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QueBert
03-22-2010, 03:22 AM
http://www.sportchalet.com/product/fitness/as+seen+on+tv+products/301330_3043105.do?sortby=priceDescend

I can't find a single review of them online, out of boredom I skimmed over 500 or so reviews of the originals. And mostly everyone seems to love them. The V-2's are only $10 more. But newer doesn't always equal better. I'm curious since the originals are so popular why am I only seeing the V-2's for sale at one place Sports Chalet. I have about $60 left in my new work out budget and thought this might be the best $40 I could spend. Dunno weather to get the V-1 or V-2's though

mchammer187
03-22-2010, 04:11 AM
I have not using V2 but having used the first version I don't really feel you are gaining much using V1 vs a regular pushup. If they were useful to anything other than pushups I could see it but AFAIK they arent.

A pullup bar is far more useful if you don't have one and if you do than PVC parallettes get my vote for 2nd most useful piece of equipment I have. A close 3rd would be rings.

if you have your heart set on a perfect pushups than there is a review of v2:
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/30/quick-hands-on-perfect-pushup-v2/

SociallyChallenged
03-22-2010, 11:35 AM
I can't justify paying money for one of the simplest movements around. Pushups require no equipment. That's part of their beauty. If you want to work all of the muscles, do different versions of pushups - wide stance, close stance, clapping, slow isometric, elbows in, elbows out, on an uneven surface, etc. Like mchammer, I'd think a pullup bar would be a much better investment. Better yet, buy some gymnastics rings and you can do the exact same thing as the perfect pushup, but utilize them for a ton of other movements as well.

brikis98
03-22-2010, 11:49 AM
Better yet, buy some gymnastics rings and you can do the exact same thing as the perfect pushup, but utilize them for a ton of other movements as well.

Awesome advice. Gymnastics rings are worth every penny (http://www.ringtraining.com/shop/elite-rings.html) and FAR more useful/versatile than the perfect push-up.

McWatt
03-22-2010, 11:53 AM
I agree with SA. Doing pushups on your fists is just about the same as the Perfect Pushup. It raised you up another 3" over your palms and lets you sink very deep before your chest hits the floor.

I also agree with MCHammer: get a pullup bar if you want a cheap and effective piece of equipment to help you gain strength at home. The Iron Gym works great as long as you have normal door frames and don't weight well over 200 pounds. I live in a flimsy duplex and the door has had no trouble supporting my body weight (155 currently) plus 60 pounds of weights in my backpack.

Deeko
03-22-2010, 12:13 PM
I like doing pushups with my hands on dumbbells. Same effect as the perfect pushup, and I'd imagine cheaper.

RagingBITCH
03-22-2010, 12:41 PM
I like doing pushups with my hands on dumbbells. Same effect as the perfect pushup, and I'd imagine cheaper.

Dumbbells don't rotate. Perfect pushups aren't about elevation, they're bout the "natural rotation" or whatever crap they spew on their informercials.

Deeko
03-22-2010, 12:43 PM
Yea I know they rotate, its a cute gimmick, but the real advantage is the raised-up effect.

QueBert
03-22-2010, 12:45 PM
I have not using V2 but having used the first version I don't really feel you are gaining much using V1 vs a regular pushup. If they were useful to anything other than pushups I could see it but AFAIK they arent.

A pullup bar is far more useful if you don't have one and if you do than PVC parallettes get my vote for 2nd most useful piece of equipment I have. A close 3rd would be rings.

if you have your heart set on a perfect pushups than there is a review of v2:
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/30/quick-hands-on-perfect-pushup-v2/

My hearts definitely not set here or I wouldn't have posted this thread :) I was just shocked to see close to 500 5 star reviews on Amazon for the originals. I was looking at the pull up bars. I was actually pondering getting both. I wonder why everyone seems to rave about them but nobody in this thread seems to like them lol. I guess I need to measure the door I have access to and see which pull up bar I should get. I still might get the V-2's just because in my mind it looks like rotating my hands while I do a pushup is going to magically make the pushup 100x more effective.

Deeko
03-22-2010, 12:51 PM
I wonder why everyone seems to rave about them but nobody in this thread seems to like them lol.

Simple. A lot of people on ATHF are either well read or well experienced in the world of exercised, whereas Perfect Pushup is a gimmick that, for the average person that thinks a "workout" is pounding out a set of 10 pushups, is effective enough to get good reviews. That doesn't mean there aren't superior alternatives.

SociallyChallenged
03-22-2010, 01:00 PM
My hearts definitely not set here or I wouldn't have posted this thread :) I was just shocked to see close to 500 5 star reviews on Amazon for the originals. I was looking at the pull up bars. I was actually pondering getting both. I wonder why everyone seems to rave about them but nobody in this thread seems to like them lol. I guess I need to measure the door I have access to and see which pull up bar I should get. I still might get the V-2's just because in my mind it looks like rotating my hands while I do a pushup is going to magically make the pushup 100x more effective.

And what is being gauged as effectiveness? Muscle burn? Number of pushups? Strength? Everything the perfect pushup does can be bettered by bench press - strength, endurance, neural coordination. Not everybody has access to a bench, bar, and weights so I understand the benefits of pushups. However, I wouldn't pay money to do pushups :) My vote is still for the rings since they do the same thing, but require more stabilization (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbQyi9xshOU). All you need is a tree branch for those. Also, your arms aren't rotating around a fixed point, like the perfect pushup. With rings, your arms rotate comfortably and as necessary. Plus if you get rings, you essentially get a set up for pullups, dips, push ups, all types of gymnastics work, and way more.

Alone
03-22-2010, 02:30 PM
I don't really get the concept of the "Perfect Pushup" system. My hands don't rotate when I do pushups, so why would I want a device that causes that? Sounds like an imperfect pushup, to be honest.

Deeko
03-22-2010, 02:37 PM
I don't really get the concept of the "Perfect Pushup" system. My hands don't rotate when I do pushups, so why would I want a device that causes that? Sounds like an imperfect pushup, to be honest.

Its like the the pushup variant of twisting your hands on dumbbell press/bench. It became popular because of Arnold - hence its nickname, the Arnold Press. Except it isn't really the same...it doesn't target the same muscles as the Arnold Press, and most people don't really do it right anyway.

M0oG0oGaiPan
03-22-2010, 02:39 PM
have you seen the one where you do a push up and then basically do alternating rows while holding dumbells? looks pretty intense.

QueBert
03-22-2010, 03:11 PM
I ended up buying the Perfect Pushup and the Perfect Pullup combo kit. I figure even if it's not super great it's better than regular pushups. The guy at Sports Chalet said he can only do about half as many with the Perfect Pushup as he can regular ones. Price was good and the Perfect Pullup looks pretty damn sweet. I got a month to try it out and return it. I just couldn't resist *sigh* lol. Now all I want is an exercise bike, anyone have a suggestion for a semi inexpensive one ($170'ish) I don't need anything fancy like a heart rate monitor.

BlackTigers
03-22-2010, 03:41 PM
have you seen the one where you do a push up and then basically do alternating rows while holding dumbells? looks pretty intense.

I saw some guy doing these once, and I laughed, because it looked ridiculous. Until I tried them.

Pushup, row, row, pushup, row, row.

Holy upper body soreness.

SociallyChallenged
03-22-2010, 04:01 PM
I ended up buying the Perfect Pushup and the Perfect Pullup combo kit. I figure even if it's not super great it's better than regular pushups. The guy at Sports Chalet said he can only do about half as many with the Perfect Pushup as he can regular ones. Price was good and the Perfect Pullup looks pretty damn sweet. I got a month to try it out and return it. I just couldn't resist *sigh* lol. Now all I want is an exercise bike, anyone have a suggestion for a semi inexpensive one ($170'ish) I don't need anything fancy like a heart rate monitor.

Well, the problem is that it's not better in any way, shape, or form. It shifts the load onto muscles that aren't typically used in a pushup due to the rotation, but it also decreases loading on certain muscles. It works muscles in a slightly different coordination. Does that make it better? No, it merely makes it a variant of the normal pushup. I think you just wasted your money, man.

QueBert
03-22-2010, 04:05 PM
CHRIST ON A STICK! I know I'm out of shape but these are ffff'in difficult. I can do about 5 regular Pushups, maybe since my form sucks I'm not even doing one haha. But I can't do 1 with the Perfect Pushup. Maybe I need to start low level and do some on my knees until I have some damn upper body strength. I thought I would at least be able to knock out 5 pushups. Since I obviously don't work out I don't know much about how to gauge shit. What kind of goals should I be setting for myself. Don't expect to be able to do 25 by the end of the week. But if I do pushups a few times a day every day what kind of progress should be reasonable for me to expect? I'm going to get these push up resistance bands I saw, supposed to be a good add on once Pushups become easy for you and you want them to have more effect.

Deeko
03-22-2010, 04:06 PM
Well, the problem is that it's not better in any way, shape, or form. It shifts the load onto muscles that aren't typically used in a pushup due to the rotation, but it also decreases loading on certain muscles. It works muscles in a slightly different coordination. Does that make it better? No, it merely makes it a variant of the normal pushup. I think you just wasted your money, man.

I disagree that its in no way better. As I commented above (regarding doing pushups on dumbbells), the rotation issue aside, you are getting a deeper pushup when you have your hands on handles.

BlackTigers
03-22-2010, 04:13 PM
CHRIST ON A STICK! I know I'm out of shape but these are ffff'in difficult. I can do about 5 regular Pushups, maybe since my form sucks I'm not even doing one haha. But I can't do 1 with the Perfect Pushup. Maybe I need to start low level and do some on my knees until I have some damn upper body strength. I thought I would at least be able to knock out 5 pushups. Since I obviously don't work out I don't know much about how to gauge shit. What kind of goals should I be setting for myself. Don't expect to be able to do 25 by the end of the week. But if I do pushups a few times a day every day what kind of progress should be reasonable for me to expect? I'm going to get these push up resistance bands I saw, supposed to be a good add on once Pushups become easy for you and you want them to have more effect.

http://hundredpushups.com/test.html

Start there if you jsut want pushup strength, lol.

If you're looking for something to make your upper body a lot stronger, perfect pullups v2 probably isnt a good start.

SociallyChallenged
03-22-2010, 04:23 PM
I disagree that its in no way better. As I commented above (regarding doing pushups on dumbbells), the rotation issue aside, you are getting a deeper pushup when you have your hands on handles.

If deep pushups are the goal, then both DBs and rings would accomplish that and much, much more. I'm saying there's a low cost to benefit ratio with the perfect pushup. Rings and DBs provide many more possible movements and are much more versatile.

Deeko
03-22-2010, 04:26 PM
Agreed on that. I don't think there's anything wrong with the perfect pushup per se, just that for less money you can get something better (be it rings or DBs).

SociallyChallenged
03-22-2010, 04:45 PM
Agreed on that. I don't think there's anything wrong with the perfect pushup per se, just that for less money you can get something better (be it rings or DBs).

I agree that there's nothing wrong with it. I'm just in the college kid mindset where every dollar counts. Cheers, Deeko.

iluvdeal
03-22-2010, 05:09 PM
I bought a pair of the Perfect Pushup v1 on a whim for $30, they work well. My current workout plan doesn't utilize pushups so I don't use them very much now. If I was on a plan which had me doing a lot of pushups every week, I'd rather do them with a device like this as opposed to doing them on my hands. It's more comfortable on my wrists.

SociallyChallenged
03-22-2010, 05:39 PM
I bought a pair of the Perfect Pushup v1 on a whim for $30, they work well. My current workout plan doesn't utilize pushups so I don't use them very much now. If I was on a plan which had me doing a lot of pushups every week, I'd rather do them with a device like this as opposed to doing them on my hands. It's more comfortable on my wrists.

Doing pushups on your fists will get rid of wrist pain and strengthen your wrists.

QueBert
03-22-2010, 06:14 PM
http://hundredpushups.com/test.html

Start there if you jsut want pushup strength, lol.

If you're looking for something to make your upper body a lot stronger, perfect pullups v2 probably isnt a good start.

This will be part of what I do, some sit ups, some push ups, a bit of lifting some light sparing on my boxing machine and jogging. I'm not out to get huge, just increase my endurance and add some core strength. I actually just wanted the Perfect Pullup bar but they were out of stock and I was too impatient to wait so I bought the kit that has both. I figure if I'm going to do pushups, even if the V-2 isn't worth the $$$ it will be better over regular pushups. I'll probably get the rings people are mentioning on here. V-2 is a good start though.

BTW thanks for the link that's exactly what I was looking for. I'm going to print out the chart and the weekly workouts and see if I can't nail it.