Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Lindsay Graham credits Trump for the passage of the Ukranian aid package.


“President Trump has created a loan component to this package that gives us leverage down the road.”

Wut?! ... I have no fucking idea what he’s talking about.

What he might mean is “Trump is gonna give those pictures of my young rent boys to the New York Post if I don’t find a way to spin this so it looks like it was his idea all along”.

Or ... Trump’s criminal behavior and whining baby tantrums in social media have finally, finally gone too far, and convinced a large number of Republicans to cooperate with the Democrats to finally get shit done. So thanks to Trump for being such an absolute dick-wad, there is now work getting done in Congress.
I mean, if they're arranging deals between Trump and other countries under the assumption he's going to win, that's terrible and should probably also be illegal.
 

kage69

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Lady G Queen of ladybugs should get tested for syphilis; all that lapping away on Trump seems to have rotted his brain.

So sick of this cult and their TDS. With delusional traitors like him, who needs Russians?
 
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Miss Ukraine Immigrant-Indiana Ultra MAGAt either didn't read the bill, didn't understand the bill or is pro Silly Putty and wants Ukraine to fall.


"Instead she has called for better oversight of U.S. funds and opposed giving “blank checks” to the Ukrainian cause. "



Then again, she sorta looks like Silly Putty.
 

kage69

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Ukraine is saying it needs 100 Patriots to cover everything. EU and US reply "uhhhhhm...yeaaaah."

Well they've got another four batteries heading their way, at least. Also more IRIS-T from Germany, which are great. Turkey is talking about sending Ukraine Korkuts (think Turkish Gepard) which is good news too. Maintaining constant pressure on Russian units with superior drone numbers and tactics seems to be picking up a lot of slack thankfully.

Problem is Russian EW effectiveness has really spiked since last summer. Some of the more depressing news out of Ukraine lately has been about how GLSDB has been basically neutralized in most areas. What a shame, I had high hopes there. Earlier in the war the name Excalibur made Russians weep. They couldn't ignore it, was just killing too many people. Started off like 95% effective. Initial response from Russia knocked it down to 70%. With current jamming and spoofing efforts Russia has knocked it all the way down to 6%. Yuck.

Hopefully we're going to see a lot of EW units die along with AD sites after the recent/ongoing MALD peepin. Pretty much zero chance Ukraine does nothing before or on May 9th *rubs hands diabollically*
 

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Ukraine is saying it needs 100 Patriots to cover everything. EU and US reply "uhhhhhm...yeaaaah."

Well they've got another four batteries heading their way, at least. Also more IRIS-T from Germany, which are great. Turkey is talking about sending Ukraine Korkuts (think Turkish Gepard) which is good news too. Maintaining constant pressure on Russian units with superior drone numbers and tactics seems to be picking up a lot of slack thankfully.

Problem is Russian EW effectiveness has really spiked since last summer. Some of the more depressing news out of Ukraine lately has been about how GLSDB has been basically neutralized in most areas. What a shame, I had high hopes there. Earlier in the war the name Excalibur made Russians weep. They couldn't ignore it, was just killing too many people. Started off like 95% effective. Initial response from Russia knocked it down to 70%. With current jamming and spoofing efforts Russia has knocked it all the way down to 6%. Yuck.

Hopefully we're going to see a lot of EW units die along with AD sites after the recent/ongoing MALD peepin. Pretty much zero chance Ukraine does nothing before or on May 9th *rubs hands diabollically*

Their immediate needs are probably 7-10 batteries. Longer term a few dozen batteries is likely required, better if they are LTAMDS. Ukraine needs to replace/augment a huge amount of Soviet era systems (Buk, Osa, Strela, S-300) they are running out of missiles for. Adapting lots more of these to western missiles is an option too for the near term. IRIS-T and NASAMS are helpful but they need a lot more and the munitions for them. SLX and AMRAAM-ER also need to get into the field for those.

EW doesn't seem to be preventing strikes with JDAM-ER and AASM in the frontline area but deeper strikes are a genuine problem for GLSDB at this point. I'm sure there are a lot of people talking about GPS denial over here and how to counter it like M-Code GPS, more terrain mapping, and better INS being the major options. ATACMS does seems to be finding its targets just fine.
 

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Looks like the ipad is the secret sauce in integrating things like AGM-88 and JDAM to Ukrainian Flankers, pretty cool.

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Looks better than the car GPS units Russian were taping into their cockpits, more useful for sure.
Um, that is a consumer grade GPS unit to the right of the iPad. :p Nothing wrong with that. Accuracy on consumer GPS units is only slightly worse than surveyor grade units and signal acquisition time is better, certainly good enough for air combat use.
 
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Um, that is a consumer grade GPS unit to the right of the iPad. :p Nothing wrong with that. Accuracy on consumer GPS units is only slightly worse than surveyor grade units and signal acquisition time is better, certainly good enough for air combat use.

Yeah, the Russians use commercial units too in many of their aircraft.
 

kage69

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Heyooooo!

That's a nice little slap to Putin's face Kazakhstan. Astana not only didn't support Putin's invasion, they side with Ukraine.


"The US has acquired 81 obsolete Soviet-era combat aircraft from Kazakhstan, a report from the Kyiv Post says. Kazakhstan, which is upgrading its air fleet, auctioned off 117 Soviet-era fighter and bomber aircraft, including MiG-31 interceptors, MiG-27 fighter bombers, MiG-29 fighters, and Su-24 bombers from the 1970s and 1980s.

The Kyiv Post reported that the declared sale value was one billion Kazakhstani tenge, or $2.26 million, equaling an average value for each plane of $19,300."


Cheaper than a Kia. AFU will make them count.
 

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These are effectively parts donors for Ukraine's existing fleet. I highly doubt any of it is anywhere near flyable.

Still not as annoying for the Kremlin as say Serbia selling mortar rounds and rockets to Ukraine lol.
 
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Complementary GLSDB introduction


Gonna suck even more to be Russian in Ukraine the coming months.



U.S.-made Ground Launched Small Diameter Bombs (GLSDB) have not been effective against Russian forces in Ukraine, The War Zone reported on April 25.

Citing U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment Bill LaPlante, the report said that the Ukrainian military has discarded the sophisticated precision-guided weapons after they failed to penetrate Russian electronic warfare defenses on several occasions.

You were saying @cytg111?

LOL. Another US weapon getting benched. Guess these guys will sit next to the Abrams and Switchblade drones.
 

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Heyooooo!

That's a nice little slap to Putin's face Kazakhstan. Astana not only didn't support Putin's invasion, they side with Ukraine.


"The US has acquired 81 obsolete Soviet-era combat aircraft from Kazakhstan, a report from the Kyiv Post says. Kazakhstan, which is upgrading its air fleet, auctioned off 117 Soviet-era fighter and bomber aircraft, including MiG-31 interceptors, MiG-27 fighter bombers, MiG-29 fighters, and Su-24 bombers from the 1970s and 1980s.

The Kyiv Post reported that the declared sale value was one billion Kazakhstani tenge, or $2.26 million, equaling an average value for each plane of $19,300."


Cheaper than a Kia. AFU will make them count.
It's all true!

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You were saying @cytg111?

LOL. Another US weapon getting benched. Guess these guys will sit next to the Abrams and Switchblade drones.
Oh good. You're still here. /s.
Such is the math of theater, it only takes one domino for the rest to unravel. Guess what they're working on now.
 

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Do you read the articles you link to before posting or just the headline?


He also indicated that the U.S. government truncated the usual testing requirements to expedite the weapons system's acquisition. As a result, the weapon was "produced as quickly as possible."

GLSDBs are not currently used by the U.S. military, and Ukraine was the first to test it in combat.

“And what happens is, when you send something to people in the fight of their lives, [and] it doesn't work, they'll try it three times and then they just throw it aside; so that's what happened,” the official concluded.
 

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Do you read the articles you link to before posting or just the headline?


He also indicated that the U.S. government truncated the usual testing requirements to expedite the weapons system's acquisition. As a result, the weapon was "produced as quickly as possible."

GLSDBs are not currently used by the U.S. military, and Ukraine was the first to test it in combat.

“And what happens is, when you send something to people in the fight of their lives, [and] it doesn't work, they'll try it three times and then they just throw it aside; so that's what happened,” the official concluded.

Odds Boeing is already working on M-code GPS receiver modification for SDB-I has to be virtually 100%.
 

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You were saying @cytg111?

LOL. Another US weapon getting benched. Guess these guys will sit next to the Abrams and Switchblade drones.
It's always amusing to hear the ruzzian side.
Anyone looking for a breath of fresh air look up SV Delos.
 
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Do you read the articles you link to before posting or just the headline?


He also indicated that the U.S. government truncated the usual testing requirements to expedite the weapons system's acquisition. As a result, the weapon was "produced as quickly as possible."

GLSDBs are not currently used by the U.S. military, and Ukraine was the first to test it in combat.

“And what happens is, when you send something to people in the fight of their lives, [and] it doesn't work, they'll try it three times and then they just throw it aside; so that's what happened,” the official concluded.


Yeah I read it. Said they couldn’t get passed Russian jammers. Anything else you’d like to add?

BTW, it might be helpful to account for the enemies jamming capabilities before producing said weapon and sending it out to the field. Just saying.
 

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Yeah I read it. Said they couldn’t get passed Russian jammers. Anything else you’d like to add?

BTW, it might be helpful to account for the enemies jamming capabilities before producing said weapon and sending it out to the field. Just saying.

There is no way to really know this without testing or just sending it to the field. SDB-I and Excalibur are younger munitions not really designed to operate in an intense GPS denial environment because there was not really a big call for that where they were to see employment. The Pentagon is very likely to fix this with retrofits some of which have been designed already. Russians get stuff wrong too like the Kinzhal and Zircon that they promised Putin could not be intercepted by any western system...
 
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Soviets rolled hastily put together tanks out of the factory and directly into combat, things were so desperate for awhile. Terminator tanks weren't thoroughly tested and they were sent in, turns out they suck almost as much as an Armata.

Seems to me a Putin fluffer should be aware of history like that, be reluctant to chide others over the necessities and time constraints of war. "Low information hypocrite" seems to be all the rage with these guys though.
 

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Yeah I read it. Said they couldn’t get passed Russian jammers. Anything else you’d like to add?

BTW, it might be helpful to account for the enemies jamming capabilities before producing said weapon and sending it out to the field. Just saying.

Yes, the US used Ukraine to conduct live field tests for the US for a completely new weapon system that hasn't even been deployed to US units. Now the US will use that data from live field tests against Russia to make the weapon system better. The US can thank the Russians for helping make US weapons systems better through field testing.
 
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Excellent 48 minute video by a Russian expat economist, educated in western Russia, N. Calif. and Maine. Good English with Russian accent, the guy's personable, makes sense to me. He's in Tashkent, Uzbekistan right now. I believe he calls his channel "Inside Russia."

Russians Are Disappearing | A Silent Catastrophe Is Hitting Russia Now​


One of the comments, I think is excellent:

@PowhiroMus

6 days ago
Konstatin, thankyou for your informed insights and commentary so let's discuss harsh facts as I see them.

1. Prior to Russia's first invasion of Ukraine in 2014 to militarily seize and occupy all of Crimea and part of the Donbas, Russia had a serious looming demographic crisis, an aging population and a low birthrate. A life expectancy of males among the worst in the World, females not so bad.

2. Russia's invasion in 2014 saw the West respond to punish Russia's illegal aggression breaking various treaties, many Russians decided to leave Russia, likely the best and brightest. I'm not sure of the numbers of permanent exiles versus tourists.

3. Russia's further full-scale invasion in early 2022 intended to conquer all of Ukraine, unseat and replace Ukraine's elected government failed abysmally, mostly through Russian incompetence, a major rout and a windfall for Ukraine in capturing enormous quantities of undamaged, Russia's best heavy military equipment, ammo and supplies. Russian troops fled on foot and a month later, Russia's best, most secret heavy weaponry turns up in the USA to be evaluated. Why didn't the Russians destroy it before running?

4. Yes in the South, aided by occupying Crimea, Russia took most of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson Oblasts, mostly but failed to take Odessa.

5. In the North East, Russia failed to take pro-Russian Kharkiv and were cleared from the Oblast mostly because the people said we are Ukrainian, Russia cannot take our freedom by force!

6. To the current day, Russia is ruined long-term, it has no future. Putin's war to suppress Ukraine's independence, to deny the existence and to genocide the Ukrainian People, culture, language, history and existence is doomed to fail.Firstly the entire World except for a handful of minor countries oppose Russia's illegal, barbaric aggression.Secondly over 100 countries provide Ukraine with financial and humanitarian aid.Thirdly, 55 countries provide military aid towards Ukraine's defence of its Motherland, maybe not the best of Western weaponry and munitions but what they can spare as being old, needing replacement. Russians should be worried if they ever have to face the best of Western weaponry!

7. Obviously Putin's war is the most costly, most expensive in Russia's history, a crippling drain on Russia's economy and future. Russia has been very actively launching mass attacks on well-defended Ukrainian positions increasing short of ammo for many months and has taken an insignificant amount of Ukrainian territory. Ukraine claims basically a toll of 1,000 Russians killed per day, and another 2 or 3 times severely wounded, permanently disabled for life. Basically WW1 trench warfare slaughter.

8. Now that the USA has freed its block on weapons and munitions and wealthy Europe has ramped up its industries producing munitions after decades of "sleeping", the Russian military occupiers of the Ukrainian Motherland are going to be severely punished, as all invaders should be! Many, many more Russian invaders will die or be killed if they remain on Ukrainian soil. There is nothing more dangerous than a patriot defending his family and country!

9. Back to demographics, and life expectancy, Russia ranks 100th in the World but there is a stark difference between men and women, a 10 year gap. Demographically Russia's future is bleak but Putin is making it far, far, far worse. Look at the numbers, at least 300,000 killed, another 700,000 crippled for life and most of these were the best. At least another 1 million permanently leaving Russia, maybe 3 to 5 million of generally Russia's best that won't return.Putin is indicted, subjected to an international arrest warrant if he leaves Russian protection, for the war crime of abducting Ukrainian children from their parents to be re-educated by force as "good Russians".Whatever happens, Ukraine will never again be a friend of Russia, only known as more evil, more barbaric than Hitler's Nazi invaders! A struggle that cost 14 million Ukrainian lives.

10. Industrially, Russia is undeveloped, lacks investment, depends critically on foreign technology, cannot self-produce anything of modern sophistication. Like Russia can still produce big metal battle tanks but without the West's technology, the sophisticated sensors and guidance systems they are dead meat.Russia has permanently lost access to Western sophisticated technology, goods and services, it may gain access to some but basically Russia is stuffed long-term. It will stagnate and decline while the World thrives. China may help a little but it is tenuous, China is heavily dependent on the West, its major market.I could go on but the essentially truth that Putin's regime is living in the past century, the World has moved on and perceived Russian power means nothing if you are opposed by the entire World and the norms of decency, humanity and common respect for everyone.
 
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