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fuzzybabybunny
05-14-2012, 09:06 PM
I have to say that I'm just really really curious:

http://www.scooterdepot.us/moped-scooters-p-1-c-31/250cc-street-legal-motor-bikes-sport-motorcycles-p-744.html

I almost want to buy one just to see just how bad it could possibly be. It looks great, is 250cc, and considering how simple and reliable 250cc bikes are like the Ninja 250, what kinds of things could go catastrophically wrong?

Anyone gotten one of these?

EDIT: There's a community dedicated to these cheapo Chinese bikes:

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?3824-Hello-new-member-riding-the-d250rtc

Thread is over a year old. Closing.

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quakefiend420
05-14-2012, 09:13 PM
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?2738-Dong-Fang-DF-250-RTB-Bobber-Information

Dong Fang?

bwahahaha

Fenixgoon
05-14-2012, 09:29 PM
whats the used market like in hawaii? might want to pick up an older UJM for that much $$

fuzzybabybunny
05-14-2012, 09:37 PM
whats the used market like in hawaii? might want to pick up an older UJM for that much $$

A Universal Japanese motorcycle? What is that exactly?

For $2000 I could get:

1. Used 2007 Ninja 250: http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/mcy/2947137505.html

2. Brand new DongFang DF250: http://www.scooterdepot.us/250cc-street-legal-motor-bikes-sport-motorcycles-p-744.html

It's too bad the Pre-2009 Ninja 250s all look like shit.

See my dilemma?

angry hampster
05-14-2012, 09:53 PM
Why not just got a reliable Japanese bike from the 80s-90s in that price range and call it good?

soccerballtux
05-14-2012, 09:55 PM
A Universal Japanese motorcycle? What is that exactly?

For $2000 I could get:

1. Used 2007 Ninja 250: http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/mcy/2947137505.html

2. Brand new DongFang DF250: http://www.scooterdepot.us/250cc-street-legal-motor-bikes-sport-motorcycles-p-744.html

It's too bad the Pre-2009 Ninja 250s all look like shit.

See my dilemma?

you already bought a 250cc bike a while ago.

Fenixgoon
05-14-2012, 09:57 PM
A Universal Japanese motorcycle? What is that exactly?

For $2000 I could get:

1. Used 2007 Ninja 250: http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/mcy/2947137505.html

2. Brand new DongFang DF250: http://www.scooterdepot.us/250cc-street-legal-motor-bikes-sport-motorcycles-p-744.html

It's too bad the Pre-2009 Ninja 250s all look like shit.

See my dilemma?

UJMs are 1970's-1980's japanese bikes...they all had very similar styling at the time. they are, generally speaking, very well built, very reliable, and with an abundant used parts market if you need anything.

that being said..i'd personally go with the ninja, of your two choices.

fuzzybabybunny
05-14-2012, 10:15 PM
Lol:

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?4383-Are-these-Chinese-bikes-reliable&p=43473#post43473

adlep
05-14-2012, 11:35 PM
Lol:

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?4383-Are-these-Chinese-bikes-reliable&p=43473#post43473

Here is your answer. If you want to learn how to be a motorcycle mechanic for cheap, this is for you. If you want to ride, then you are better off getting a used UJB.

Greenman
05-14-2012, 11:45 PM
Quality is the best value. Those Chinese bikes have none.

grrl
05-15-2012, 08:14 AM
Quality is the best value. Those Chinese bikes have none.

Nothing more needs to be said.

JCH13
05-15-2012, 09:00 AM
Looks like you'll be wasting $2k on a shit bike if you go the chinese route, resell it at a huge loss after putting money into it, and get a Ninja or other Japanese bike later. Skip the hassle of buying a crappy bike in the first place, you're wasting money and time even considering it.

mvbighead
05-15-2012, 09:07 AM
Hell, not to mention that buying a used Ninja or whatever would likely retain most of its resale value, so you could turn around and sell it later if/when you decide to upgrade.

Whereas the other it sounds like you'd lose 1500 just by buying, the Ninja you could probably turn around and flip for exactly what you paid for it.

jagec
05-15-2012, 09:15 AM
Those used Ninjas are absolutely bulletproof. Don't buy a trash bike when you can get something MUCH better for the same price.

vshah
05-15-2012, 09:46 AM
what happened tot he ninja you bought already?

SpatiallyAware
05-15-2012, 10:40 AM
Those chinese knockoff bikes are terrible. I've stopped and help people broken down on them many times... It's amazing how much stuff is made out of cast pot metal. I've seen broken shift linkages, broken handlebar mounts, seat mounts, etc

JulesMaximus
05-15-2012, 12:15 PM
No way would I even consider one of those bikes. There is a Korean knock off of the SV650 which is supposed to be decent. Maybe look at one of those used but this bike I wouldn't touch even if it was free.

Hyosung GT650 is the Korean bike. It has gotten relatively favorable reviews from what I've read. I'm sure you could pick one up used for $2k.

Throckmorton
05-15-2012, 12:52 PM
what happened tot he ninja you bought already?

He got hit by a car

the DRIZZLE
05-15-2012, 12:56 PM
I have no idea why anyone would buy one of these considered the price and availability of low millage used Japanese bikes. All joking aside, I wouldn't trust my life to Chinese quality control.

abaez
05-15-2012, 01:59 PM
"Shifts like a WWII tank" hahahaha

manimal
05-15-2012, 02:32 PM
korean bikes are a big improvement over the china rolling bikes of death. Heard a story of a guy who jumped on the brakes and broke both the pedal and the hand pull at the same time. Imagine the fear...

Fenixgoon
05-15-2012, 03:32 PM
No way would I even consider one of those bikes. There is a Korean knock off of the SV650 which is supposed to be decent. Maybe look at one of those used but this bike I wouldn't touch even if it was free.

Hyosung GT650 is the Korean bike. It has gotten relatively favorable reviews from what I've read. I'm sure you could pick one up used for $2k.

apparently hyosung is very big in the offroad market, which i didn't know.

considering the ninja250 has been the same for god knows how many years (minus its recent update)...i have no idea why you wouldnt buy a highly desirable bike with a massive parts/supply base.

hanoverphist
05-15-2012, 04:51 PM
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?2738-Dong-Fang-DF-250-RTB-Bobber-Information

Dong Fang?

bwahahaha

hehe gotta love the looks of it tho, too bad its only rockin 17 HP.

oh, and there is some assembly required...

grrl
05-15-2012, 05:32 PM
Hyosung GT650 is the Korean bike. It has gotten relatively favorable reviews from what I've read. I'm sure you could pick one up used for $2k.

The Hyosung is a good bike. It would be a better choice though if parts weren't so hard to come by.

soccerballtux
05-15-2012, 05:51 PM
what are some korean bike names?

Bignate603
05-15-2012, 07:16 PM
The Hyosung is a good bike. It would be a better choice though if parts weren't so hard to come by.

That's one thing that would definitely make me pick a Japanese bike over something else. Even if the Chinese bike was decent quality (which it isn't) the parts availability will be much worse.

xaeniac
05-15-2012, 08:12 PM
go japanese;

Childs
05-19-2012, 01:24 AM
How about a Cleveland CycleWerks? I came across this on Youtube, and seems like a decent deal for $3K new. US designed, but assembled in China.

http://www.clevelandcyclewerks.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKnwE1FJBFc&feature=plcp

rumpleforeskin
05-20-2012, 07:35 AM
Anyone gotten one of these?

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I purchased a haonio HN 125-8 (AKA lexmoto vixen)last year for my otherhalf as she was interested in taking up biking too.

Idea was to get a cheap 125 for a year so she can get some experiance then she could get a bike of her liking if she decided she enjoyed it.

bike is on a 57 plate (2007) 1 owner 8000 miles and rusty as hell, cost 300.

Since owning it (only 14 months) I have had to do the following work:
replace chain & both sprockets as the chain had stretched and was jumping teeth
remove side stand switch - caused engine to cut out when raining
Replaced Regulator Rectifier
rewired 75% of the bike due to R&R packing up and putting out over 23v
had the back wheel nut come off when riding and the axle came half out (aaaaarrrr) the swinging arm, now i have a locking nut and split pin there too
rev counter does not work, never has
new front disc, original had warped.

Gonna sell it before the next MOT as the front forks have become very pitted due to corrosion, and will no doubt begin leaking soon.

Oh and everything is covered in rust....

If your anywhere near bedfordshire your welcome to come have a look, may even put the kettle on too.

So my advice is if you buy it new keep it no more than 3 years it will be a bargain. After 3 years expect alot of problems due to bad construction materials.

Hugo Drax
05-20-2012, 09:04 PM
Chungyongdong brand is notorious major engine failure if you take it over 5000 rpm.

motorman_001
08-04-2013, 08:36 AM
I have a Jinlun JL 250-5 that has approximately 3000 miles on it and I LOVE IT!

tortoise
08-04-2013, 09:49 AM
For those considering a 125/150cc scooter, include the Lance PCH 125 (http://lancepowersports.com/models/pch125.html) in your research . . video (http://youtu.be/x0wtbCt2VTw).

If you have the mechanical aptitude to perform preventative maintenance (http://youtu.be/26R9wzXqME4) and troubleshooting, even the typical China GY6 engine (http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/125_150_4-STROKE_PARTS.html) scooters may be an option.

SpatiallyAware
08-04-2013, 11:32 AM
The engines aren't my issue with these things.

It's things like handlebar mounts, shift levers, what happens when one of these break while you're trying to cross traffic?.. When you're on a motorcycle everything needs to be 100%. I've yet to see a chinese bike that looked safe on typical american streets.

mmntech
08-04-2013, 01:57 PM
That's one thing that would definitely make me pick a Japanese bike over something else. Even if the Chinese bike was decent quality (which it isn't) the parts availability will be much worse.

Yep, parts and service.

For their regular price (not the sale) you can get a used Ninja or Honda in that ball park. I'd probably go that route because parts and service will be easy to find, and they're known to be bullet proof.