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bootymac
02-22-2006, 06:48 PM
Recently, a friend and I drove into the USA to pick up a package. My friend dumped the cardboard packaging at a restaurant's dumpster in their parking lot. Next thing I know, he tells me that the owner of a restaurant left a voicemail on his cell phone (He must've traced the packaging back to the receiver, where he got my friend's cell phone number.):


Hey, this is _____ from _____ (restaurant). You can't use my dumpster man. Call me back and we will settle this.

So... All I want to know is that if we'll be in any problems. We both reside in Canada; what effect will that have? We usually get car parts shipped to this small town, since it's cheaper for us to bring the items up ourselves. I have a feeling we're not visiting for a while :o

Edit: My other friend said it's illegal to use other people's dumpsters.

JDrake
02-22-2006, 06:49 PM
I've used others' dumpsters before..

KLin
02-22-2006, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by: bootymac
Recently, a friend and I drove into the USA to pick up a package. My friend dumped the cardboard packaging at a restaurant's dumpster in their parking lot. Next thing I know, he tells me that the owner of a restaurant left a voicemail on his cell phone (He must've traced the packaging back to the receiver, where he got my friend's cell phone number.):

Hey, this is _____ from _____ (restaurant). You can't use my dumpster man. Call me back and we will settle this.

So... All I want to know is that if we'll be in any problems. We both reside in Canada; what effect will that have? We usually get car parts shipped to this small town, since it's cheaper for us to bring the items up ourselves. I have a feeling we're not visiting for a while :o

Edit: My other friend said it's illegal to use other people's dumpsters.

it could be a local ordinance.

Brainonska511
02-22-2006, 06:49 PM
What a dumpster nazi. I wouldn't go through the crap in my dumpster (if I had one) to see who had been putting stuff in it.

BigJ
02-22-2006, 06:50 PM
Don't worry about it. You're out of the country.

But yes, it is illegal to use private dumpsters. Most restaurants or companies pay for these dumpsters, and by dumping your waste in them you take up precious space.

So
02-22-2006, 06:50 PM
Uh...how much trash did you toss? I mean come on, w(hy)th would he care?

Looney
02-22-2006, 06:50 PM
You can't use other's dumpsters. Even in Canada, that's the law.

Gibson486
02-22-2006, 06:50 PM
It is illegal....

waggy
02-22-2006, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by: So
Uh...how much trash did you toss? I mean come on, w(hy)th would he care?

maybe because he is paying for it?

bootymac
02-22-2006, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by: So
Uh...how much trash did you toss? I mean come on, w(hy)th would he care?

Hmm... The box was no more than 2' wide, 3' long, and 1' high, but we flattened it all out before we threw it away.

Whoozyerdaddy
02-22-2006, 06:52 PM
It's pretty simple really... The restaurant pays a fee for the dumpster and pays another fee to have it dumped. Depending on their service agreement they have a regular pick up or they have it picked up when full. Either way, you don't pay anything toward those fees. It might seem like a miniscule amount of trash that you put in but in essence you are stealing from them.

illusion88
02-22-2006, 06:53 PM
I'm fairly sure that in the US you can't be dumping your garbage or recycling into someone elses dumpsters.

So
02-22-2006, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: So
Uh...how much trash did you toss? I mean come on, w(hy)th would he care?

maybe because he is paying for it?

Come on, if it's an empty box that has been flattened out, what was the cost to him? $1 tops?

I mean, surely the owners time is worth more than he'll reasonably recoup hounding this guy.

JDrake
02-22-2006, 06:54 PM
rofl @ 'dumpster nazi'

LordSnailz
02-22-2006, 06:55 PM
just call the guy up and apologize and tell him it won't happen again ... hopefully he just wanted you to call to warn you

BigJ
02-22-2006, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: So
Uh...how much trash did you toss? I mean come on, w(hy)th would he care?

maybe because he is paying for it?

Come on, if it's an empty box that has been flattened out, what was the cost to him? $1 tops?

I mean, surely the owners time is worth more than he'll reasonably recoup hounding this guy.

And how on Earth does the owner know that the OP doesn't do this daily?

He's got to follow up on things.

Demo24
02-22-2006, 06:56 PM
its illegal, but i do it anyway. Next time be more careful and take off evidence pointing to you!

Whoozyerdaddy
02-22-2006, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: So
Uh...how much trash did you toss? I mean come on, w(hy)th would he care?

maybe because he is paying for it?

Come on, if it's an empty box that has been flattened out, what was the cost to him? $1 tops?

I mean, surely the owners time is worth more than he'll reasonably recoup hounding this guy.

From the owner's perspective the OP may just be the ONE out of who knows how many dumpers that he actually caught. So the OP gets all the wrath projected on everyone who used his dumpster.

In situations like this it's not about the money... it's the principle of the thing.

So
02-22-2006, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: So
Uh...how much trash did you toss? I mean come on, w(hy)th would he care?

maybe because he is paying for it?

Come on, if it's an empty box that has been flattened out, what was the cost to him? $1 tops?

I mean, surely the owners time is worth more than he'll reasonably recoup hounding this guy.

And how on Earth does the owner know that the OP doesn't do this daily?

He's got to follow up on things.

Well, assuming that the OP doesn't actually do this daily, and I hadn't seen his name before, then I'd assume that it was one box and move on. Now, if he has a problem with people doing this, and he's trying to track down the repeat offender, then fine -- and we'll assume that the owner will say 'oh, one box? Well, please don't do it again, I have to pay for that.'

mugs
02-22-2006, 06:58 PM
The funny thing is, if restaurant had a trash can you could have put it in there and not had a problem. :)

I really don't think the restaurant owner is going to make a big deal out of it. If you were a chronic dumper, I'm sure he would.

Adica
02-22-2006, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by: bootymac

Originally posted by: So
Uh...how much trash did you toss? I mean come on, w(hy)th would he care?

Hmm... The box was no more than 2' wide, 3' long, and 1' high, but we flattened it all out before we threw it away.

Well it is illegal, and it's a ongoing problem. Even though it was just a small box, he probably was upset because of the principal. It's stealing (space that he paid for, for his trash, not yours!) Just apologize to the man and relax. (you must be nervous if you made a thread about it)

bootymac
02-22-2006, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by: Adica
Well it is illegal, and it's a ongoing problem. Even though it was just a small box, he probably was upset because of the principal. It's stealing (space that he paid for, for his trash, not yours!) Just apologize to the man and relax. (you must be nervous if you made a thread about it)

Haha, yeah. I was just wondering why he would get all worked up over it, but it makes sense. Some people just have more spare time than others I guess. The ironic thing is that we were thinking of just leaving the trash somewhere, but decided to be 'good' :o

I doubt officials will come into Canada trying to arrest my friend though :D

D1gger
02-22-2006, 07:03 PM
The cost to the restaurant owner could be a lot more than you think. Here, if you put trash into a dumpster that should have gone into recycling, you can be charged double the dumping fee on the entire contents of the dumpster. It is not likely, but it could amount to a couple hundred dollars.

Phlargo
02-22-2006, 07:03 PM
if only I could choose a new nickname.. DumpsterNazi FTW!

Brainonska511
02-22-2006, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by: Phlargo
if only I could choose a new nickname.. DumpsterNazi FTW!

Just PM the mods for that one and at least give me some credit if you do lol.

JS80
02-22-2006, 07:05 PM
It's called stealing.

bootymac
02-22-2006, 07:08 PM
Another question. We use a shipping company down there to receive packages. Are they allowed to give out my friend's information to the restaurant owner? I'm assuming it is, since we did do something illegal, but I just want to confirm.

Sphexi
02-22-2006, 07:09 PM
Call the guy and apologize, tell him you're not from the area and didn't want to leave the trash on the side of the road, and didn't know that you weren't allowed to do it. If he wants you to come back and pay, or threatens the cops on you, politely tell him to DIAF and move on with your life, the cops will not follow up on it.

giantpinkbunnyhead
02-22-2006, 07:10 PM
This reminds me of when I managed a Subway restaurant a while ago.

Our restaurant was on the far end of a parking lot dominated by WalMart. In Alaska, WalMart offers up their parking lots to RV's for overnight camping. (Don't ask me WHY tourists like to stake their RV's and lawn chairs on our WalMart parking lots...) What would happen every summer was that these 100's of RV's would see our dumpster as the closest one, and come toss their crap into it. It would literally fill up not 3 hours after it was emptied. Finally I had to put a big sign on it saying "NO RV TRASH". It worked for about a week; then one day I found the dumpster suddenly full again, and a dead porcupine draped over the rim. Dunno where it came from, but it was pretty gross. Finally I had to lock the dumpster. It's sad when you have to lock your trash.

JS80
02-22-2006, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
This reminds me of when I managed a Subway restaurant a while ago.

Our restaurant was on the far end of a parking lot dominated by WalMart. In Alaska, WalMart offers up their parking lots to RV's for overnight camping. (Don't ask me WHY tourists like to stake their RV's and lawn chairs on our WalMart parking lots...) What would happen every summer was that these 100's of RV's would see our dumpster as the closest one, and come toss their crap into it. It would literally fill up not 3 hours after it was emptied. Finally I had to put a big sign on it saying "NO RV TRASH". It worked for about a week; then one day I found the dumpster suddenly full again, and a dead porcupine draped over the rim. Dunno where it came from, but it was pretty gross. Finally I had to lock the dumpster. It's sad when you have to lock your trash.


Wow that sucks ballz.

Brainonska511
02-22-2006, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
This reminds me of when I managed a Subway restaurant a while ago.

Our restaurant was on the far end of a parking lot dominated by WalMart. In Alaska, WalMart offers up their parking lots to RV's for overnight camping. (Don't ask me WHY tourists like to stake their RV's and lawn chairs on our WalMart parking lots...) What would happen every summer was that these 100's of RV's would see our dumpster as the closest one, and come toss their crap into it. It would literally fill up not 3 hours after it was emptied. Finally I had to put a big sign on it saying "NO RV TRASH". It worked for about a week; then one day I found the dumpster suddenly full again, and a dead porcupine draped over the rim. Dunno where it came from, but it was pretty gross. Finally I had to lock the dumpster. It's sad when you have to lock your trash.


You should have put a field of bear traps around the dumpster and watched the RVers try to manuever around them.

mugs
02-22-2006, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by: bootymac
Another question. We use a shipping company down there to receive packages. Are they allowed to give out my friend's information to the restaurant owner? I'm assuming it is, since we did do something illegal, but I just want to confirm.

Probabaly not illegal, but not a good business practice.

Mo0o
02-22-2006, 07:15 PM
It is. People pay for dumpster service and they're not too keen on others dumping their crap and overfilling their dumpsters

bctbct
02-22-2006, 07:19 PM
Everytime we put a construction dumpster out on site, everyone thinks its time to clean out their garage. It costs about $400-500 here to dump 30 yds...so it does add up.

Nutdotnet
02-22-2006, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
This reminds me of when I managed a Subway restaurant a while ago.

Our restaurant was on the far end of a parking lot dominated by WalMart. In Alaska, WalMart offers up their parking lots to RV's for overnight camping. (Don't ask me WHY tourists like to stake their RV's and lawn chairs on our WalMart parking lots...) What would happen every summer was that these 100's of RV's would see our dumpster as the closest one, and come toss their crap into it. It would literally fill up not 3 hours after it was emptied. Finally I had to put a big sign on it saying "NO RV TRASH". It worked for about a week; then one day I found the dumpster suddenly full again, and a dead porcupine draped over the rim. Dunno where it came from, but it was pretty gross. Finally I had to lock the dumpster. It's sad when you have to lock your trash.


Subway on Old Seward?

That would piss me off to high hell...a dead porcupine?!?! haha...

mugs
02-22-2006, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by: bctbct
Everytime we put a construction dumpster out on site, everyone thinks its time to clean out their garage. It costs about $400-500 here to dump 30 yds...so it does add up.

Yup. My dad used to own a convenience store across from a gov't housing project, they all treated his dumpster as their own. And when they remodelled the store and put a construction dumpster out they brought over their couches, etc.

BornStar
02-22-2006, 08:10 PM
I went out to our dumpster one time to throw out a server box and found a 55" widescreen DLP box just chilling in our dumpster. Since we don't have a 55" widescreen DLP I'm guessing it wasn't ours. That pretty much put a damper on my trash removal for the next few days as the dumpster only gets emptied twice a week. Well, I go out there a few days later after I know the dumpster has been emptied and what do I find? Another 55" widescreen DLP box. That pretty well pissed me off.

cwdegood
02-22-2006, 08:37 PM
Oddly enough I ran in to something like this today.
I was going out back to toss some foam inserts out, when I bent over to press it all down my pager fell from my breast pocket pretty far in.

So I spent a few minutes sitting in this dumpster digging around looking for it, next thing I know I have an officer telling me its Illegal to dig through other peoples trash cans/dumpsters/anything of that sort.

I guess he thought I was digging for some goodies or something, anywho .. I told him what happend and he began to tell me that I cant use someone eles trash, so I then had to explain it was my companies, yadda yadda ... really interesting day.

MrDudeMan
02-22-2006, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by: cwdegood
Oddly enough I ran in to something like this today.
I was going out back to toss some foam inserts out, when I bent over to press it all down my pager fell from my breast pocket pretty far in.

So I spent a few minutes sitting in this dumpster digging around looking for it, next thing I know I have an officer telling me its Illegal to dig through other peoples trash cans/dumpsters/anything of that sort.

I guess he thought I was digging for some goodies or something, anywho .. I told him what happend and he began to tell me that I cant use someone eles trash, so I then had to explain it was my companies, yadda yadda ... really interesting day.

did you get your beeper and prove it to him? what an assbag