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DomS
08-08-2008, 02:35 PM
here's the 2 cars at the dealers:

Civic (http://coralspringspreownedsuperstore.autofusion.com/inventory/details.php/VIN_2HGES16555H622963/ID_coralspringspreownedsuperstore/UI_detail_new2)

Spectra (http://coralspringspreownedsuperstore.autofusion.com/inventory/details.php/VIN_KNAFE121065246918)


Her grandmother bought a lacrosse so she refused to look at one now. Plus the civic gets much better gas mileage which is important to her.

SAWYER
08-08-2008, 02:38 PM
Seems like an odd choice to narrow it down to.

DomS
08-08-2008, 02:41 PM
yeah I'm not quite sure why she picked those 2

BassBomb
08-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Totally different cars.

Cant reccomend either without figuring out what their goals/wants/needs are.

AstroManLuca
08-08-2008, 03:21 PM
Let's see...

Both are reliable (Buick and Honda are near the top of that JD Power list)
Both have very low miles
Both are good deals
The Honda will be able to seat five in a pinch, but in the Buick they'll be comfortable.
The Honda will get noticeably better gas mileage, but the Buick is a lot more powerful.
The Honda will be great in the city. It's shorter, narrower, and easier to park. The Buick, on the other hand, would be more comfortable on the highway.
The Honda will hold its value better, but it's also more likely to be stolen or vandalized.
The Honda will make you look like a boy racer, but the Buick will make you look like an old person.

They're indeed well balanced. It's just down to what she's looking for.

ElFenix
08-08-2008, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by: DomS
yeah I'm not quite sure WHY she picked those 2

yes you do.

Both are cheap



i'll bet the honda has higher insurance premiums.

ViviTheMage
08-08-2008, 03:42 PM
civ

evident
08-08-2008, 03:48 PM
civic. its got vtec, yo

seriously, depends on whether she wants a reliable econobox w/ great mileage or a bigger roomier car w/ ok mileage but faster

radioouman
08-08-2008, 03:49 PM
I like the Buick. It is a newer generation car, and it is cheaper than the Honda. I'm tall, so the Buick would be a much more comfortable car for me. But is that Civic really cheap? It is a last generation car. It has low miles, but it probably sold for about that price when it was new in 2004-2005. The Buick seems like a much better value.

That Civic already looks old. The Buick still looks current.

BassBomb
08-08-2008, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by: evident
civic. its got vtec, yo

seriously, depends on whether she wants a reliable econobox w/ great mileage or a bigger roomier car w/ ok mileage but faster

Don't think the 2005 LX's had V-tec

f1r3s1d3
08-08-2008, 04:54 PM
1.7 liters of SLOW and BAD. Go with the Buick.

herm0016
08-08-2008, 05:34 PM
the buick is a better car, drives better and still gets decent mileage.

Mermaidman
08-08-2008, 05:38 PM
A 3-yr old Civic for $15K? Might as well buy a new Civic.

Throckmorton
08-08-2008, 05:39 PM
Lacrosse is a car for old people

Auric
08-08-2008, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: DomS
yeah I'm not quite sure WHY she picked those 2

yes you do.

She likes the colour silver!

To be fair, at least it is utilitarian if boring.

CptCrunch
08-08-2008, 07:51 PM
I'd say the buick, the 3.8l v6 that GM builds is bulletproof, can return good mpg (25-31hwy) if you are good with it, will provide alot of power versus the civic, and can hold more people/luggage/general items than the civic. The civic will definitely give great mpg, but will be slow and not as accommodating as the buick in terms of transport of multiple people

Skunkwourk
08-08-2008, 11:45 PM
weird, Im leaning towards the buick. Only 5000 or so miles???

cmf21
08-09-2008, 01:39 AM
Should go with the buick. Lots or room and good gas mileage. My parents have a 2000 lesabre and they average low 30's on the highway which is great for a car that size. It never has had any problems in it's 190,000 miles expect a small oil leak in the rear main seal. Pretty good car / brand if you ask me.

AstroManLuca
08-09-2008, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by: CptCrunch
I'd say the buick, the 3.8l v6 that GM builds is bulletproof, can return good mpg (25-31hwy) if you are good with it, will provide alot of power versus the civic, and can hold more people/luggage/general items than the civic. The civic will definitely give great mpg, but will be slow and not as accommodating as the buick in terms of transport of multiple people

Yeah, the 3.8 V6 really is a great engine. There's a reason they kept it around for several decades.

DomS
08-09-2008, 06:34 PM
Update in OP

spaceman
08-09-2008, 07:01 PM
the kia is less $ but has more mileage.
if she wants to have it be worth more than a hill of beans in a few years the civic is the no brainer.

herm0016
08-09-2008, 08:11 PM
thats.... stupid. only one choice here.. the civic. so.. because her grandmother bought a Buick she won't?

*>kia

KK
08-09-2008, 08:42 PM
I wouldnt pay 16k for a 2005 civic even if it only had 8k miles on it. A new one runs around that price.

sniperruff
08-09-2008, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by: KK
I wouldnt pay 16k for a 2005 civic even if it only had 8k miles on it. A new one runs around that price.

i'd say it costs less than $15k new in 2005, so the car actually appreciated.

i mean, the civic costs as much as THIS (http://coralspringspreownedsuperstore.autofusion.com/inventory/details.php/VIN_JM1FE173740110485/ID_coralspringspreownedsuperstore/UI_detail_new2)?????

this whole "buy a smaller car" thing gets blown way out of proportion.

DomS
08-09-2008, 11:16 PM
she doesn't want a new one because insurance is too much for it.

Arkaign
08-09-2008, 11:19 PM
The Spectra is a very decent little car.

That said, it's damned hard to go wrong with the Honda.

The Spectra will probably be quicker than the Civic. My cheap little Focus owns the non-SI Civics with depressing ease.

Civic = heavier, same hp, lower torque = fail. But they're extremely reliable, decently safe, get great fuel economy, pretty comfortable, good build quality, etc, etc, etc.

hans030390
08-10-2008, 01:12 AM
Civics are probably the best cars around...good price, great gas mileage, look great (well, the '06 and above...anything before is just OK), and above all, probably some of the most reliable cars you'll ever find (I don't hear such great things about Kia).

Ex: My family has had our '95 Civic since it was brand new (passed down from my parents, to older brother, to me). The engine has 125k miles on it, but it's running perfectly. We've never had to do any work on it. We've only done regular maintenance on it and fixed the AC (the console screwed up).

I don't see why you're even asking. I'd say get the Civic, hands down.

CptCrunch
08-10-2008, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by: DomS
she doesn't want a new one because insurance is too much for it.

how so? I know most states require full coverage if you have a lien on the vehicle. Unless she is paying cash for the car, she will need to have full coverage, so buying used vs. new would not affect insurance rates.

Also, civic over the kia any day. But the better value there was the buick due to the price of the civic, which is a bit high.

JulesMaximus
08-10-2008, 11:07 AM
Get the Civic. Kia will have higher depreciation and be far less reliable.

ElFenix
08-10-2008, 12:44 PM
i hope she gets a really good deal on that civic. they're asking nearly 16 grand for a 3.5 year old car whose warranty has expired that only cost 17 grand to begin with. carsdirect is asking just over 18 grand for a brand new civic LX with automatic.

in fact, carsdirect is offering brand new focus SE with automatic for what that dealer is asking for a 3.5 year old civic.

honda pricing is fuggin ridiculous.

Throckmorton
08-10-2008, 01:18 PM
Can't she find a cheaper Civic??

razor2025
08-10-2008, 08:16 PM
$12k for a 2 year old Kia?! I would think you can get a brand new one for $1k more...