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overst33r
05-16-2006, 02:16 PM
2000 corolla, I will be changing my oil this weekend (thanks for the help), now Im also looking to do a tranny drain and refill. Whats a good price, i dont dont want to get ripped off...last time i was at a service center they said it was $70, manual cars should be cheaper than automatics rite?

DainBramaged
05-16-2006, 02:19 PM
$5 for the tranny fluid.

DIY ftw.

BTW: Manual's are not going to be any cheaper.

compnovice
05-16-2006, 02:22 PM
$20-30 I believe....

BoomerD
05-16-2006, 02:22 PM
manual cars should be cheaper than automatics rite?

Nope, gear oil is much more expensive than ATF. Something like $4./pt, compared to $2/ qt. You can probably do the job yourself much cheaper, IF you have the tools and so on. (don't know exact prices, just giving a rough estimate)

iamwiz82
05-16-2006, 02:23 PM
Depends on if you car has a drain plug, and an easy access fill plug.

overst33r
05-16-2006, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by: compnovice
$20-30 I believe....

are there any well known places that have a price like that?

Sukhoi
05-16-2006, 02:37 PM
My dad has known a Toyota mechanic for years, and the guy does great work for us for real cheap on the side. I have a 1995 Corolla and was planning on changing my ATF fluid and filter this summer. The mechanic said he would highly recommend bringing the car into his dealer so he can use this flushing machine they have to completely clean out the transmission. It's gonna be like $100 but he said it's well worth it because it cleans the transmission much better than just doing a drain, filter change, and refill. I'm not sure if it'd be different with a manual trans.

Ramma2
05-16-2006, 02:42 PM
Drop the pan if possible. I've heard of lots of people getting a tranny flush, then the trans failing because the flush mixed up all the metal bits and sediment that sits on the bottom of the pan and sticks it where it shouldn't go.

TitanDiddly
05-16-2006, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by: Ramma2
Drop the pan if possible. I've heard of lots of people getting a tranny flush, then the trans failing because the flush mixed up all the metal bits and sediment that sits on the bottom of the pan and sticks it where it shouldn't go.

Yes, drop the pan.

BoomerD
05-16-2006, 02:47 PM
You folks are getting automatic and manual confused. I've never seen a manual transmission that had any pan you could drop. Automatic, yes, and dropping the pan and changing the filter is good maintenance, but it doesn't apply with a manual....no pan, no filters...

overst33r
05-16-2006, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by: BoomerD

manual cars should be cheaper than automatics rite?

Nope, gear oil is much more expensive than ATF. Something like $4./pt, compared to $2/ qt. You can probably do the job yourself much cheaper, IF you have the tools and so on. (don't know exact prices, just giving a rough estimate)

what fluid should i use? 2000 corolla

Sukhoi
05-16-2006, 04:15 PM
It says on the dipstick.

BTW as stupid as it sounds don't always trust what the dealer tells you. I called a dealer at school here to check the fluid type and amount I needed, and after confirming with someone else I found that the dealer here was completely wrong on both the fluid type and amount.

RCN
05-16-2006, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: BoomerD

manual cars should be cheaper than automatics rite?

Nope, gear oil is much more expensive than ATF. Something like $4./pt, compared to $2/ qt. You can probably do the job yourself much cheaper, IF you have the tools and so on. (don't know exact prices, just giving a rough estimate)

what fluid should i use? 2000 corolla

Redline MTF
2 quarts


or 75-90w gear oil

BoomerD
05-16-2006, 04:22 PM
Your owners manual should tell you what to use. RedLine is actually one of the lesser quality synthetic oils in testing. Mobil1 or Amsoil are MUCH better, but depending on the car, and it's mileage, may not be worth the added expense. A 2000 corolla should probably use something like 75w90, (again, check the manual or dealer) and dino oil is probably sufficient unless the car is driven in extreme conditions. Personally, I'd stick with whatever the shop uses rather than go to the added expense of synthetic...

Sukhoi, there is NO dipstick on a manual transmission...only automatics...

overst33r
05-16-2006, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Your owners manual should tell you what to use. RedLine is actually one of the lesser quality synthetic oils in testing. Mobil1 or Amsoil are MUCH better, but depending on the car, and it's mileage, may not be worth the added expense. A 2000 corolla should probably use something like 75w90, (again, check the manual or dealer) and dino oil is probably sufficient unless the car is driven in extreme conditions. Personally, I'd stick with whatever the shop uses rather than go to the added expense of synthetic...

Sukhoi, there is NO dipstick on a manual transmission...only automatics...


the manual recommends 75w90 1.9 quarts...so 2 bottles should be enough. GL4 or 5, what does that mean?

I guess I will just stop by advance auto parts tomoro and pick up two bottles of 75w90.

Minjin
05-16-2006, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Your owners manual should tell you what to use. RedLine is actually one of the lesser quality synthetic oils in testing. Mobil1 or Amsoil are MUCH better, but depending on the car, and it's mileage, may not be worth the added expense. A 2000 corolla should probably use something like 75w90, (again, check the manual or dealer) and dino oil is probably sufficient unless the car is driven in extreme conditions. Personally, I'd stick with whatever the shop uses rather than go to the added expense of synthetic...

Sukhoi, there is NO dipstick on a manual transmission...only automatics...


Some manual transmissions have dipsticks.

Mark

Nutdotnet
05-16-2006, 04:34 PM
Probably around $50-60....but it would be cheaper and better to DIY...can't be that hard on a Carolla.

RCN
05-16-2006, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by: BoomerD
RedLine is actually one of the lesser quality synthetic oils in testing. Mobil1 or Amsoil are MUCH better,

and what exactly do you base this statement on?

zephyrprime
05-16-2006, 04:41 PM
$70 is a decent price. You can do it yourself but you will not be changing out all the oil on it without a flushing machine.

overst33r
05-16-2006, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
$70 is a decent price. You can do it yourself but you will not be changing out all the oil on it without a flushing machine.

do they use those on manual cars? i though it was just drain and fill...or is there build up on the walls?

I just double checked the price at teh shop and it turns out its $80, i reckon i could save an easy $50

jlee
05-16-2006, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
$70 is a decent price. You can do it yourself but you will not be changing out all the oil on it without a flushing machine.

do they use those on manual cars? i though it was just drain and fill...or is there build up on the walls?

I just double checked the price at teh shop and it turns out its $80, i reckon i could save an easy $50

It cost me about 12 bucks for synthetic (Castrol maybe?) for my MR2 - you should save a bit more than $50. :)

Kelemvor
05-16-2006, 05:05 PM
For a tranny drain make sure you tell them you don't want a flush, you just want it drained and refilled. Sometiems they just assume everyone wants it flushed out and that costs more.

overst33r
05-16-2006, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
For a tranny drain make sure you tell them you don't want a flush, you just want it drained and refilled. Sometiems they just assume everyone wants it flushed out and that costs more.



thats teh thing...i thought only auto trannys need flushing...and manuals just need drain/fill

BoomerD
05-16-2006, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by: RCN

Originally posted by: BoomerD
RedLine is actually one of the lesser quality synthetic oils in testing. Mobil1 or Amsoil are MUCH better,

and what exactly do you base this statement on?


Only finding testing on the motor oils, (and so far, mostly on Amsoil sites) but:
http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/redline.htm
http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/dyno_test.htm
http://www.micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/redline-vs-amsoil.php
http://www.searchforparts.com/important_articles/amsoil_vs_redline.html
http://www.performancemotoroil.com/Redline_test.html

IMO, Red-line is an ok oil, and is probably better than the dino equivalent, but I'd still go with Ansoil or Mobil 1 if I if I was going to change to synthetic.

BoomerD
05-16-2006, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
For a tranny drain make sure you tell them you don't want a flush, you just want it drained and refilled. Sometiems they just assume everyone wants it flushed out and that costs more.



thats teh thing...i thought only auto trannys need flushing...and manuals just need drain/fill

Manual transmission...drain & refill. Most likely, 2 plugs to remove. BTW, ALWAYS remove the fill plug before removing the drain plug, just in case...it sux to have the compartment drained, and no way to refill it...
You want the oil warm to hot, so it carries out any contaminants when it drains. Replace the drain plug, and carefully fil till the oil starts to come out the fill hole. IME, wait a while, because often, it will take a few minutes to work it's way into all the nooks and crannies in the gearbox, and your lwvel will drop slightly...top it off if needed, replace the fill plug, and tighten both plugs to the recommended torque value if appropriate.

boomerang
05-16-2006, 05:46 PM
Reading this, I wonder if most of you can read.

It's a MANUAL transmission!

No pan.
No flush.
No filter.

As was mentioned, the fill plug can sometimes be a bear to get at. Look before you drain it. You may need to get a pump to fill it. That'll mean possibly getting a third quart as you'll have trouble getting it all out of the bottle.

Edit: Listen to BoomerD.

BoomerD
05-16-2006, 05:53 PM
Good point on the bottle pump. I've had one for years, so I never even thought about it...It's pretty difficult to get the bottles into such a position where you can squeeze it into the fill holes. They usually run less than $10., and make the job much easier...

HomeAppraiser
05-16-2006, 06:53 PM
BoomerD for ELITE!

db
05-16-2006, 07:34 PM
Sometimes a piece of plastic hose connected to a funnel works well for accessing hard-to-get-to fill holes. It *will* spill, so be prepared.

RCN
05-16-2006, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: RCN

Originally posted by: BoomerD
RedLine is actually one of the lesser quality synthetic oils in testing. Mobil1 or Amsoil are MUCH better,

and what exactly do you base this statement on?


Only finding testing on the motor oils, (and so far, mostly on Amsoil sites) but:
http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/redline.htm
http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/dyno_test.htm
http://www.micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
http://www.worldsbestoil.ca/redline-vs-amsoil.php
http://www.searchforparts.com/important_articles/amsoil_vs_redline.html
http://www.performancemotoroil.com/Redline_test.html

IMO, Red-line is an ok oil, and is probably better than the dino equivalent, but I'd still go with Ansoil or Mobil 1 if I if I was going to change to synthetic.


Sorry......I'll go with my experience on this one over 10 year old data and Amsoil product literature that doesn't even test the product we are discussing.


I highly recommend Redline........

This is not to say Amsoil or Mobil 1 are bad but that your statement "RedLine is actually one of the lesser quality synthetic oils in testing" is BS.....

Minjin
05-16-2006, 11:27 PM
A bottle pump is handy but can't always be used with every kind of bottle. I recommend an oil syringe.

Mark

compnovice
05-17-2006, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: compnovice
$20-30 I believe....

are there any well known places that have a price like that?

Two mechanics gave me the quote... However, the transmission fluid was mine.. add another $12-15