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Old 10-27-2009, 02:23 PM   #1
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Default Why do people crack software and put it on the internet for free?

I imagine that some is done for resale or trojans, but a lot seems to be free. Why would people go to all the work/danger to crack software and put it on the net? Sorry, I'm assuming its a lot of work, don't know much on that topic.
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:47 PM   #2
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they enjoy it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:07 PM   #3
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Because they can.
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Old 10-28-2009, 08:20 AM   #4
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Because they can.
Also, it becomes a badge of honor to do it first. It's for the glory.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:47 PM   #5
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Default Why do people crack software and put it on the internet for free?

It is a challenge, some people like challenges.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:11 PM   #6
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It's an interesting challenge. I remember slowly learning how to do this just out of curiosity to learn something new. Those groups/individuals have tutorials out there on their own sample software to try your own hand at it legally.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:37 PM   #7
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for the "scene" and they hate torrents.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:06 PM   #8
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Because its naughty. And naughty is appealing during adolescence. They should grow out of it by 17 or 18 at most. Those who don't grow out of it end-up gravitating to ideologies or viewpoints that allow them to feel justified in their bad conduct (e.g. the kinds of mentalities that are all the rage among our population of repeat jail and prison inmates).
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:00 PM   #9
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Well speaking purely from a user standpoint, its nice to sometimes get my hands on software that otherwise would be unobtainable for me due to the price. I understanding having a PC is a luxury and that most good software comes at a cost, it would be nice if occasionally the software I "needed" wasn't priced so damn high I could afford to pay for it.

But I also concur with the other posters about it being a challenge for some and just another rule to break for others.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:50 AM   #10
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Where else to show your knowledge of reverse engineering commercial code.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:35 AM   #11
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Because its naughty. And naughty is appealing during adolescence. They should grow out of it by 17 or 18 at most. Those who don't grow out of it end-up gravitating to ideologies or viewpoints that allow them to feel justified in their bad conduct (e.g. the kinds of mentalities that are all the rage among our population of repeat jail and prison inmates).
not even close. Sure, young bucks get into the scene of cracking stuff. But it is the older generation that we have to thank for the majority of the cracks out there.

I would say it has to do with the challenge, and the prestige of doing the "impossible". If you want your software cracked fast, say that it is impossible to crack.

Sure, some do it to distribute viruses ect. But most do it because they can, and shouldn't. There are some that give some sort of ideology along with it, but that is generally bull, it is all about prestige in their circles.
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:44 PM   #12
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Well speaking purely from a user standpoint, its nice to sometimes get my hands on software that otherwise would be unobtainable for me due to the price. I understanding having a PC is a luxury and that most good software comes at a cost, it would be nice if occasionally the software I "needed" wasn't priced so damn high I could afford to pay for it.

But I also concur with the other posters about it being a challenge for some and just another rule to break for others.
What software do you need that you can't afford?
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:52 PM   #13
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Sure, some do it to distribute viruses ect. But most do it because they can, and shouldn't. There are some that give some sort of ideology along with it, but that is generally bull, it is all about prestige in their circles.
It is interesting that you begin your post by refuting my statement as "not even close", then proceed to confirm every point I made.

Any "older bucks" who are still cracking in their 20s or 30s will be almost guaranteed to meet the description I set-forth, people who have adopted a lifestyle choice of bad conduct and antisocial behavior, often wrapping it in anarchist or altruistic ideology (i.e. I'm Robin Hood, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor or striking a blow against the capitalist pigs, so that makes it moral and just).

There is "prestige" within the realm of criminality and antisocial behavior. i.e. how many cars have you stolen. How many teeth have you knocked out. Show us your 'leet' shoplifting or con-artist skillz. etc.

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Old 11-03-2009, 03:53 PM   #14
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Mostly for fun, or to be useful to other people. Most commerical software is not really affordable to general public.

I remember cracking a 30 day trial and I was all proud that I managed to make a crack so I ended up releasing it. Fun times.

Now I just try to find open source alternatives to expensive software, and do what I can to support that movement.
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Speaking of which, I received a DMCA notice from activity occurring on or around the 10th of October. My first!
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Speaking of which, I received a DMCA notice from activity occurring on or around the 10th of October. My first!
Ouch, that sucks... GL with that.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:25 PM   #17
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Same reason that people use P2P for music sharing.

Plus, as you first stated, a lot of those cracked apps do have a trojan embedded in them.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:08 PM   #18
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Some do it as their contribution to correcting the "social injustices" in the world, because in their minds the software companies are making too much profit.

Some do it because they believe that the world will be a better place if something that can be replicated and distributed without cost to the company, should be offered up for free to everyone.

China cracks software because the business culture of China really is to lie, cheat, and steal, or else cease to be competitive.

Then many do it for profits themselves. File sharing is money. Crack the software, or redistribute the software, and make a few bucks on ad sales on the website. It's piddly money to us here, but even an mere $10/week extra to someone in a poverty-stricken nation is huge.

Most people who crack software live in poor nations, not in the U.S.

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They get to play Santa and be a terrorist without committing suicide. Plus when they play that game they have more power with their computers, and that's their trip. To a lot of people the kind of lifestyle that is full and legally sanctioned doesn't seem very attainable.

I met a guy in cyberspace who taught C programming in a classroom setting. He also ran web servers for companies. He had access to a wide variety of cracks of very expensive software and the capability to distribute it at will and did so. He was proud of the fact that he could lay expensive software on me and without my reciprocation. All I was looking for was a way to get Windows 95 OSR2, the release that was only available to certain computer companies at the time. I couldn't even buy it (it was not for sale), but he had T1 and proudly sent it to me piece by piece for free and explained how I could assemble it all and install it. He had no interest in playing it straight.
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Because its naughty. And naughty is appealing during adolescence. They should grow out of it by 17 or 18 at most. Those who don't grow out of it end-up gravitating to ideologies or viewpoints that allow them to feel justified in their bad conduct (e.g. the kinds of mentalities that are all the rage among our population of repeat jail and prison inmates).

you lost me when you suggested that most people grow out of that stage and that it was limited to the jailed population.....
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you lost me when you suggested that most people grow out of that stage and that it was limited to the jailed population.....
I said the former, but not the latter.
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