no hotter.

At any rate there is a very simple rule of thumb to use here, if thermal conductivity is not significantly changing then temperature will scale with power-consumption divided by die-area. (temperature is thermal-density dependent)

Meaning a 130W 263mm^2 bloomfield would be expected to run slightly cooler in temps compared to a 130W 220mm^2 gulftown for no other reason than the physics at the heart of canonical ensembles and phonons.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by Idontcare

So if bloomfield cores at full-load were say 45C/44C/45C/46C and Gulftown cores at full-load were say 45C/40C/42C/46C/39C/38C then sure the spread in temps has widened but the hottest core is no hotter.

im having problems with 1, 4, 5.

It could be that the loaner i was playing with was an ES.

But heres what i mean.

I am gonna need to do more remounts.
But with my red tape.. i dont have motivation, because i cant really report anything, but to my sponsor.





I just hope i dont have to give back the cpu until after the red tape is lifted. :T
And guys thats not her limit.

She has about 700mhz of room left b4 i start pushing it near sucidial. Note: near and not at.
This setting was used for a long term bench program my sponsor asked me to run on my setup.
(i cant show u my unlocked multi )

Gulftown is an absolute monster. Once NDA expires, i'll show u guys what i mean.

[nyker96]

it looks incredible with 12xprime 95s. are type of cooling are you using on it? I guess it's probably water.

[DarkRogue]

I love the completely random Kagami head out of nowhere in the middle of a tech discussion.

Where to get?

Somewhat on topic: These new CPUs seems to be quite the monsters.. I originally planned to upgrade my Penryn past Nehalem straight into a Westmere, although Sandy Bridge looks quite nice... Unfortunately, I don't think I'd have the cash nor anything to take advantage of all those cores, lol.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by DarkRogue

I love the completely random Kagami head out of nowhere in the middle of a tech discussion.

Where to get?

Thats my load meter.. i have one of miku also.



The blue bar underneith is the load meter on these guys.
Its called a vista face under window gadget.
However u need to find the faces or make them yourself.

Another edited Teasers..


This is the last one until the NDA expires.
So sorry guys...

If you guys look really hard you can guess the clock im at.

Originally Posted by DarkRogue

Somewhat on topic: These new CPUs seems to be quite the monsters.. I originally planned to upgrade my Penryn past Nehalem straight into a Westmere, although Sandy Bridge looks quite nice... Unfortunately, I don't think I'd have the cash nor anything to take advantage of all those cores, lol.

intel 32nm will make you forget about the other company who starts with an A.
And no i dont mean apple, because they use intel cpu's.

Originally Posted by nyker96

it looks incredible with 12xprime 95s. are type of cooling are you using on it? I guess it's probably water.

Ive thrown them on both air and water.
Whats funny is these chips really scale very well with voltage, like how the yorkfields did.
What worries me, is because they scale so well, im very tempted to push her to bleeding edges.

However i know in 5 months something will go POP, and i'll be very sad.

[ilkhan]

Originally Posted by aigomorla

Thats my load meter.. i have one of miku also.
[IG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Personal/ohnoes-1.jpg[/IMG]

[IG]http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Personal/Temp/HWinfo64-1.jpg[/IMG]

This is the last one until the NDA expires.
So sorry guys...
If you guys look really hard you can guess the clock im at.

intel 32nm will make you forget about the other company who starts with an A.
And no i dont mean apple, because they use intel cpu's.

4380Mhz? 182.5x24.

/me wants 32nm.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by ilkhan

4380Mhz? 182.5x24.

/me wants 32nm.

LOL i wish i could really call this mine too.

But its a loaner.

If it wasnt.. lol id say whats NDA?
And spam the post boards like i did with the W3580.

[Bassman2003]

aigomorla,

I do pro video work and I am looking at an X58 upgrade sometime in the future.

If I get an I7-920, is it going to be worth it to take a loss on the 920 and getting the Gulftown when it comes out?

Or just wait for the Gulftown?

Waiting and not knowing the price of the Gulftown seems like a bad idea as it might be 6 months until the processor is released.

Is the performance of the Gulftown really going to put the 920 stock or overclocked to shame?

Any thoughts?

Thanks

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by Bassman2003

aigomorla,

I do pro video work and I am looking at an X58 upgrade sometime in the future.

If I get an I7-920, is it going to be worth it to take a loss on the 920 and getting the Gulftown when it comes out?

Or just wait for the Gulftown?

Waiting and not knowing the price of the Gulftown seems like a bad idea as it might be 6 months until the processor is released.

Is the performance of the Gulftown really going to put the 920 stock or overclocked to shame?

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Without showing u guys any screenies, i'll get with it.

The gulftown @ my clock on CB10 scored 33k @ 4.385ghz

I dont think those are anywhere near suicidal clocks either.
The vcore was low at around 1.4, the temps are there as reported.

Sorry for the lack of screenies...
But take my word for it on those results.

Screenies will follow as soon as NDA expires.


If your doing pro video work, i heard for image display / sampling, the video card is more important then cpu.

If your gonna do a ton of actual encoding / editing / all the other bells and whistles, the system with the highest CB10 score should be what you aim for.

So your question is very hard to answer.
Would u get a 920 and grab 4 Telsa's to render?
Or would u grab a gulftown and grab 2 Telsa's instead to render?

Or do you have that insane budget which i cant even touch,
and grab 2 gulftowns -EP's + 4 telsa's on a 5500X dual socket platform.


If you have that last budget, you better post a work log in cases and cooling, or ima gonna initate a vote to ban you!
j/k...

Meaning i would really love to see an enterprise rig setup like that.
I love enterprise more then consumer parts. :T

[Idontcare]

Originally Posted by aigomorla

I love enterprise more then consumer parts. :T

So too do the businesses that sell into them...margins are much better.

[Bassman2003]

Thanks for your reply.

I would only have one machine to do the editing and rendering on.

I have only heard of Tesla and don't even know what socket it uses.

Nothing too crazy, just a price/value/speed decision.

$200 (Micro Center) for a 920 vs $1,000-$1500 for a Gulftown?

How much faster is Gulftown than the 920? - $1,000 faster?

Thanks

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by Bassman2003

Thanks for your reply.

I would only have one machine to do the editing and rendering on.

I have only heard of Tesla and don't even know what socket it uses.

Nothing too crazy, just a price/value/speed decision.

$200 (Micro Center) for a 920 vs $1,000-$1500 for a Gulftown?

How much faster is Gulftown than the 920? - $1,000 faster?

Thanks

your better off splitting that budget on OpenGL video cards to help you sample better.

So in your case, if budget is a concern, id grab a 920, overclock it, and grab 2 high end open GL cards in SLI or Xfire.
And with whats left over, id grab a SSD, to increase your bandwith.

That way u have near the top of both words.

Telsa is basically a Quattro video card which has no display ports.
Its meant for pure rendering.

You dont need to go on a telsa, if they ever come out, you would do fine on any high end OpenGL card.

[Bassman2003]

Hey, thanks for the heads up.

I have been reading a bit about the Tesla configuration.

Do these cards only take up tasks that you tell them to or do they help your CPU with everything?

Most video editing is not GPU intensive. Most of the work is with the CPU decoding for playback (sometimes multiple streams with effects) and encoding upon output.

So tesla would only be a help if it augmented the CPU power all of the time, or at least when you are encoding.

Now my curiosity is peaked!