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Muse
05-20-2008, 12:39 PM
I ordered five CR2025 batteries on ebay for my Canon Optura 20 camcorder, whose CR2025 backup battery died.

Ebay auction page (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180239430580)

I got a letter in the mail with 5 CR2016 cells, not the 5 CR2025 cells I expected. Unless I'm mistaken, these cells have rather different specifications. Even the seller's page doesn't indicate that CR2016 are a replacement for the CR2025 cells. Should I complain to the seller and demand a replacement? The manual for the camcorder says to use only certain manufacturer's CR2025 (including Maxell, which is what the listing specifies) and that "use of other batteries may present a risk of fire or explosion." What would you do?

MikeyIs4Dcats
05-20-2008, 12:41 PM
Obviously they aren't the same, otherwise they'd BE THE SAME.

As to whether they will make it explode, I don't know

0roo0roo
05-20-2008, 12:43 PM
is the thickness really the same?

Baked
05-20-2008, 12:43 PM
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

funkymatt
05-20-2008, 12:44 PM
even the pics and description say CR2025, he sent you the wrong product.

kranky
05-20-2008, 12:44 PM
Found something on Google that said the CR2016 have half the capacity of CR2025. That's why the CR2025 are thicker. I would not accept the deal.

Muse
05-20-2008, 12:46 PM
I just sent the seller this message via Ask the seller a question from the listing page at ebay:

The cells you sent me are not the ones specified in the listing, which are Maxell CR2025. You sent me Maxell CR2016. Even your listing does not assert that CR2016 cells can replace CR2025. My camcorder manual specifically specifies Maxell (and a few other manufacturers') CR2025 and says that "use of other batteries may present a risk of fire or explosion." Please arrange to provide me with the specified auction item.

Muse
05-20-2008, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by: kranky
Found something on Google that said the CR2016 have half the capacity of CR2025. That's why the CR2025 are thicker. I would not accept the deal.

Yes, I found a thread at Candlepower Forums where a guy said that the CR2025 is 170 mah and the CR2016 80 mah.

Muse
05-20-2008, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

PottedMeat
05-20-2008, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

Get him to send you the actual item and forget about it - next time just go to WalMart or something.

ultimatebob
05-20-2008, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

Get them from someone else. This guy is a crook, and you should make sure to leave him negative feedback.

techs
05-20-2008, 12:55 PM
Only pay him half the money. A 5 bill is just the same as 10 dollar bill, right?:confused:

rasczak
05-20-2008, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

Get them from someone else. This guy is a crook, and you should make sure to leave him negative feedback.

agrees. lol he sent you stamps as payment? are stamps a legal form of tender now?

waggy
05-20-2008, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

not much you can do other then get a refund. you really can't force him to ship it.

even though he should. maybe he just made a mistake and sent the wrong item.

alkemyst
05-20-2008, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

For the LAST TIME...shipping costs on ebay have nothing to due with POSTAGE.

Stick to freaking WALMART!

Injury
05-20-2008, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

Get him to send you the actual item and forget about it - next time just go to WalMart or something.



They're like... $2 each at Walmart.

Muse
05-20-2008, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

not much you can do other then get a refund. you really can't force him to ship it.

even though he should. maybe he just made a mistake and sent the wrong item.

Yup, that seems to be the case. He responded to my email this morning:

*sorry for the mistake. i will send you the correct item CR2025 ASAP. regards.*

Of course, I have to wonder if it was really a mistake or he thought I'd accept the cheaper substitute, which may have worked for me although the batteries have roughly half the capacity.

Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

Get him to send you the actual item and forget about it - next time just go to WalMart or something.



They're like... $2 each at Walmart.

Yeah, I figured that B&M I'm going to pay more even with ebay shipping. 5 for $3.50 looks like a good deal. The first one lasted me around 3 years in the camera, although the manual says maybe a year, maybe more (?). I'll keep the spares in the fridge and shouldn't need more for over a decade, assuming I'm still using the camera...

Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

Get them from someone else. This guy is a crook, and you should make sure to leave him negative feedback.

agrees. lol he sent you stamps as payment? are stamps a legal form of tender now?No, the stamps I referred to was the cost of the seller's postage, plus the envelope. I said that just to indicate how much he actually spend sending the thing in terms of monetary cost. The shipping fee was $2.50, the stamps cost him $0.58.

drinkmorejava
05-20-2008, 05:06 PM
Normally, I'd say semantics can come into play over a model number if they do the exact same thing. However, here, the model number itself describes the difference.

2025: 20mm diameter, 2.5mm thickness
2016: 20mm diameter, 1.6mm thickness

0roo0roo
05-20-2008, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

Get him to send you the actual item and forget about it - next time just go to WalMart or something.



They're like... $2 each at Walmart.

~ 1.50 at frys

Muse
05-21-2008, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Baked
They're compatible. Compatible being the key word. CR2025 holds a higher charge than CR2016. 170mAh Vs. 90mAh. So while they both work, CR2025 lasts longer.

Actually, I take it back, CR2016 is not compatible 'cause it's thinner than CR2025. Contact the seller and demand a refund.

Funny thing is the item is $0.99, the shipping costs $2.50. He sent me a letter with $0.58 worth of stamps. I want more than $.99 back, I want the specified CR2025's. What should I do?

Get him to send you the actual item and forget about it - next time just go to WalMart or something.



They're like... $2 each at Walmart.

~ 1.50 at frys

Even at $1.50, 5 of them would cost me $7.50 + tax + the time and cost of going to Fry's. This was not even half the cost. Normally, I get what I expect at ebay, but there are exceptions. Anyway, the guy said he is sending me the right ones. I guess I can turn around and sell the CR2016's on ebay! He didn't ask me to return them.